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T-Paine: Dec 12, 2007; Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

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how do those of you back in the office eat and drink with your masks on? what�s the technique? how do you do it with an office full of mask less mongs?

You're already dead.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:07

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# ? May 24, 2024 06:07

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

Platystemon posted:

�Vaccinated? Me? Oh no. You must be thinking of someone else.�

Among the many stupid things of the last two years has been the general assumption by policy makers that vaccinated people got vaccinated "to go back to normal" rather than to reduce their risks during a pandemic and not even include as an option the idea that maybe not every vaccinated person wants to respond to being vaccinated by immediately increasing their exposure by 20x.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:07

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

Cases start going down, bam, no masks. Instead of using NPIs this low period to really knock cases down even further and increase the amount of time before the next wave we just get rid of them instead.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:08

Jokerpilled Drudge: Jan 27, 2010; by Pragmatica

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:09

wash bucket: Feb 21, 2006

Thoguh posted:

Among the many stupid things of the last two years has been the general assumption by policy makers that vaccinated people got vaccinated "to go back to normal" rather than to reduce their risks during a pandemic and not even include as an option the idea that maybe not every vaccinated person wants to respond to being vaccinated by immediately increasing their exposure by 20x.

In my experience that's actually a pretty safe assumption. When people started finding out vaccinated people could still catch COVID their reaction was usually: "Well then what was the point of getting vaccinated?"

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:16

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

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how do those of you back in the office eat and drink with your masks on? what�s the technique? how do you do it with an office full of mask less mongs?

I noped out of my office this week because they went fully mask off last Friday (Thanks CDC). But I had just been doing any mask off stuff in a room that nobody else had been in for a while rather than any communal area. It's not perfect but it's a much better solution than sitting in a crowded cube mask off for an hour while nursing a cup of coffee.

Not looking forward to having to go back to the office at some point later this week or next at least part time.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:16

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

McCracAttack posted:

In my experience that's actually a pretty safe assumption. When people started finding out vaccinated people could still catch COVID their reaction was usually: "Well then what was the point of getting vaccinated?"

It's a safe assumption that a lot of people getting vaccinated did it "to get back to normal" but it is a very bad assumption to think that's the only reason anyone did so.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:17

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

McCracAttack posted:

In my experience that's actually a pretty safe assumption. When people started finding out vaccinated people could still catch COVID their reaction was usually: "Well then what was the point of getting vaccinated?"

whether or not people think that is partly a function of all the messaging that's gone before

when people get vaccinated here in the PH, you get briefed during the 15-minute post-vaxx monitoring wait that the vaccine simply reduces the odds of severe outcomes, and that you can still catch COVID, so you should still wear your mask and socially distance

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:19

Phigs: Jan 23, 2019

Time to get into intermittent fasting and quit coffee!

Not even really joking. It is actually a really good solution and you get used to it much more than you'd think if you've never done it. But I know it's not something everyone wants to do. Still, it's an option.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:21

wash bucket: Feb 21, 2006

gradenko_2000 posted:

whether or not people think that is partly a function of all the messaging that's gone before

when people get vaccinated here in the PH, you get briefed during the 15-minute post-vaxx monitoring wait that the vaccine simply reduces the odds of severe outcomes, and that you can still catch COVID, so you should still wear your mask and socially distance

Yeah, for some reason they never mentioned that part here in the US where the vaccines were our one and only long term solution to the pandemic.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:24

bad boys for life: Jun 6, 2003; by sebmojo

Phigs posted:

Time to get into intermittent fasting and quit coffee!

Not even really joking. It is actually a really good solution and you get used to it much more than you'd think if you've never done it. But I know it's not something everyone wants to do. Still, it's an option.

I try intermittent fapping and coffee too

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:25

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Thoguh posted:

It's a safe assumption that a lot of people getting vaccinated did it "to get back to normal" but it is a very bad assumption to think that's the only reason anyone did so.

Anyone who got their first dose before March eighth, 2021 obviously wasn�t motivated by some mythical �return to normal�, because prior to that date, getting vaccinated wasn�t supposed to change your behavior at all.

e: lol O.K. glad I read that document

quote:

�We know that people want to get vaccinated so they can get back to doing the things they enjoy with the people they love,� said CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH.

