Platystemon posted:

BNX makes a legit, headstrap N95 in black.

Tulip posted:

^^e I'm best man at both lol

Serf posted:

i had a crown fall out and had to go to the dentist to get it put back in. they were very hostile towards my respirator for some reason. the dentist was like "people are already nervous when they come in here, can you imagine what they'd think if i walked in wearing that?" lmao

so anyways i probably have covid now, rip

Potato Salad posted:

first off, congratulations not only for having friends, but for legitimately being a really good friend

second off, holy poo poo 70 lb is amazing

third off, good luck to you with that second wedding, and I'm glad that the first isn't going to make a stink about you protecting yourself

I'm serious about those BOTNs, by the way. They're also one of the few things you can buy off of Amazon because they come individually wrapped and you can check their lot numbers. If you find Auras to be too small, try an L and XL

kreeningsons posted:

go full prom aesthetic and match your tie, pocket square, and waistcoat to the magenta filters

Kylaer posted:

Put half a bowtie over each one

Bob Socko posted:

Ordered a pack for my mandatory meetings in May, even though I'm supposedly 100% work from home. Looks more stylish than white.

HazCat posted:

I think the debate that starts every time Kylaer posts telling someone to trust their respirator comes down to one thing:

There are two groups in this thread, those who have little covid dissonance and those who have a great deal of covid dissonance.

I'm in the first group (and I suspect Kylaer is as well). I live alone, my work is fine with me wearing my respirator, and I'm not self-conscious about wearing a respirator. I get all my news (covid and otherwise) from these forums, so my only actual exposure to 'covid is over' is second hand and in a specific context that contradicts it. I have a great deal of control over my environment and my personal safety.

I find Kylaer's posts reasonable and reassuring. I trust my respirator, and it means I have found a balance that I think is both safe and sustainable in the long term.

But for people in the second group - people with family members or friends or jobs pressuring them to return to 'normal', people who are in environments where wearing a respirator gets you gawped at (and especially people used to blending in as normal and not used to being singled out in public). People who follow broader news sources, even if it's just tiktok or twitter or other social media. People who are constantly recieving the message, from multiple sources, that they are acting crazy -

For these people, this thread may be the single sole counterbalance to the entire world-gone-mad telling them they're crazy and overreacting. They don't come to this thread wanting to hear 'calm down and just do whatever, it'll be fine' even with the completely correct caveat that they just need to wear their respirator.

They want reassurance that they aren't crazy to still care at all, that they're right to tell their partner that they can't visit friends (because they know that the first few times the respirator will be fine, but eventually there will be a request to 'not wear your weird mask this time, can't you just use an N95 like a normal person?' and then it will be a fight. Or worse, they won't have the energy left to fight, and they'll have so thoroughly normalised visiting friends that not going would be an even worse fight, and so they downgrade their PPE 'just this once'...

There's no real good solution to this, except for people in that second group to consider putting Kylaer on ignore. Not as a rejection of them as a poster, but just a recognition that Kylaer's posts aren't going to be great for them given their circumstances.

And Kylaer, it might be good if you could ease up a little on it. Not everyone who posts in this thread about missing simple pleasures is just playing a martyr. Some of them are drawing an extremely hard line (much harder than 'necessary') because they've got more to their overall maths than just 'keep covid physically out of my lungs in this moment'. They just want people to commiserate with them about how living through a pandemic sucks. If it annoys you to read it, you could probably also just selectively ignore people and not miss out on much actual covid content.

Joementum posted:

Nocturtle posted:

Repeating some of my recent posts and apologies for the length, but summarized recent PASC studies for my own understanding and thought my notes might be of interest here. Would appreciate if people could point to any large scale studies of PASC impacts I missed.

PASC overview
-PASC encompasses a range of conditions that might occur after a COVID infection
-conditions include cardiovascular, neurological and immune disorders
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2021.698169/full
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/19/science/long-covid-causes.html
-several large scale studies and labor force analyses attempt to evaluate PASC rate, severity
-ignoring COVID-related mortality as it’s better understood, effectively reduced with vaccines

PASC rate estimates from major studies
-focus here on PASC rates for mild cases in <65 year olds where possible
-ideally account for vaccination impact, most large completed studies done pre-vaccine

Post-acute symptoms, new onset diagnoses and health problems 6 to 12 months after SARS-CoV-2 infection: a nationwide questionnaire study in the adult Danish population
-large scale study, 152880 participants, evaluated at 6-12 months, pre-vaccine availability
-long-term symptoms maximal for 30-60 year old
-”significant” post-infection symptoms:
-~40% risk of physical exhaustion, 35% risk of mental exhaustion
-~28% chance of memory and concentration issues
-~8% fatigue

Long COVID in a prospective cohort of home-isolated patients
-followed up 312 home-isolated (non-hospitalized) Norwegian patients from the early pandemic
-study found that 52% (32/61) of home-isolated young adults, aged 16–30 years, had symptoms at 6 months
-”significant” post-infection symptoms:
-impaired concentration (13%, 8/61)
-memory problems (11%, 7/61)
-fatigue (21%, 13/61)

Long-term cardiovascular outcomes of COVID-19
-157000 VA patients, predominantly older white males, with contemporary and historical control groups
-study period 2020-2021, pre-vaccine
-4.5% elevated risk of any cardiovascular outcome in entire cohort
-roughly 2.5% elevated risk of any cardiovascular outcome for mild cases

