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It's been 17 years since Shadow of the Colossus and the first Chronicles of Narnia game came out, and 10 years since Dragon's Dogma released, in which you the player could climb on large monsters and actually fight them sensibly. It's 2022. The latest big budget AAA fantasy RPG release (and the biggest one since TW3 which was 7 years ago)... still has you slashing at a dragon's ankles like you're playing a tab-target MMO.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:00 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 21:56 |
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I have to admit that Hoarfrost Stomp is incredibly funny, me and the mimic just used it to beat the final 3 bosses and then Malenia after without dying once.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:03 |
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Moofia Boss Val posted:It's 2022. The latest big budget AAA fantasy RPG release (and the biggest one since TW3 which was 7 years ago)... still has you slashing at a dragon's ankles like you're playing a tab-target MMO. I think that is more a matter of the generous accessibiltiy features of Elden Ring. The damage bonus for hitting the head is still here the same way it was in DS3, as are the punishing moves for being under/behind (albeit gentler here). It is a bit of a bummer, because I would have preferred the dragon fights if you were forced to hit the dome, not just got a bonus for it.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:06 |
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blue squares posted:I can't beat Radahn and its making me want to quit the game. I was also stuck until I respecced to cast Rotten Breath, (a dragon communion spell that causes scarlet rot). He's super vulnerable to rot, so you pretty just need to hit him with it once in each phase while otherwise riding around to resummon your guys and avoid his BS. The other option is is to get good, but gently caress that.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:07 |
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Artelier posted:i just did that fight first try (but i am pretty high level, and with mimic ash) , are you using the weapon that they give you in the arena? it is hilarious and the weapon out ranges most of his attacks when i used it so i just stood like half an arena away spamming r2 - i also has high poise and health and running 13 health potions so i could just trade hits sometimes and briefly back off to heal Yes, I'm using it, I'm level 102 and also with mimic, but I just can't get it done. The homing skulls in the 2nd phase get me every time. I've also tried a strategy someone said to just get as close to him as possible, both phases, and it works well in the 1st, but like I said, the skulls will just get me usually in the 2nd and especially if I get hit with something first. If I can't get it down I'll try to range him again.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:09 |
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They must pick a theme for all the creepy poo poo in these games. Bloodborne it was eyes, now all the weird hand and finger poo poo.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:10 |
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Moofia Boss Val posted:It's been 17 years since Shadow of the Colossus and the first Chronicles of Narnia game came out, and 10 years since Dragon's Dogma released, in which you the player could climb on large monsters and actually fight them sensibly. Elden Ring did a good job of bringing some of that Sekiro verticality into the Souls formula now We need even more.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:11 |
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JBP posted:Fire giant kind of sucks. I see how to do it but I keep getting owned at random ah well. The last two times I tried to kill him, he oneshooted me while I was walking from the entrance, from two miles afar. I would not approch it again until I have a fat stack of vit so I can survive these rear end in a top hat oneshooters. This is the part of the game where every boss will start doing giant AOE oneshooters
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Tosk posted:I'm about 7 hours in and have mostly cleared out Limgrave, advanced the NPC storylines there, met Gurranq and farmed the little dudes around his temple a bit and am now heading into the Weeping Peninsula. I want to go Dex/Int and started samurai and am loving my uchigatana, but I haven't found a staff or catalyst yet (and I don't think the mage vendor I found in her ruins sells one?), anyone want to point me towards one? Caelid has the best staff in the game short of like a +20 staff. If you did everything in Limgrave, you’ve been to Caelid.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:11 |
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The problem with being able to mount a big monster is that then you’ll want to ride the big monster around as your pal then you’re obviously going to want a big flying dragon mount and then you’ll want underwater and aerial monster combat. Before you know it you’re playing Monster Hunter Stories Souls
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:13 |
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Tosk posted:I'm about 7 hours in and have mostly cleared out Limgrave, advanced the NPC storylines there, met Gurranq and farmed the little dudes around his temple a bit and am now heading into the Weeping Peninsula. I want to go Dex/Int and started samurai and am loving my uchigatana, but I haven't found a staff or catalyst yet (and I don't think the mage vendor I found in her ruins sells one?), anyone want to point me towards one? There’s a very basic catalyst in weeping peninsula
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:15 |
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Tosk posted:I'm about 7 hours in and have mostly cleared out Limgrave, advanced the NPC storylines there, met Gurranq and farmed the little dudes around his temple a bit and am now heading into the Weeping Peninsula. I want to go Dex/Int and started samurai and am loving my uchigatana, but I haven't found a staff or catalyst yet (and I don't think the mage vendor I found in her ruins sells one?), anyone want to point me towards one? for incantations it's a "seal" in this game - you can get one from the merchants in the Roundtable Hold for 800 runes or a trade in a Deathroot at Gurranq the Beast Clergyman (when you get teleportered to the Bestial Sanctum, which I did early on by accident). for sorceries you're looking for a glintstone staff, some mage enemies in Caria Manor will drop them Dr. Yinz Ljubljana fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Mar 9, 2022 |
# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:16 |
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Beat godskin duo. Boy did I get a shock when the second one revived the other lol. was all good though I don't find them that bad and moonveil ruins their day same as anything else.
