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Cephas posted:Lol I cheesed the village fight with the power of two ladders. Zero casualties, no fires required. Normally I wouldn't resort to something like that. But when the game presents that battle as a legitimate moral dilemma I feel like you have the right to say "what about the third option: a cheeky map-specific strategy with the character you just gave me." What did you do?
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Gyoru posted:Hossabara doesn't have a great kit. There are characters with better realized kits once fully upgraded (fully promoted+weapon upgrades) She's interesting, if a little weak at first but had a place in my army until the end. Honestly the thing she does best is hit real hard. She also becomes real tanky after her first promotion when she gets Desperate Defense. She hits as hard (if not harder) than anyone else in the army. Pure damage doesn't have quite the premium in this game but her ability to back up a healer and throw people all over the map is pretty amazing. I gave her the regen accessory to counterbalance her Be Brave not healing her and she survives well on the front lines with no attention. She was my army's wild card in my first runthrough. I will probably replace her with someone else to experiment on my next run but she's a super capable unit despite seeming like she's all over the place.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:What did you do? There are three unreachable rooves on the map. I used the two center ones. They each can hold 4 units. The unit limit is 10 for that stage so I deployed 9. Hughette went solo on the leftmost roof which is larger but harder to get enemies to congregate in front of. Basically, you immediately use the blacksmith to make a ladder up to a roof and then beeline 4 units up there. Support units go in the back, damage casters like Frederica and the sage boy should be near the front so they have more range to target stuff. Once 4 units are up there, make a ladder on the next building since you can only make 1 at a time. I recommend Benedict in the back. Then maybe Geela, then Julio, then Fredericka closest to the ladder. That lets you maximize each units efficacy. Take a similar approach for the second roof and put casters at the front. The enemy cannot climb the ladder if you have a unit parked on top it. Archers can't hit the two smaller rooves. Only mages can target your party at all, but there are only like two enemy mages. It takes a long time but it's basically infallible and leaves the village intact.
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jens can actually put down two ladders. but yeah not applicable here since its early game and that is something he gets way later on.
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I appreciate that they gave Geela a speed buff to give her something to do if nobody needs healing. Speed buffs that boost turn frequency are always good in SRPGs.
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let me tell you about this child who can control time and space
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Gyoru posted:let me tell you about this child who can control time and space You are gonna need to narrow that down lol. This game has a shocking amount of child soldiers with insane reality warping powers
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I didn't have Jens for the village fight, so instead I just balled up on the stairs and let Erador and Serenoa get punched in the face. Serenoa had just gotten Counter Stance so Avlora slowly killed herself trying to murder him.
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Oh hey, I also did the village fight without using the fire traps. Also hinging entirely on the blacksmith, except instead of using the ladders I used the knockback traps. I setup my entire party on the topmost ledge along the houses and put down some traps that would push enemies down to the middle tier where the market stalls were. Avlora died to being knocked down that ledge like 4 times in a row without ever getting to attack. Gravity never fails.
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I am really enjoying the story. It feels like Witcher 2 where a lot of the decisions aren't necessarily good but the game really makes it so you couldn't imagine going any other direction with it. I can't remember chapter numbers which is frustrating for me because I can't really mouse over spoilers since I legit have no idea when that might be. I feel like the green ! kinda move you into what decision to make. Like Tellisto (i think I spelled that wrong) they show him basically being an opportunist and a prick and I don't know how you could possibly agree with anything he says. I do kinda want to play through again - I'm not THAT far from the end it feels - but at the same time with some decisions I feel like the other option is mega evil and I don't know if I can bring myself to do that. Also as others have said theres not really a lot of character advancement. I'd like to do new game+ to see the characters I assume I missed but otherwise the gameplay would be super similar because there's not MUCH choice when you're levelling. I feel like +1 defence or +1 luck are so hard for me to care about, I want more exciting abilities and branching classes I think, there. The promotions seemed exciting at first but they're definitely just sorta "there". I've had to do a lot of fights more than once - defending (I've no idea when these are, post chapter 10?) the rosalia village and the level where you have to kill the Aesfrost General come to mind especially. God I hate maps that hem me in and I can't move properly, one of the spoiler ones I'm trapped at the start behind a big fountain and it's so loving irritating, easily my least favourite battle in the game. I tried the burning houses fight about ten times without burning any houses as well but just straight up couldn't do it. I got the blacksmith at least 5 chapters later though, unfortunately. Maybe that would have helped! That said the mental battles all seem EXTREMELY easy in comparison. I never die in those. Hell I barely lose a character. It's just a total roll every time. I've basically not used Benedict the whole