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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:They did flip out. One of them became president except Biden, because he's two years too old to be a boomer
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Mar 9, 2022 14:07
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:[url=”https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/09/ukraine-climate-scientist-russia-invasion-fossil-fuels"]‘This is a fossil fuel war’: Ukraine’s top climate scientist speaks out[/url] Of course some Obama admin is a complete loving moron. For all this talk from both parties about "energy independence" they don't seem to care about it!
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Mar 9, 2022 15:07
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i'm glad that people here truly realize the magnitude of the compounding problems we face in the 21st century without devolving into accusations of malthusianism any more 
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Mar 9, 2022 16:04
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re: old growth forest chat, this is a good article that explains how we're managing forests around here. Basically every time it's cold the USFS is burning as many trees as loving possible as quickly as possible to try and reduce forest density This style of forest management is going to spread everywhere sooner or later as things heat up more https://twitter.com/AP/status/1501569390415810560
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Mar 9, 2022 16:15
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Pryor on Fire posted:re: old growth forest chat, this is a good article that explains how we're managing forests around here. Basically every time it's cold the USFS is burning as many trees as loving possible as quickly as possible to try and reduce forest density Problem: forest fires Solution: get rid of forest Can't fault the logic.
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Mar 9, 2022 16:20
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At least everyone can be optimistic that at the first signs of a major food disruption countries all across the globe join together to immediately halt food exports Wait what
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Mar 9, 2022 16:26
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Hubbert posted:i'm glad that people here truly realize the magnitude of the compounding problems we face in the 21st century without devolving into accusations of malthusianism any more It's because I'm posting less 
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Mar 9, 2022 16:30
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Mar 9, 2022 16:38
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Rectal Death Adept posted:At least everyone can be optimistic that at the first signs of a major food disruption countries all across the globe join together to immediately halt food exports Based on the Ukraine situation, it seems like grain trading blocs are emerging. Better hope you're on the right side of the line or in a relatively self-sufficient country!
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Mar 9, 2022 16:57
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Pryor on Fire posted:re: old growth forest chat, this is a good article that explains how we're managing forests around here. Basically every time it's cold the USFS is burning as many trees as loving possible as quickly as possible to try and reduce forest density Isnt that just the after effect of logging? Logging takes wayyy more than prescribed burns do I believe? Also lol that they're just leaving the loving slash piles now, I've been seeing more and more everywhere. Dead rear end land I was looking at oregon from Google earth, that poo poo used to have trees didnt it?
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Mar 9, 2022 17:02
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:I was looking at oregon from Google earth, that poo poo used to have trees didnt it?
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Mar 9, 2022 17:06
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net work error posted:Of course some Obama admin is a complete loving moron. For all this talk from both parties about "energy independence" they don't seem to care about it! quote:Before his service in the Obama Administration, he founded Eastlink Consulting, LLC where he guided corporate and non-profit clients on commercial energy projects in Europe and Eurasia, and he served as a non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, researching international energy security issues. Let’s see what Eastlink Consulting is all about…. http://www.eastlink-consulting.com/projects/18/Melaka-LNG-Regasification-Unit/ http://www.eastlink-consulting.com/projects/19/Iraq-Crude-Oil-Export-Expansion-Project/ http://www.eastlink-consulting.com/projects/20/Tanzania-SPM-Replacement-Project/ http://www.eastlink-consulting.com/projects/11/Lekir-Bulk-Terminal-Jetty,-Malaysia./ http://www.eastlink-consulting.com/projects/10/Manjung-Power-Station,-Civil-works-Package,-Malaysia/ Ah well….
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Mar 9, 2022 17:13
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Isnt that just the after effect of logging? Logging takes wayyy more than prescribed burns do I believe? Also lol that they're just leaving the loving slash piles now, I've been seeing more and more everywhere. Dead rear end land there is almost zero logging here, all the lumber mills are hundreds of miles away so it's not worth the drive to make money
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Mar 9, 2022 17:16
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Yea I think all the trees are gone now. Almost, they still produce more softwood lumber and plywood than any other state
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Mar 9, 2022 17:16
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I mean I've never met a logger or seen a truck with logs on it in all my life, I think that's more of a west coast thing. Pine sucks for most applications.