This is what CDC director actually believes. :ducksiren:

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Mar 9, 2022

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:26

Gio: Jun 20, 2005

age and vaccination status have a pretty strong positive correlation, meaning ppl definitely were getting vaccinated bc they were afraid of the virus. no one wants to outwardly admit that tho and will instead say they did it to protect others.

its awesome that the dividing line in the pandemic is �how worried are you that you�ll look like a pussy if you take personal precautions?�

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:29

SplitSoul: Dec 31, 2000

Infinite

at Tegnell getting a job with the WHO.

Anyway, been out of the loop for a while, any cool new variants that make your skin slough off or something?

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:31

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

I am prepared to admit that I got the vaccine to protect myself, because getting it to protect others would be pretty loving stupid.

At the time I got the shot, there was zero hard evidence that the vaccine did anything to reduce transmission. And while we did later get observations that there was some effect, it has never been as strong as the personal protective effect.

�Herd immunity� has been a dead letter for over a year at this point.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:32

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

McCracAttack posted:

I go sit in my car for "smoke breaks" at 10am and 3pm. I also leave for lunch. The mask doesn't come off inside the office. Ever.

Although I'm lucky enough that there's an old fishing lake behind my building, so I eat my lunch out there when the weather is nice.

EDIT:
I should also add that I do eat a large breakfast and drink lots of fluids before I head off to work to keep myself from getting thirsty or hangry before noon.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:34

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

SplitSoul posted:

Infinite at Tegnell getting a job with the WHO.

Anyway, been out of the loop for a while, any cool new variants that make your skin slough off or something?

For now, Denmark is already living the dream.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:35

Serf: May 5, 2011

Phigs posted:

Time to get into intermittent fasting and quit coffee!

Not even really joking. It is actually a really good solution and you get used to it much more than you'd think if you've never done it. But I know it's not something everyone wants to do. Still, it's an option.

i don't really drink coffee, but i do 48 hour fasts now and it isn't that bad. being in the office with a mask on all day certainly helps even on days when i'm not fasting. i just don't eat breakfast, head to the office and don't eat until 6pm. the only time i do eat breakfast is literally when i'm breaking my fast on the day after, but i'll just have something light like celery or carrots

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:37

Gio: Jun 20, 2005

thats why �protect others� is in every PSA, so you can absolve yourself from being a pussy and say others pressured you into doing it.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:39

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/09/health/pfizer-paxlovid-pediatric-trial/index.html posted:

Pfizer begins Phase 2 and 3 trial of Covid-19 antiviral Paxlovid in children ages 6 to 17

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:41

Nocturtle: Mar 17, 2007

Gio posted:

age and vaccination status have a pretty strong positive correlation, meaning ppl definitely were getting vaccinated bc they were afraid of the virus. no one wants to outwardly admit that tho and will instead say they did it to protect others.

its awesome that the dividing line in the pandemic is �how worried are you that you�ll look like a pussy if you take personal precautions?�

One weird piece of data from the recent HK wave was the very low elderly vaccination rate. The US and west overall have had a very poor pandemic response, but one thing done sort of well was getting old people vaccinated at a relatively high rate. This could be interpreted as western elderly knowing they were in real peril as society wasn't going to make any extra effort to protect them, so of course they got their shots the moment they were available. I don't know all the factors that went into then low elderly HK vaccination rate, but maybe they felt they were safer given the low case rates and didn't feel the need to get vaccinated so urgently. They didn't have the fear!

edit : would also help explain the abysmal pediatric vaccination rates here.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:42

blue squares: Sep 28, 2007

I have a camping chair in the back of my car. I park on the roof of the parking garage or in the shade underneath the roof of the top floor, which only covers half the next-highest floor, so I still get fresh air without being directly in the sun

I sit in my camping chair and eat and read, using the open hatchback as a table. even without Covid, it�s far more pleasant than sitting in a corporate break room

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:43

Tulip: Jun 3, 2008; yeah thats pretty good

Phigs posted:

Time to get into intermittent fasting and quit coffee!

Not even really joking. It is actually a really good solution and you get used to it much more than you'd think if you've never done it. But I know it's not something everyone wants to do. Still, it's an option.

Yeah I started intermittent fasting before RTO because diabetes runs in the family and it was an easy way to help with calorie restriction and turns out it also makes getting through the work day a lot more tolerable! And now I'm WFH so.

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

lol

Cheesus posted:

I gasped when I saw the photo of angle grinding using ones feet as a vice. Holy poo poo.

I don't want to know how they "use" a table saw.

All par the course for us idiot Americans.