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FishMcCool posted:Well, if your weapon uses Somberstones, it can't use ashes of war, so you don't need to worry too much about those. Though if you start using a normal smithing stone weapon, you absolutely want to put ashes on it. It's free, you can take it off whenever you want, and it 1) changes the "L2" special weapon move, and 2) changes the stats scaling so that you can change the weapon scaling to better fit your own stats, so basically, it should be a straight and considerable damage upgrade. Just completed that spoilered area. Pretty cool spot. It looks like there's a super high upper area on the highest plateau that I couldn't reach though. The "puzzle" for the boss fight was purely contained on the bottom level so I just assumed I'm not supposed to get up there yet right?
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:23 |
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Imagine flying dragons in ER2
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:25 |
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TeaJay posted:Yes, I'm using it, I'm level 102 and also with mimic, but I just can't get it done. The homing skulls in the 2nd phase get me every time. I've also tried a strategy someone said to just get as close to him as possible, both phases, and it works well in the 1st, but like I said, the skulls will just get me usually in the 2nd and especially if I get hit with something first. If I can't get it down I'll try to range him again. Sorry man, I don't know what to tell ya. For that attack, I just spammed dodge, but even if some get through (they do), I just tank the damage and heal, or dodge first then heal. I'm running 50 Vigor, if that helps.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:25 |
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Moofia Boss Val posted:It's been 17 years since Shadow of the Colossus and the first Chronicles of Narnia game came out, and 10 years since Dragon's Dogma released, in which you the player could climb on large monsters and actually fight them sensibly. You are not wrong, but also dragon dogma style climbing monsters was somewhat weird, with the character making weird poses. To do this in 2022 you would need way more animations, then a way to communicate and explain why some monsters are climbable and not others. Then make sure people don't use monsters to break sequence (like entering the city before they are allowed). Is a lot of work.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:28 |
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JBP posted:Fire giant kind of sucks. I see how to do it but I keep getting owned at random ah well. Quoting because I remembered reading this earlier before facing him and I immediately thought of this post after getting my rear end clapped several times. What a dull fight, really disappointing!!
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Artelier posted:Sorry man, I don't know what to tell ya. For that attack, I just spammed dodge, but even if some get through (they do), I just tank the damage and heal, or dodge first then heal. I'm running 50 Vigor, if that helps. I don't have as much vigor, but eventually made it through. For the first phase, I found it actually better to mob him, then for the second to try and range with charged R2.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:34 |
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blue squares posted:Then I’ll suck at everything else! I’m only level 58. Or do you mean just for that one fight Come back at 70, make life easier for yourself. I don't frequently summon or use spirits but I tend to do a lot of side content so I'm probably a bit over leveled compared to many but it allows me to fight bosses in a way I find the most fun. There's little reason to struggle through 10+ attempts at boss unless you want to, with the probable exception of a few late game bosses I haven't fought. Not directing this at you specifically but I don't understand newcomers not leveling their health as their first priority. People tend to know that these games are hard and that you can die quickly. Level the stat that makes you die slower! Brandfarlig fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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How far into the main story is The Mountaintop of the Giants? I just finished Leyndell last night. As a Spellcaster I feel like all of these mobs up here are just giant damage sponges. Like the stuff in the Zamor Ruins took me so many Rock Slings to kill. Talking to Gideon it sounds like I've still got so many bosses to fight
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:39 |
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TeaJay posted:Yes, I'm using it, I'm level 102 and also with mimic, but I just can't get it done. The homing skulls in the 2nd phase get me every time. I've also tried a strategy someone said to just get as close to him as possible, both phases, and it works well in the 1st, but like I said, the skulls will just get me usually in the 2nd and especially if I get hit with something first. If I can't get it down I'll try to range him again. Don't know if you posted it but you can upgrade the weapon you pick up in his arena and greatly boost it's damage. Uses somber stones so it's not a massive investment either. Found that I was able to just out damage him fast enough.