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Mar 9, 2022 17:21
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Pryor on Fire posted:I mean I've never met a logger or seen a truck with logs on it in all my life, I think that's more of a west coast thing. Pine sucks for most applications. The south East is filled with logging and paper product mills because that’s what you can use the lovely trees for
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Mar 9, 2022 17:23
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Pryor on Fire posted:I mean I've never met a logger or seen a truck with logs on it in all my life, I think that's more of a west coast thing. Pine sucks for most applications. Honestly can't tell if you're trolling lol. It's a good joke though because there arent many trees left!
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Mar 9, 2022 17:24
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:‘This is a fossil fuel war’: Ukraine’s top climate scientist speaks out lol lmao
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Mar 9, 2022 17:38
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Honestly can't tell if you're trolling lol. It's a good joke though because there arent many trees left! There is no logging. The forest service still cuts down and burns the trees as much as they can. This is the reality that is the future of many forests. Why do you think this is le epic troll? I am so confused.
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Mar 9, 2022 18:36
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Complications posted:The moment there's a hiccup they just say it out loud where anyone can hear to nothing but applause.
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Mar 9, 2022 18:36
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Pryor on Fire posted:There is no logging. The forest service still cuts down and burns the trees as much as they can. This is the reality that is the future of many forests. Why do you think this is le epic troll? I am so confused. The part where they logged 3.6 million bf in 2020. There are like 20 something mills still in oregon, but maybe you aren't there or something and talking about where you live? idgi "According to the Oregon Employment Department’s covered employment statistics, forestry and logging’s 722 firms employed 9,041 workers statewide and added $589 million in payroll to Oregon’s economy in 2020." and "The largest industry in the forestry and logging subsector is logging, which totaled 600 reporting units and 4,744 employees in 2020." "There was an average of 550,400 board feet harvested per logging worker in 1990. By 2020, that figure had risen to 764,100 board feet per worker." and it isn't slowing down lol "Outlook Employment Department projections show that the logging industry in Oregon is expected to lose about 100 jobs, or 2% between 2020 and 2030."
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Mar 9, 2022 18:48
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that picture is completely wrong though. the western peninsula of washington to this day still has old growth forest but that picture shows none at all in 1990
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Mar 9, 2022 18:50
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Spergin Morlock posted:that picture is completely wrong though. the western peninsula of washington to this day still has old growth forest but that picture shows none at all in 1990 It would only be like one or two pixels. Valley of the giants and the hoh are some of the only old growth left. Most of what you see now that's huge was early logged 2nd growth. The loggers absolutely decimated Washington first off because our terrain was some of the most easily reached.
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Mar 9, 2022 19:12
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the one "good" thing about climate change is it confirms any suspicions I've had that the lifestyles that many of us have, especially in the west, are completely superfluous bullshit
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Mar 9, 2022 19:12
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welp, turns out this thread was right about the whole biosphere collapse thing all along, who would have guessed??? https://twitter.com/SciInsider/status/1501686711822209027?t=rykFc3NNeNdhUSLKxgO7qw&s=19 (article paywalled, link at https://archive.ph/RzIka) as usual, don't read the comments lmao
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Mar 10, 2022 05:25
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silicone thrills posted:It would only be like one or two pixels. Correct. 
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Mar 10, 2022 05:39
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https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1501785670200614916 Polyurethane (/ˌpɒliˈjʊərəˌθeɪn, -jʊəˈrɛθeɪn/;[1] often abbreviated PUR and PU) refers to a class of polymers composed of organic units joined by carbamate (urethane) links. In contrast to other common polymers such as polyethylene and polystyrene, polyurethane is produced from a wide range of starting materials (monomers) and is therefore a class of polymers, rather than a distinct compound. This chemical variety allows for polyurethanes with very different physical properties, leading to an equally wide range of different applications. These include: rigid and flexible foams, varnishes and coatings, adhesives, electrical potting compounds, and fibres such as spandex and PUL.