Six-month sequelae of post-vaccination SARS-CoV-2 infection: a retrospective cohort study of 10,024 breakthrough infections
-10024 vaccinated individuals, 9479 matched against unvaccinated controls
-evaluated pre-Omicron
-two doses had no impact on “long-COVID” features, several other disorders
-this study might be more focused on evaluating difference in long-term outcomes between vaccinated vs unvaccinated and not so much the absolute rates
-”significant” post-infection symptom:
-60% outcome of long-COVID (any) by day 150, vaccinated or not (!?!?!?)
-cognitive symptoms 10% at 150 days, vaccinated or not
-fatigue 20% at 150 days, vaccinated or not

Indirect PASC impacts from labor statistics

Is ‘long Covid’ worsening the labor shortage?
-assumes ~100 million workers infected by Oct 2021
-roughly estimates ~1.1 million people out of work due to long COVID at any given time

COVID-19 Likely Resulted in 1.2 Million More Disabled People by the End of 2021
-additional 1.2 million people in the US civilian institutional population with a registered disability in 2021 compared to 2020
-total labor force without disability is down ~2 million since the start of the pandemic
-large increase in workers with disability likely due to PASC, ~1% of infected workers

Summary
-multiple PASC research studies suggests >10% chance of “significant” long-term impact from COVID infection, esp fatigue and cognitive symptoms (estimates vary around 10-20%)
-additional risk of cardiovascular disease after mild infection is ~2.5%
-vaccines did not protect against all PASC conditions (estimates vary between 50% reduction to no effect, depending on the condition)
-vaccine protection has likely not improved with Omicron dominant given lower protection against symptomatic infection
-labor statistics suggest >1% of infected workers either disabled or too sick to continue working at least temporarily
-current overall picture is >1%-10% of COVID infections result in “significant” long term impacts, with large uncertainties in actual rates but these are likely lower bounds

Outstanding Questions/TBD
-is seriosu PASC post-COVID infection a ~1% or a ~10% outcome? PASC and labor statistic studies disagree
-is risk of PASC cumulative with reinfection? Likely yes, given PASC likely arise from factors associated with symptomatic infection
-are reinfections likely? Likely yes, given short vaccine induced neutralizing antibody lifetime and continued viral evolution
-how do PASC risks compare with other common risks? Likely significantly worse for people getting regularly infected (teachers, HCWs, parents with children in school)
-are there long term prospects for improved treatments and reduction of risks? ????

Serf posted:

i had a crown fall out and had to go to the dentist to get it put back in. they were very hostile towards my respirator for some reason. the dentist was like "people are already nervous when they come in here, can you imagine what they'd think if i walked in wearing that?" lmao

so anyways i probably have covid now, rip

Joementum posted:

McCracAttack posted:

That's funny because if my dentist was wearing a respirator I would reassured. Also, if it makes you feel better, I went to a doctor's office where they gave me a hard time for wearing an N95.

Ornery and Hornery posted:

what does this mean

Platystemon posted:

I’m serious about going to an amusement park when cases are lower. I want to ride some rollercoasters.

Go when the park is dead, sit in the front, and wear an N95. The mass of an EHMR is a liability under heavy acceleration.

Iron Crowned posted:

I wonder if they'd let me wear my full face respirator on the coasters.

Ornery and Hornery posted:

what does this mean

Joementum posted:

mastershakeman posted:

jesus christ

etalian posted:

In other cities like DC it pretty much imploded the budget of the mass transit system.

McCracAttack posted:

Yet another example of why the powers that be want to get rid of working from home.

Insanite posted:

release cycle is wrapping up at work.

qa guy who was just out for a while with covid is forgetting conversations we had a week ago.

probably nothing.

Asproigerosis posted:

Actually at any given moment in time there are genuine cancer cells in your body. It's just that they end up getting properly dunked on by your body's apoptosis machine or they kill themselves or just don't do anything and die off. I think a big problem is that everyone envisions infections as some sort of ice nine strange matter poo poo where just a single viron getting in means it's all ogre. That's not how biology works.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

The powers that be would get rid of or privatize public transit in a minute and we'll see the MTA abandoned in our lifetime.

Soap Scum posted:

i know basically nothing about rowers other than "they exist" and my mind is currently blown that "moving them around" is a thing. maybe i'm thinking of a different style of machine, but i feel like the ones i saw looked EXTREMELY heavy and pretty much permanently installed. i can't remember where this was, maybe at the gym at my college or something for their crew team.

anyway, good poo poo, rowing does seem like a good combo of cardio + strength, i'll give some of those things a look. i'll maybe take this derail to the swole thread if i need more, thanks all

Platystemon posted:

BNX makes a legit, headstrap N95 in black.

euphronius posted:

it’s rowing team not crew team. a crew is a team

if you are going to start using a erg pay attention to form a lot that is the most important thing. you want to mimic as much as possible an actual rowing stroke which takes practice as it’s not innate. they are very effective excessive cardio wise on par with swimming . it’s more calories per hour than running.

Serf posted:

i had a crown fall out and had to go to the dentist to get it put back in. they were very hostile towards my respirator for some reason. the dentist was like "people are already nervous when they come in here, can you imagine what they'd think if i walked in wearing that?" lmao

so anyways i probably have covid now, rip

euphronius posted:

rowing is insane. I can’t believe i did it. so much pain

euphronius posted:

rowing is insane. I can’t believe i did it. so much pain