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Electric Sugar posted:I think the non-Helly employees have just gotten through their severance processing (with a little help from the break room), while we are watching her attempt to cope with everything from the beginning. Yeah the thing is even employees who seem 100% into the system talk about the break room like they've been there many times. These people have been broken.
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Electric Sugar posted:I think the non-Helly employees have just gotten through their severance processing (with a little help from the break room), while we are watching her attempt to cope with everything from the beginning. Even if the others went through a similar phase phase, trying to maim yourself and commit suicide on your third day of severed work seems to be on the extreme end of behavior.
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Mar 10, 2022 08:21
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It's probably not actually her third day. If it is then they're definitely rushing her through her plot points.Trabant posted:Please tell me what you do. Be lucky enough to work in something you value and care about. Maybe. These guys seem more like corporate employees that may as well be playing cookie clicker all day while looking busy, because the actual work is complete pointless bullshit.
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Mar 10, 2022 09:15
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I loving hate work of all kinds so working with something I actually like in normal life just makes me hate that as well. I would love a job where I could just shut my brain off and find the scary numbers, honestly.
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Oasx posted:Even if the others went through a similar phase phase, trying to maim yourself and commit suicide on your third day of severed work seems to be on the extreme end of behavior. I don't think it's her third day, I think it's been at least a week or two. And you have to remember that there's no breaks, at all, for the innie. The closest you get to a break from the madness is the walk through the hallways to/from the elevator. It's like being trapped in a weird cult 24/7, with no sleep and no meals, just snacks, while being psychologically attacked and broken by everything around you. I think a lot of people, especially strong willed ones (people with a strong sense of self determination? what do you call that? the fiercely independent?), would be broken by that pretty quickly.
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Mar 10, 2022 17:24
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Captain Monkey posted:I don't think it's her third day, I think it's been at least a week or two. And you have to remember that there's no breaks, at all, for the innie. The closest you get to a break from the madness is the walk through the hallways to/from the elevator. It's like being trapped in a weird cult 24/7, with no sleep and no meals, just snacks, while being psychologically attacked and broken by everything around you. I think a lot of people, especially strong willed ones (people with a strong sense of self determination? what do you call that? the fiercely independent?), would be broken by that pretty quickly.
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Mar 10, 2022 17:30
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JazzFlight posted:It's weird about the meal thing, like they specifically don't have lunch at work. The most they get (at least we're shown) is the vending machine snacks or a rare melon/waffle party. I wonder how much of that is about making sure that the severed workers can't affect the biology or metabolism of their surface counterparts?
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Mar 10, 2022 18:01
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Open Source Idiom posted:I wonder how much of that is about making sure that the severed workers can't affect the biology or metabolism of their surface counterparts? eating 10,000 calories a day so my outie gets real fat as a protest
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Mar 10, 2022 18:03
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itry posted:It's probably not actually her third day. If it is then they're definitely rushing her through her plot points. Sure, and I think I'm finally there with my current job. It actually feels like there is a Purpose to what I do this time around. But I'm still a salaried donkey, there's no real social net, and retirement is by no means certain. You better believe I'm going to extract as much money from this gigacorp at every opportunity.
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Trabant posted:Sure, and I think I'm finally there with my current job. It actually feels like there is a Purpose to what I do this time around. For sure. You're not a charity 
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JazzFlight posted:It's weird about the meal thing, like they specifically don't have lunch at work. The most they get (at least we're shown) is the vending machine snacks or a rare melon/waffle party. They do get lunch. One of mark's duties as team lead dealt with their lunches.
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Khanstant posted:definitely the biggest stretch here is thinking the innies would work at all. Outside of specific passions that coincide with capitalism, you do work because you are held hostage with consequences if you do not work, and you can get through the work knowing you will be paid for it and do the things with the money that you do like to do, maybe. Working is hard when you have diminished care for being alive even with normal compensation for labor but the motivation here for the innie is just work, or be tortured and when those are your two main options obviously suicide becomes the logical compromise. well if your innie does a poo poo job at the office and gets fired you essentially die so thats some motivation. i will say it certainly makes it easy for Lumens not to give many raises. The innie has no need for money and the outie has no way to asses whether they actually deserve a raise or not.
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The Nastier Nate posted:well if your innie does a poo poo job at the office and gets fired you essentially die so thats some motivation. I wonder how many severed workers refuse to leave work because of this.
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The Nastier Nate posted:well if your innie does a poo poo job at the office and gets fired you essentially die so thats some motivation. Mark seemed to notice that he had a new card when he came out in that one episode, but I doubt that comes with more money.