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Mar 10, 2022 06:05
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There’s one stand of virgin forest in monongahela National Forest in West Virginia, which survived against all odds due to a surveying error, but it’s quickly succumbing to disease. The primeval forest of West Virginia sounds so alien. No one will get to experience it again. This whole post was an excuse to post this quote from 1857. All of the laurel brakes were clearcut and as far as I can tell groupings of laurel this extensive don’t exist anywhere anymore. quote:The hunters had been dodging the laurel-brakes all day.......They had stories of men who had spent days in them, wandering in circles, and who had finally perished from starvation......Some of these brakes extend for many miles, and are so dense that even the deer cannot pass except by finding the thinnest places......Ascending the stump of a riven hemlock, a striking picture presented itself. The laurel waved up and down as far as the eye could reach, like a green lake, with either shore walled by the massive forest, and out of its bed rose singly or in groups of three or four, the tallest and most imposing of the fir species. kreeningsons has issued a correction as of 06:54 on Mar 10, 2022 |
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Mar 10, 2022 06:52
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People used to describe salmon in rivers as packed so tightly they looked like cobblestones, and that just sounds like fake poo poo to our ears today
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Mar 10, 2022 07:04
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quote:Warmer temperatures have already lowered yields of the globe’s big three staple crops—corn, wheat, and rice—by 5.3 percent since 1961, the authors find.
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Mar 10, 2022 07:04
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Mameluke posted:People used to describe salmon in rivers as packed so tightly they looked like cobblestones, and that just sounds like fake poo poo to our ears today flocks of passenger pigeons would darken the sky and turn day to night
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Mar 10, 2022 07:06
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It’s horrifying what happened to the passenger pigeon. Their extinction had profound effects on forest ecology, and not for the better. If only we could bring them back.
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Mar 10, 2022 07:19
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The ethics of destroying the world
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Mar 10, 2022 07:36
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kreeningsons posted:There’s one stand of virgin forest in monongahela National Forest in West Virginia, which survived against all odds due to a surveying error, but it’s quickly succumbing to disease. i don't even know what this is supposed to look like its such an alien description
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Mar 10, 2022 08:05
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if u think about it a forest is just like a nice suburbian lawn on macro. but with the lawn u get to own it and be the personal curator and the only person who enjoys it. and thats better and more american. 
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Mar 10, 2022 10:55
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err posted:The ethics of destroying the world
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Mar 10, 2022 11:07
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atelier morgan posted:i don't even know what this is supposed to look like its such an alien description “Laurel‐brakes” are thickets of very dense “mountain laurel” shrubs, which are not true laurels but the species Kalmia latifoli, related to rhododendron. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDBYEoSIm3M These are true rhododendrons growing outside of their natural enviornment, but imagine a similar plant growing that thickly.
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Mar 10, 2022 11:10
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Platystemon posted:It’s horrifying what happened to the passenger pigeon.
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Mar 10, 2022 11:19
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kreeningsons posted:There’s one stand of virgin forest in monongahela National Forest in West Virginia, which survived against all odds due to a surveying error quote:Some years before the Civil War a speculating land company bought a tract of 69,000 acres [280 km2] on the slope of Shavers Mountain. Their tract fronted for about seven miles [11 km] along the eastern side of the mountain. To survey and mark their holdings the company hired a crew of men who must have found rough going in this wilderness. The crew did a good job, but its chief forgot one thing – the fact that a compass needle points to magnetic, not true north. In this area the angle of declination is about four degrees, a significant source of error on a seven-mile [11 km] front ... An experienced Virginia surveyor, in checking the data, discovered the error but said nothing about it. Presently, however, when the sale was being concluded and the deeds recorded, he brought the error to light, and under a sort of "doctrine of vacancy" claimed the wedge of land left by a corrected survey. His title was established, and he and his heirs found themselves owner of a seven-mile strip of forest, aggregating almost 900 acres [3.6 km2]. While timber above and below the wedge was cut, this narrow holding was undisturbed. Its thickest end, a fringe of tall spruces on the near horizon, is just east of Gaudineer Tower. From these trees came seed to produce a new forest, a happy result of a hundred-year-old mistake. Nice.
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Mar 10, 2022 11:29
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I have some eastern white pine in my woods that are over 4 feet in diameter and I feel like its my duty to keep them safe
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