game because I'm not good at buffing and his attacks are really weak. I feel like when it's my go I want to DO something and buffing doesn't count as that. The Archmage kid is loving great and I like having his spells although it's very easy for him to die, it feels like the AI super targets him. The Shaman is very strong too and they DON'T seem to do that to her. Lightning is just amazing and when the enemy uses it I'm always kinda scared. I've not touched Medina or Piccolino because item characters just scare me, items are expensive and because you REALLY need that healing stuff I just can't do it. Any characters that require forward planning and knowing what's happening for my next characters turn I just avoid - Lionel, the Blacksmith, a bunch of others. I did love the idea of horse healer lady but her not healing herself loving sucks honestly. What I do feel is that I don't have enough melee characters. I've got Anna, Roland, Serenoa, Maxwell who I literally just got, Erador and MAYBE the accountant guy who is not too bad at melee but a bit squishy. All the recruitment events feel like they've been drowning me in casters. And casters are nice but I need a beefier front line. UI wise I find I die a lot because I feel like the bar at the bottom isn't in the order I expect. I look down there, it shows me in big and the next person going is Roland. Cool that's fine. I do my turn, then a baddie goes and kills me because I wasn't expecting it. This happens loving LOADS and it's extremely frustrating for me. I don't understand how I'm reading it wrong, or if it moves (moving when I highlight someone maybe?) but gently caress me it's very annoying and I've lost a bunch of characters in a bunch of fights for it. Taear fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 10, 2022 |
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Taear posted:UI wise I find I die a lot because I feel like the bar at the bottom isn't in the order I expect. I look down there, it shows me in big and the next person going is Roland. Cool that's fine. I do my turn, then a baddie goes and kills me because I wasn't expecting it. This happens loving LOADS and it's extremely frustrating for me. I don't understand how I'm reading it wrong, or if it moves (moving when I highlight someone maybe?) but gently caress me it's very annoying and I've lost a bunch of characters in a bunch of fights for it. The order bar absolutly reacts based on whom you're hovering over or attacking or something. Hitting X (or Y) on an empty square should just put a number on every character's turn order to make that less annoying though.
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Taear posted:I've not touched Medina or Piccolino because item characters just scare me, items are expensive and you REALLY need that healing stuff I just can't do it. The secret is piccolino is an item character second, and defensive/tactical use character first. Her decoy attacks on it's own, accepts heals, will make follow up attacks, and of course its main purpose: take up hits. Also medina uses that healing stuff more effectively and gives people tp once you have her leveled. Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Mar 10, 2022 |
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Snooze Cruise posted:The secret is piccolino is an item character second, and defensive/tactical use character first. Her decoy attacks on it's own, accepts heals, will make follow up attacks, and of course its main purpose: take up hits. Things like the decoy work a bit like the traps guy, I can't...make my mind work like that, I can't plan my moves out. I just wanna stab stuff I really want the barrel robot that's in the picture inside the box
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Taear posted:Things like the decoy work a bit like the traps guy, I can't...make my mind work like that, I can't plan my moves out. I just wanna stab stuff You don't really need to think about where you put it, just plop it behind an enemy that it can make follow up attacks on or a position where you would have erador in.
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Snooze Cruise posted:You don't really need to think about where you put it, just plop it behind an enemy that it can make follow up attacks on or a position where you would have erador in. I do, because I want to be attacking. If it's not directly attacking (or potentially healing so I don't die) I'm not gonna do it because I can't weigh it up, I can't think ahead like that It's why I don't like benedict It's fine, it works, it just means I'm never using her
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Decoy is basically “summon an AI-controlled clone that has a passive taunt”. It’s a free extra unit you don’t have to micro-manage, which is stupid good.
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this is what is finally going to turn me into the joker
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I hope that with NG+ I can successfully make it so I have a really different takeup of characters so I can encourage myself to use different people. I mean it's going to be hard to give up using Anna or Hughette say, but I'm still interested. I do wonder if the people in the box picture (there are 60) are every character in the game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Jnap7qQK8 Triangle strategy HD remaster looking sick
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Okay I protected Castle Wolfort without torching the town, the oil items worked really well. Idiot boss lady stood on a flaming panel so she could kill Serenoa and it cost her a ton of hp. Then it was a matter of picking off the remaining guys with Hughette. My biggest problem before was that I split my forces instead of keeping them all together. Keep them all in that corner and get the enemies to stand on the stairs, then torch them. Then they will go around the other way to reach you, so you can make a flame wall there, too. I got a shitload of spoils including a medal of bravery. And I feel like a genius lol game is good!
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No Mods No Masters posted:THE DioFIELD CHRONICLE Why is it that I like the name Project: Triangle Strategy but not The DioField Chronicle?
