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ilkhan posted:Northern Iowa. Lots of snow/ice. The roads are generally acceptable once plowed, but where we are is... Uh, not at the top of the priority list due to the population number. Dude I live in northern Illinois, almost Wisconsin, probably not that far away from you. You can totally drive a BRZ with winter tires and some care.
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mobby_6kl posted:Videos are out too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czt4Nj20lY looks good for a giant SUV, but not my cup of tea. How does it go only 37 miles / 60km out of a 17.8kWh battery?
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Charles posted:How does it go only 37 miles / 60km out of a 17.8kWh battery? The RAV4 Prime only gets 42 miles out of an 18.1kWh battery so that seems normal for PHEV range.
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I love how Mazda got the message that piano black plastic, capacitive buttons and touchscreens loving suck. Mazda & Genesis are at the top of my list for next car. 
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The RAV4 Prime only gets 42 miles out of an 18.1kWh battery so that seems normal for PHEV range. Ah well fair enough I suppose.
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smooth jazz posted:I love how Mazda got the message that piano black plastic, capacitive buttons and touchscreens loving suck. gently caress I was so fixated on the normal shifter that I completely missed that they are keeping the big Commander dial/knob and physical buttons. gently caress yes! And that does look so much better without all the piano black. I really hope the CX70 looks better exterior wise, but yeah go ahead and copy that exact interior all day Mazda! Part of my dislike has to do with the body colored fender trim. When it was grey plastic I thought I'd like it better if they painted it. But now on the Cx-60 and signature 2022 Cx-5 I really dislike it. I think the Turbo Cx-5 trim for the 2022 is the sweet spot with the gloss black trim on the fenders. That pops.
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Franco Caution posted:
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smooth jazz posted:I love how Mazda got the message that piano black plastic, capacitive buttons and touchscreens loving suck. Oh yeah that interior is really nice. I6 longitudinal engines, RWD, great interior. drat. Hope they make Mazda 6 wagon with this setup.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Dude I live in northern Illinois, almost Wisconsin, probably not that far away from you. You can totally drive a BRZ with winter tires and some care. It's where I live and I drive a RWD 535 with all of the torques. I have winter tires for the winter and I've never had an issue. I was terrified at first, and now I drift around every corner I can (as long as other cars aren't around). Also I learned to drive a manual on a 92 MR2. Went to the dude's house, paid, and then spent an hour or so driving around the neighborhood to practice. Drove it home 45 minutes away and only stalled it once!
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Yea I had a 350Z up in the north east for a good few years. Winter Tires = my only problem was ground clearance, not traction
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Clearance can definitely be an issue Yeah, if like he said the roads don't get plowed often and there's a lot of snow and you can't work from home, you need something that can clear it. That of course just means you need a lift and big tires on your toyobaru  edit: Sab669 posted:Yea I had a 350Z up in the north east for a good few years. Winter Tires = my only problem was ground clearance, not traction You just needed to do this! 
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I'll just wait for Nissan to make that GripZ concept they announced years ago lol
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Isn't Porsche making a factory lifted 911 soon?
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Car enthusiasts: Oh my god CUVs are just lifted wagons, they're the worst Also car enthusiasts: Rally based coupes are so loving tight
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Sab669 posted:Car enthusiasts: Oh my god CUVs are just lifted wagons, they're the worst I'm not seeing the issue here
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KillHour posted:I'm not seeing the issue here 
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I'm going to throw out a couple of ideas for the automakers: plaid cloth inner fender liners (or Gucci or whatever, go nuts) three-row SUVs with three sets... of doors or a third row that flips backwards into the hatch. Pick up your rugrat, put them in their car seat in the third row like an astronaut preparing for takeoff, then flip the seat into its normal orientation for driving.
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Sab669 posted:I'll just wait for Nissan to make that GripZ concept they announced years ago lol That's just an overdesigned Juke. Gross.
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PBCrunch posted:I'm going to throw out a couple of ideas for the automakers: *Is an auto executive* Got it, bigger touch screen.
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KillHour posted:I'm not seeing the issue here I mean don't get me wrong, rally is my favorite form of racing. I just find it an interesting paradox. I guess because lifted coupes are in fact rally inspired, but lifted hatchback CUVs are generally devoid of fun and happiness and for sad people who want to remain sad.
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Sab669 posted:I mean don't get me wrong, rally is my favorite form of racing. I just find it an interesting paradox. Cool cars are cool because they aren't boring. Someone could theoretically make a boring lifted coupe just like someone could theoretically make a cool lifted wagon.
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Sab669 posted:I guess because lifted coupes are in fact rally inspired, but lifted hatchback CUVs are generally devoid of fun and happiness and for sad people who want to remain sad. There's a lot of nice-to-drive crossovers now, including the Porsche Macan, Ford Mach E, arguably Mazda everything.
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PBCrunch posted:I'm going to throw out a couple of ideas for the automakers: This is what I want https://www.autoblog.com/2021/01/07/kia-sedona-hi-limousine/#slide-2287868
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Twerk from Home posted:There's a lot of nice-to-drive crossovers now, including the Porsche Macan, Ford Mach E, arguably Mazda everything. I've not really paid attention to anything Mazda, but those are far out of reach for most people. While trying to figure out what to replace my FoRS with I briefly considered a Macan, but while I could afford to buy one I don't think I could reasonably afford to own one. Actually, I am mildly interested in seeing what youtube says about the Kona N when that comes out. But I still couldn't see myself buying one.