I read the /r/OSHA subreddit and even I was loving impressed by that thread.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:43

NeonPunk: Dec 21, 2020

SplitSoul posted:

Infinite at Tegnell getting a job with the WHO.

Anyway, been out of the loop for a while, any cool new variants that make your skin slough off or something?

Well, there is BA.2 with this strange spike mutation in Hong Kong that has been killing far more people than expected...

The good news is that they already found BA.2 with the newest spike in other countries, including the US!

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:48

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/mar/09/covid-19-risk-economic-hardship-poverty-study-suggests posted:

Having Covid-19 linked to risk of economic hardship, study suggests
Exclusive: Research finds that disease is associated with 39% rise in odds of people in UK having inadequate income for basic needs

People living in the UK�s most deprived areas are more likely to be infected with Covid-19, but new research suggests this relationship is a two-way street: becoming infected also increases people�s risk of economic hardship, particularly if they develop long Covid.

�We�ve shown that Covid has an impact on people�s ability to meet their basic household requirements � something that is only going to be exacerbated by the cost of living crisis which is happening at the same time,� said Adrian Martineau, a professor of respiratory infection and immunity at Queen Mary University of London (QMUL), who supervised the research.

The findings have boosted calls for ministers to do more to support the growing number of working-age adults affected by the condition, which is also known as post-acute Covid syndrome (Pacs).

�Many long-haulers have lost their jobs, and in some instances their partners have Pacs, so two salaries have been lost,� said Louise Barnes, founder of the PACS19 support group. �Whilst many have been able to get PIP [personal independence] payments, some haven�t, and are no longer being supported by their employers. They are facing a financial nightmare and need financial support.�

According to the Office for National Statistics, about 1.3 million people, or 2% of the UK population, are living with long Covid. Those between 35 and 69 years of age are at greatest risk, and experts have expressed concerns about the impact of so many working-age people suffering from long-term symptoms and disability.

To investigate the economic consequences of the illness, Martineau and colleagues analysed data from 16,910 Britons aged 16 years or over who completed monthly questionnaires about their health and household income between May 2020 and October 2021.

The study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, found that testing positive for Covid was associated with a 39% increase in the odds of people reporting inadequate income to meet their basic needs, and a fivefold increase in the number of people reporting long-term term sickness absence from work, compared with those who didn�t become infected.

The associations were strongest where catching Covid led to hospitalisation or the development of persistent symptoms, supporting the idea that Covid was the cause of people�s financial hardship.
(..)

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:48

Sunny Side Up: Jun 22, 2004; Mayoist Third Condimentist

Kylaer posted:

Look on the bright side. If I'm right, we get a few months of covid being over*. If I'm wrong, we get tremendous content

BNO reports 7-day case and death averages continuing to decline, for whatever that is worth.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1501361165242449921

*Not actually over. Respirator stays on.

honestly i'm morbidly fascinated by the upcoming collision of the Invented Reality and material reality.

it's like a case study in the application of dialectical materialism

i had a dream last night that all these birds were immobile above my head and it made no sense, and then someone I know also got trapped and i realized that the fourth spatial dimension was our material metabolic relationship with nature & each other and that we're stretching the threads that maintain that relationship as it exists and also that keep it invisible

that's what i get for reading "Karl Marx's Ecosocialism" right before bed lmao

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:49

SplitSoul: Dec 31, 2000

Pingui posted:

For now, Denmark is already living the dream.

Cool, cool, noticed a lot of people are dying with COVID for some reason.

I've had to assure maskless delivery guys I'm not infected multiple times in the last few weeks when I've answered the door wearing a mask. :psyduck:

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:49

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Pingui posted:

For now, Denmark is already living the dream.

yeah i heard they decided some refugees get to keep their jewelry , but others dont for some reason

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:50

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

fits my needs posted:

yeah i heard they decided some refugees get to keep their jewelry , but others dont for some reason

Your dream is pretty racist/xenophobic/bigoted imho.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:54

Sunny Side Up: Jun 22, 2004; Mayoist Third Condimentist

Nocturtle posted:

Don't think anyone mentioned the Flomask yet, it's a little pricey but seals well and fits my 7 and 3 year olds better than anything else. Esp with the halo headgear. It claims to be N95 equivalent too.