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JBP posted:Beat godskin duo. Boy did I get a shock when the second one revived the other lol. was all good though I don't find them that bad and moonveil ruins their day same as anything else. I thought they would give me more grief but I took no more than a handful of goes at all theend bosses. I think my build was humming along nicely. With mine I killed them both then had to wait for them to respawn for me to finish killing them
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Sab669 posted:How far into the main story is The Mountaintop of the Giants? I just finished Leyndell last night. As a Spellcaster I feel like all of these mobs up here are just giant damage sponges. Like the stuff in the Zamor Ruins took me so many Rock Slings to kill. Talking to Gideon it sounds like I've still got so many bosses to fight
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TeaJay posted:I'm having trouble with the Rykard fight. He attacks SO slowly I can't react, having used to faster attack patterns. The second phase is where it starts to get really hard with all the stuff flying around at you too. But I'm having trouble in the first phase too, never seem to be able to dodge the grab, mainly due to the weird timing. Have you upgraded the lance?, you may check the consumabled, maybe that green finger that increase stamina regeneration is what you need. I don't remember if Rykard damage is fire or magic. You can equip a medallion with protection about that.
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Yay beating a crucible knight is the most accomplished I’ve felt in this game so far. I can chalk beating Magrit and Goodrick up to some luck but the Stormhill CK was all methodical learning of his patterns, trying a strategy out, it not working and then figuring out a new strategy that let me take the last quarter of his health when I only had a sliver left. It even ended with us both swinging at each other at the end. Ideal experience
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algebra testes posted:I thought they would give me more grief but I took no more than a handful of goes at all theend bosses. I finished the battle by luring them together and deleting them both with Azul's laser as a flourish. I was toying with them at that point though, having fought them both already I was confident and that room is just full of ai brain breaking walls. They stagger pretty easily and their attacks aren't that horrendous when you've seen it all before.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:49 |
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FishMcCool posted:I have seen it mentioned that some people just never engaged him, instead just sticking by the summon signs and resummoning NPCs to tickle him until he dies. You have to survive the first few purple arrows, but after that it should be smooth sailing, if not exactly fast. I'm stuck on this guy right now, but when I tried this approach I got him down to 20%. Made the mistake of wading in thinking I could finish him off. I think by fine-tuning how I stagger the summons in I might be able to just cheese this fight, which is fine by me at this point.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:52 |
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Truly this is game of the year, no question about it https://twitter.com/catalystz_/status/1501306007275909125?s=21
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Steve Yun posted:Yay beating a crucible knight is the most accomplished I’ve felt in this game so far. I can chalk beating Magrit and Goodrick up to some luck but the Stormhill CK was all methodical learning of his patterns, trying a strategy out, it not working and then figuring out a new strategy that let me take the last quarter of his health when I only had a sliver left. It even ended with us both swinging at each other at the end. Ideal experience That crucible knight has killed me more than any other boss. By the end I'd do 2/3 of his health without getting hit. poo poo has changed since Pursuer and his 5 attacks that he can't cancel or delay.
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The Little Kielbasa posted:I was also stuck until I respecced to cast Rotten Breath, (a dragon communion spell that causes scarlet rot). He's super vulnerable to rot, so you pretty just need to hit him with it once in each phase while otherwise riding around to resummon your guys and avoid his BS. Yeah I noticed his opening cinematic strongly hints at that approach. I may need to try that.
