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Sounds more like creeve to me? Or some "khl" sound I am unable to mimic.
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OwlFancier posted:I assume the same reason everyone started spelling it kyiv, because that's probably closer to the correct pronunciation and suddenly everyone is very keen to be performatively supportive about things they didn't give a poo poo about last month. I don't see anyone tripping over themselves to start calling Bangkok 'Krung Thep Maha Nakhon'
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Mar 8, 2022 19:05
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I'm a bit too full to eat my Chicken Київ after snacking all day on मुंबई mix
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Mar 8, 2022 19:16
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wwuwuruhg noow is not the tiiiiime for a tutuliturian russhia
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Mar 8, 2022 19:27
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Mega Comrade posted:I don't see anyone tripping over themselves to start calling Bangkok 'Krung Thep Maha Nakhon' Well, yeah, that's why I'm a bit cynical about it. I doubt the journos really care it just seems like middle class highly selective performativity.
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Mar 8, 2022 19:31
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Mega Comrade posted:I don't see anyone tripping over themselves to start calling Bangkok 'Krung Thep Maha Nakhon' Cmon you gotta at least go whole hog if you're gonna do that. Krungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit.
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Overminty posted:Cmon you gotta at least go whole hog if you're gonna do that. Only the posh Thai call it that.
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Actually it's Londonkrungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit.
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Mar 8, 2022 19:50
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I was under the impression - and this is obviously third-hand information - the specific issue was that the original English-language name was actually based on and/or more similar to the Russian-language name than the Ukrainian one. Which isn't ideal. Like maybe it is self-congratulatory navel-gazing but it's not like changing it is very onerous so
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I view it as similar to saying Ukraine, not the Ukraine. Just because commentariat twats are doing it, doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do. I find it very hard to get out of WW2 Eastern front mode when reading place names though...
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https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1501268054486831109 sigh
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Sloth Life posted:Sounds more like creeve to me? Or some "khl" sound I am unable to mimic. Sounded like kre-yeev to my ears. 
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I was under the impression - and this is obviously third-hand information - the specific issue was that the original English-language name was actually based on and/or more similar to the Russian-language name than the Ukrainian one. Which isn't ideal. That's why it comes up so often in anticolonial contexts. (But also why e.g. Fanon would say that postcolonial nationalist leaders prefer dicking around with city names than they do actually addressing the more abstract forms of economics or power, but nonetheless it's not an idea without any power during times of struggle.) mrpwase posted:I view it as similar to saying Ukraine, not the Ukraine. Dmitry Utkin: No, that's German for 'The Ukraine The'.
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Mar 8, 2022 20:19
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I would probably be less cynical if they weren't writing style guides while also pushing refugees back into the channel tbh.
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That guy is a Russian nazi not a Ukrainian one for anyone who doesn't know.
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Yeah he's one of the ones who thinks that the Ukraine is just a region of Russia being wrong on purpose. Also apparently sent to 'denazify' it. OwlFancier posted:I would probably be less cynical if they weren't writing style guides while also pushing refugees back into the channel tbh.
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People discover a thing they are doing is problematic. And stop doing it. loving performative bastards. I will never do the right thing.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:People discover a thing they are doing is problematic. And stop doing it. We know.
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This all reminds me of every fucker on the BBC insisting on pronouncing chorizo as 'tho-ree-tho' and, like, I get it, but we're not in Valencia and no one is popping into 'prey-a-mange' for a sandwich, why that word specifically???
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I pronounce every word 100% authentically, it's very respectful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKGoVefhtMQ
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Mar 8, 2022 22:01
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A prey in a manger, prince andrew's christmas number 1.
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Tbf I get a little annoyed when people call Edinburgh 'EDINBORO' or 'EDINBURG'. Get it right for heavens sake! (It's obviously pronounced "London of the north")
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It's pronounced Glass Cow.
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Tbf Edin-brah is the odd one out when it comes to -burgh place name pronunciations in the UK.
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ThomasPaine posted:Tbf Edin-brah is the odd one out when it comes to -burgh place name pronunciations in the UK. Musselburgh?
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Luff-bra
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Is that not more -burra than -brah, or have I just been pronouncing Edinburgh like a dickhead my whole life?
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ThomasPaine posted:Tbf Edin-brah is the odd one out when it comes to -burgh place name pronunciations in the UK. Middlesbrough is literally spelled that way and people sometimes spell it wrong because they think it's supposed to be borough. Also it is called "the boro" to annoy foreigners. Also I think the only two places I've been with something like that suffix are boro and edinburgh and I pronounce both the same way. And I shall do the same thing if evver a vizzit the burruh uv towwer amlets. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Mar 8, 2022 |
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ThomasPaine posted:This all reminds me of every fucker on the BBC insisting on pronouncing chorizo as 'tho-ree-tho' and, like, I get it, but we're not in Valencia and no one is popping into 'prey-a-mange' for a sandwich, why that word specifically??? But you would pronounce the "T" because it's followed by a vowel, and you pronounce the "-er" as "ay" at the end of an infinitive, so I'd say "Pret-A-Mon-zhay" in both French and English. My French is quite poo poo tho
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I am extremely painfully monolingual and it shows
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I guess calling it anything more than "Pret" might mark you out as a knob tho
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Mar 8, 2022 22:40
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Learn german if you want a second one, much better than french IMO, cos I literally cannot make french noises. Also if you go back far enough english turns into german so it's like cheating.
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Wait, I say Edin-burra and I live here! wtf have I been saying it wrong my whole life? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbM7aPA6O6U No way man, I don't recognise this. edit: If you click the sound icon at the start of the wiki page the guy there says it like how I say it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh Shyrka fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 8, 2022 |
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German is a cool language
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Honestly if they could take out the genders and irregular nouns german would be the best language IMO. Which I guess is just anglish.
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https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1501218315477434374?s=19 The Press keeps finding Nazis to interview.
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Why would you assume they are nazis, they could just be big fans of Altered Beast.
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