2 year olds are tricky though, not many "real" masks for that age.

flo mask is loving awesome. my kid turned 2 yesterday and just in the last month (condensation ring absolutely necessary) has been able to wear it. total game changer. we're still keeping distanced, but for example can stay on the playground if there's another kid there as long as they keep away.

we did the zoo for his bday yesterday and yes there were two close encounters (during which he was in his wholly plastic stroller bubble + masked) but we otherwise kept 20ft+ from any people (it was pretty empty anyway). if there had been too many people or any concerns we would have just called it---not worth the risk.

for our mental health we're trying to walk this line like someone posted about Kylaer's posts between "new normal (resp crew solidarity)" + "we're not the crazy ones (despite societal gaslighting)." have done curbside-everything this whole pandemic, just started doing takeout (in respirator) in the last month. planning more things like this zoo trip.

We're looking at masked + outdoor mommy & me preschool for Fall so my wife can be present to make sure the kid stays masked + does distanced snack, etc.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 13:56

Dren: Jan 5, 2001; Pillbug

Iron Crowned posted:

I'm going to Maryland next weekend

The case rate in maryland is pretty low my dude. I don�t think the pillowpants index is a good capture of current risk conditions. I don�t think it�s even clear what it�s meant to be forecasting. Only trust your respirator but most of maryland is in moderate spread by the old cdc metrics.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:06

kreeningsons: Jan 2, 2007

Tzen posted:

lol it's loving insane esp this bit
https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1500959513599361024
even the dudes there are on some what the gently caress man vibes

pallet wood is fuckin gross and it should stay in the garbage. keep that poo poo out of your home and especially away from your food or children.

besides the fact that those things are filthy from repeatedly being dragged on the dirtiest floors imaginable and many are treated with pesticides, they're similar to shipping containers in that you never know if it was used as cribbing for literal rat poison in the past.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:09

Greg Legg: Oct 6, 2004

Nocturtle posted:

Don't think anyone mentioned the Flomask yet, it's a little pricey but seals well and fits my 7 and 3 year olds better than anything else. Esp with the halo headgear. It claims to be N95 equivalent too.

2 year olds are tricky though, not many "real" masks for that age.

How heavy is it? The 4 year has no problem wearing kn95s to preschool. I'm hesitant about the flo mask because if it's too heavy he won't wear it.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:09

Bathtub Cheese: Jun 15, 2008; I lust for Chinese world conquest. The truth does not matter before the supremacy of Dear Leader Xi.

Pingui posted:

Some rather Mild wording about a humanitarian catastrophe in that article

# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:09

Nocturtle: Mar 17, 2007

Sunny Side Up posted:

flo mask is loving awesome. my kid turned 2 yesterday and just in the last month (condensation ring absolutely necessary) has been able to wear it. total game changer. we're still keeping distanced, but for example can stay on the playground if there's another kid there as long as they keep away.

we did the zoo for his bday yesterday and yes there were two close encounters (during which he was in his wholly plastic stroller bubble + masked) but we otherwise kept 20ft+ from any people (it was pretty empty anyway). if there had been too many people or any concerns we would have just called it---not worth the risk.

for our mental health we're trying to walk this line like someone posted about Kylaer's posts between "new normal (resp crew solidarity)" + "we're not the crazy ones (despite societal gaslighting)." have done curbside-everything this whole pandemic, just started doing takeout (in respirator) in the last month. planning more things like this zoo trip.

We're looking at masked + outdoor mommy & me preschool for Fall so my wife can be present to make sure the kid stays masked + does distanced snack, etc.

Very much the same experience. I've spent so much time being the crazy parent constantly telling my kids to keep their distance on the playground and it's draining, and having actually robust masks with actual sealing ability has really helped make everything more pleasant.

That outdoor+masked preschool option sounds amazing.

Greg Legg posted:

How heavy is it? The 4 year has no problem wearing kn95s to preschool. I'm hesitant about the flo mask because if it's too heavy he won't wear it.

I'd say it's fairly light, and the halo headgear seem to distribute the weight well once the kid is used to it. My 3 year old tolerated it better than the KN95s, or any of the myriad pediatric masks we tried. If it were scaled up to adult size your average elastometric wearer itt would likely find it flimsy and question it's effectiveness. However IMO it's the best option for children, and the Twitter mask guy seems to think it's legitimate:
https://twitter.com/masknerd/status/1436752725660913666?lang=en

One issue though, the halo headgear can be a little more challenging for a young kid to put on themselves compared to earloop masks. I suspect a 4 year old could handle it if they were inclined.

# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:27

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

Coworker that spent a week on oxygen due to COVID, is "out sick" today :cb:

# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:30

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:30

Cabbages and VHS: Aug 25, 2004; Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.