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Scruffpuff posted:I'm stuck on this guy right now, but when I tried this approach I got him down to 20%. Made the mistake of wading in thinking I could finish him off. I think by fine-tuning how I stagger the summons in I might be able to just cheese this fight, which is fine by me at this point. I summoned everybody at first then went in a helped. That wasn't bad with all the others there taking focus. Once he hit the next phase I just ran around summoning guys over and over again. It was slow and boring but the fucker died.
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Scruffpuff posted:I'm stuck on this guy right now, but when I tried this approach I got him down to 20%. Made the mistake of wading in thinking I could finish him off. I think by fine-tuning how I stagger the summons in I might be able to just cheese this fight, which is fine by me at this point. I let them do their work and raced around to get more summons then I sat at the top of the hill firing Loretta's Greatbow spell and it felt like a suitable get hosed way to win.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 14:57 |
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Rykard is straight up a Berserk apostle lmao. What a sick design and boss fight. They really went all-out on making the confrontation with each Lord feel like a huge event. They finally nailed the Storm Ruler gimmick perfectly, it feels awesome and powerful wielding the spear but the boss wasn't a total pushover. I almost beat his 2nd phase on my first try but got stuck between the lava and a wall and couldn't nail the final hit. After that I fell into the "suddenly lost all capacity to deal with the first phase" rut and had to call it a night.
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Scruffpuff posted:I'm stuck on this guy right now, but when I tried this approach I got him down to 20%. Made the mistake of wading in thinking I could finish him off. I think by fine-tuning how I stagger the summons in I might be able to just cheese this fight, which is fine by me at this point. This wouldn't have worked for me since I never once successfully dodged his rock-homing-soulmass combo attack in my 25ish attempts. Eventually I just dual weapon bursted the rear end in a top hat as hard as I could and managed to kill him before he launched it.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 15:05 |
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Now that I'm level 21 and out of that awful Prophet gear, the game's seemed a lot more open. Ran down to Margit again just to see how the fight looks now, and I got him below 50% my first try, and down to 20% a few more times before I gave up. Pretty awesome, though, since I hadn't realized how much stronger I've become since I ran into him the first time. I was gonna wait til I could equip the Winged Scythe to take him on, but that's still like 14 levels away at minimum and by that time I'll be able to one-shot him. Not sure whether I'll try again today or grind just a little more so it'll be a sure thing. I've finally got my head around the weapon system I think -- I guess I can pick basically any "base" weapon that I like the moveset for and level that up and put Ashes on it, and it'll stay competitive throughout the game? Or at least until I find some boss weapon later on? I haven't upgraded any weapons yet, and I'm still using the Lordsworn's Straight Sword I found at the Gatefront Ruins, so that might be an easy way to do another 20% damage, too. I want to try the Lordsworn Greatsword but it pushes me wayyyy into Heavy Load, so it'll be a while. Is it a bad idea to upgrade the Straight Sword? I never hear anyone else talk about using it.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 15:09 |
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Aurubin posted:They must pick a theme for all the creepy poo poo in these games. Bloodborne it was eyes, now all the weird hand and finger poo poo. touch fingers?
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 15:12 |
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I wonder if they turned the Berserk references up to 11 after Kentaro Miura died. I mean, the Erdtree itself is a reference to a lot of things but the Berserk world tree is among them, Guts' sword is in the game, I've already been by a Hill of Swords analogue in the few hours I've been playing, there's a location called Wyndham, all of the mages since DS1 and Big Hat Logan seem to be a reference to the Berserk witch aesthetic, the Prisoner looking like Griffith, enemies that are like Apostles, etc. It would be cool if it were intentional but if it isn't then it's cool that Miyazaki's aesthetic is so influenced by the Berserk flavor of dark fantasy. Loving the game so far, looking forward to getting my poo poo kicked in by the bullshit bosses later on so I can decide for myself how much of the crying I see online is legitimate vs "git gud"
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 15:16 |
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The Little Kielbasa posted:The other option is is to get good, but gently caress that. Getting good is figuring out how to beat it. Doesn't matter how it happens.
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# ? May 27, 2024 21:56 |
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can someone spoil me some easy to acquire larvae
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