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The Kona N has been out for a while, I have driven one and it's pretty fun. I also like the looks a lot. The main issue I had is they wanted 5k over msrp and I felt like for having almost 280hp, it wasn't any faster than my GTI. Also the torque steer was worse, everything was a bit more raw feeling than the GTI.
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Rusty posted:The Kona N has been out for a while, I have driven one and it's pretty fun. I also like the looks a lot. The main issue I had is they wanted 5k over msrp and I felt like for having almost 280hp, it wasn't any faster than my GTI. Also the torque steer was worse, everything was a bit more raw feeling than the GTI. Weird, not a single one of the youtube channels I enjoy has reviewed the car - but just generically searching for it, yea there's enough videos about it. Interesting.
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Russian Bear posted:This is what I want We get a bunch of Japanese import luxury people-movers (minivans) here and some of them have some pretty amazing interiors. The Toyota Vellfire/Alphard for example are basically a big metal box full of leather lay-z-boy recliners. When my partner was looking for something to convert into a mountain bike holiday van that we could also sleep in we were looking at minivans because they're a lot cheaper than actual vans and nearly as big. We decided it was going to be way too much effort to rip out all of the luxury interior from the larger ones though (Vellfire, Elgrand etc.) and ended up with a Honda Stepwgn which btw is actually quite a nice vehicle for its intended purpose, despite being a CVT and insanely gutless.
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Sab669 posted:Car enthusiasts: Oh my god CUVs are just lifted wagons, they're the worst Honestly the safari trend needs to die soon: it'll only encourage CUV makers more. I learned to drive/drive stick on a 1996 2.0 Jetta, a car that I later learned was considered one of the worst possible cars to learn stick on due to it's relatively heavy weight, 115hp/122 ft-lb 2.0 engine, and clutch that went from 0-100% engaged in like, a centimeter of travel. My dad screaming at me every time I stalled made it even worse.  The first time I drove my friend's Civic was a revelation in comparison.
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the go to in my area was the roughly 1990-1998 Subaru Loyale/GL/Impreza/Legacy and man those transmissions were dreadful. no feedback in the clutch at all, and just the most wildly vague shifter linkage in history. even the ranger was better, and then of course the Nissan Maxima was like manna from heaven
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Sab669 posted:Car enthusiasts: Oh my god CUVs are just lifted wagons, they're the worst Rally cars aren't lifted wagons  Just need a ton of suspension travel Sab669 posted:I've not really paid attention to anything Mazda, but those are far out of reach for most people. While trying to figure out what to replace my FoRS with I briefly considered a Macan, but while I could afford to buy one I don't think I could reasonably afford to own one. I havent' seen any Kona N reviews but all other N hatchbacks get very positive press mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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Woolwich Bagnet posted:Yeah, if like he said the roads don't get plowed often and there's a lot of snow and you can't work from home, you need something that can clear it. I've been daydreaming about doing that to my increasingly rusty mazdaspeed for a couple years now
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I feel like there's some sort of middle ground between an overly tall CUV/SUV and a sedan with 20" rims with rubber band tires and 4.5" of ground clearance. And often times they put the drat wheels/tires on the former anyways, eliminating a lot of the advantage. Seriously, can we just all go back to the sane era of 16 and 17" wheels? That's one of the reasons why I loved my Bugeye WRX. 16" wheels with 55 profile tires so they can actually hit a pothole and 6.1" of ground clearance so I didn't have to worry about scraping or bottoming out.
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Woolwich Bagnet posted:Yeah, if like he said the roads don't get plowed often and there's a lot of snow and you can't work from home, you need something that can clear it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=67zd8J5EvGI
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bull3964 posted:Seriously, can we just all go back to the sane era of 16 and 17" wheels? They still exist, just not at the nicer trim levels.
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bull3964 posted:I feel like there's some sort of middle ground between an overly tall CUV/SUV and a sedan with 20" rims with rubber band tires and 4.5" of ground clearance. This, exactly, is why I ended up with a CUV for a utility/road trip car. Not only has the market of appealing sedans and wagons dwindled, they all have 5" or less of ground clearance on 20" rims which is increasingly untenable just on decaying urban American roads, much less things like forest roads and snow. I don't need real offroading capability, but I don't want to be scraping on driveways, losing my fillings on washboard dirt roads, or plowing in a few inches of snow. For over a decade I DD'ed nothing but small RWD cars, and I love them for what they are, but they increasingly suck for regular practical driving. All the scrapes and scuffs under the front fascia and all over the underbody on my E46 are a testament to that. An extra inch of ride height and some fatter tires on smaller wheels would go a long way, but that's apparently anathema to the segment which I think is just accelerating its demise for all but the most diehard enthusiasts. Plus the CUV takes all the abuses and wear and tear of daily life, and I can keep my nice RWD coupe as a second car just for the enjoyable drives. Guinness fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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You all need to check out the loving Corolla hatchback in SE trim -20k freedom bux out the door -6mt -5.1” clearance -16” wheels -not a cuv/suv -analog gauges -physical buttons - p/w of na Miata so you can just rip it all the time -Chassis is good/has good agility -NA
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no lube so what posted:You all need to check out the loving Corolla hatchback in SE trim Ducks on autotrader really quick.... Here's one for $32k. Cool. Cool cool cool.
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bull3964 posted:Ducks on autotrader really quick.... Lmbo, that’s stupid wild. Find the local old scion dealer turned Toyota dealer and order one at msrp and hope there is a factory rebate going on the month it arrives 
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