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Okay I protected Castle Wolfort without torching the town, the oil items worked really well. Idiot boss lady stood on a flaming panel so she could kill Serenoa and it cost her a ton of hp. Then it was a matter of picking off the remaining guys with Hughette. My biggest problem before was that I split my forces instead of keeping them all together. Keep them all in that corner and get the enemies to stand on the stairs, then torch them. Then they will go around the other way to reach you, so you can make a flame wall there, too. I got a shitload of spoils including a medal of bravery. And I feel like a genius lol game is good! I think Medals can only be in Exquisite Spoils so you always get them
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Hey https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1501686018755465216?t=sP2QBHiJkfteD1bG1hFjhw&s=19 Cool!
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Ha, if one of your units gets silenced they don't play their soundbites. That's adorable.
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Hammer Bro. posted:Why is it that I like the name Project: Triangle Strategy but not The DioField Chronicle? Project: Triangle Strategy is a boring title, but all of the parts are actual words, put together in a coherant order. It's calling your auto parts store "Bill's Auto Parts". Not pretty, but it gets the job done. The DioField chronicles, by contrast, just raises the question of what a DioField is.
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diofield deez chrons
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Gyoru posted:diofield deez chrons That just raises further questions!
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chiasaur11 posted:Project: Triangle Strategy is a boring title, but all of the parts are actual words, put together in a coherant order. It's calling your auto parts store "Bill's Auto Parts". Not pretty, but it gets the job done. worst of all, it looks like a typo of an actual word and for whatever reason my brain just hates those types of names
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chiasaur11 posted:Project: Triangle Strategy is a boring title, but all of the parts are actual words, put together in a coherant order. It's calling your auto parts store "Bill's Auto Parts". Not pretty, but it gets the job done. DioField means decent voice acting apparently.
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Ok, just finished the ending for the fredricka path. Glad it seems the game is committing to bummer endings. I cried a bit, but I cry at literally everything lol. Benedict becoming gustadolph's merciless right hand is real good imo
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Does anyone know of a source of silver in the game? One of my characters can't upgrade their weapon to level 2 and the merchants don't seem to be getting any new stock. I'm in chapter 18.
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Natural 20 posted:Does anyone know of a source of silver in the game? One of my characters can't upgrade their weapon to level 2 and the merchants don't seem to be getting any new stock. I'm in chapter 18. Hmm. I think the Sundry Merchant should have some more, he has a lot of everything at that point. If not you may have to wait one more chapter.
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Now that I finished a route, yeah this is a great game. While I would still describe it as "political intrigue 101" I think the story is a lot of fun and goes interesting places. The weakness is def on the character side. They feel too subdued, and while they may have interesting stuff going on like Geela revealing she only started to care about frederica during the course of the war these bits are hard to attached yourself too because everyone feels emotionally flat. One of the few characters who doesn't, dragan, ofc gets killed off lmao What I really like about this in regards to story is the battles. They find a good variety of reasons why it's not just war battle #17 and there are some great set pieces that just feel really dynamic.
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Do you not get the scout screen in new game plus at the sundry until the point you start unlocking optional characters like last time?
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You get it after completing ch 4
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Gotta say, the timing of unlocking character stories at Chapter 5 seems weird considering the poo poo going down then.
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I gotta say, whoever set up (ch. 14 spoilers) the Avlora fight at the fountain is genius and I cackled wildly when I realized what they wanted me to do. Doubly so when I noticed the recommended characters were Narve, Ezana, and Piccoletta. They knew exactly what they were doing  For added fun I brought Jens to make sure that even if someone escaped Piccoletta's poo poo Pit, they got punted right back in. EDIT: Serenoa's convictions have been strengthened.
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Novasol posted:I gotta say, whoever set up (ch. 14 spoilers) the Avlora fight at the fountain is genius and I cackled wildly when I realized what they wanted me to do. Doubly so when I noticed the recommended characters were Narve, Ezana, and Piccoletta. They knew exactly what they were doing Feel free to also toss Thunderstones using anyone with hands as well. The gridlock is only rivaled by the penultimate stage of Frederica's path, IMO.
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Mega64 posted:Gotta say, the timing of unlocking character stories at Chapter 5 seems weird considering the poo poo going down then. Yea it is weird, like someone came to join me all "I'm escaping the war" but it literally just began minutes ago?
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Levantine posted:Feel free to also toss Thunderstones using anyone with hands as well. The gridlock is only rivaled by the penultimate stage of Frederica's path, IMO. Oh, I did. It was glorious. One of the healers did an absolutely galaxy brain play though, stopping one tile in front of the spring trap setup, allowing the boss to brace against him and not get knocked back into the mess. A few zaps later, the healer died for his hubris and Roland shoved the boss right back into the deep end.
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