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Oasx posted:Even if the others went through a similar phase phase, trying to maim yourself and commit suicide on your third day of severed work seems to be on the extreme end of behavior. I dunno, three consecutive 8 hour shifts without a break and no end in sight is about when I'd consider self-harm.
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I don’t think they intended this to be a realistic experiment
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Just a heads up, Apple is putting up these episodes at like 9pm on Thursdays even though the air date is Friday. Just finished this weeks episode….it was great. poo poo is getting pretty crazy.
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Mahoning posted:Just a heads up, Apple is putting up these episodes at like 9pm on Thursdays even though the air date is Friday. This week’s was great and I like how weird it got.
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Mar 11, 2022 04:39
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I'm only about 10 minutes in to this week's episode, but I have to pause and say that every word Ricken writes or says is absolutely amazing.
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The guy who played Ricken is also great in patriot, it's on Amazon if you need more
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Mar 11, 2022 06:20
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Mark can never reintegrate because as soon as his two halves realize what the other thinks of Ricken and his book he'll do that nosebleed and die thing Petey did
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Duckwaffle posted:The guy who played Ricken is also great in patriot, it's on Amazon if you need more Cool Ricken!
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"What separates man from machine is that machines cannot think for themselves. Also, they are made of metal, whereas man is made of skin."
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Now I am getting really curious about outie Ellie's motivation. Who the hell goes back after waking up choking in the elevator? There has to be more to it than just a paycheck.
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Incredible episode, it seemed likely but I'm glad they all but explicitly stated that each department is fed the same bullshit stories about the other to keep them in fear of each other so they don't group together and unite in some kind of grouping that is more powerful than an individual due to the united power of their unified form... if only there was a word for that. Perhaps Ricken could suggest one?
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The entire Ricken quote montage was hilarious. I find I’m laughing more and more at this show as it goes on. Despite the show getting darker and darker. Dylan is loving hilarious.
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Yeah, I can see why they cast comedian character actors in a lot of the roles, like Adam Scott, Britt Lower and Zac Cherry.
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Scott was a lead for a long time. He’s pretty good.
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SimonChris posted:Now I am getting really curious about outie Ellie's motivation. Who the hell goes back after waking up choking in the elevator? There has to be more to it than just a paycheck. Risky game to play by not letting your innie know, though.
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"Hey kids, what's for dinner?" kids == baby goats In(dust)ry. Inry. So true, Ricken. Also I TOTALLY CALLED IT  w.r.t. the book pinching being an outside source of friction and confusion. Ricken was still whinging on about it during the kelp hanging.So if I make a prediction about the show and it turns out to be wrong, it'll be devastating, but it'll just mean that the show itself was wrong.
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eke out posted:what's up with the goats though? good lord Yeah, that I didn't like. I have faith in this show, but the goats reminded me of polar bears in Lost. In Lost, it was just something that was added to be weird and then they had to come up an unsatisfying explanation. Fingers crossed that they are never explained or if they are it isn't silly.
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Another great episode. I wonder what the point of Mark's sister meeting the rich lady was? The man outside didn't respond to her and wandered off. Maybe he's severed on the outside or something? There could be a totally mundane explanation for that but since the entire sequence is really the first scene we've had not including a severed worker or discussing them, it must play in somehow. We'll probably be seeing that rich lady again, maybe she works for/with Lumen in some way. First thing I thought of with the goats was that they were lambs, and 'lambs to the slaughter' as an analogy for the severed workers, but that felt clumsy and stupid. But since they are goats, I am thinking about some kind of satanic sacrifice. I hope it's neither of those really, but whatever. I don't mind if it is never explained. Ms Casey became much more interesting to me this week. She was just a symbol of Lumen's evil before, but now we see that she isn't just that. She is capable of being tricked and freaked out, she even seemed naive in a Data from TNG kind of way, as opposed to a corporate automaton kind of way. My hunch is she'll end up aligning with the innies at some point, maybe she is one herself. Maybe she's never allowed to leave. There was a bit of an explanation as to why the innies are allowed to gently caress around so much - Cobel is watching them and letting it happen, even facilitating it. That's good. It might not account for everything, but it gives the show more leeway for now. I thought it was funny that Mark was saying to Hellie they removed all the dangerous stuff from the office when forks and knives were clearly visible in the background of the shot. Lumen really isn't that thorough. roomtone fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Mar 11, 2022 |
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roomtone posted:I thought it was funny that Mark was saying to Hellie they removed all the dangerous stuff from the office when forks and knives were clearly visible in the background of the shot. Lumen really isn't that thorough.
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Ricken's book is so good. I want to read it. Even if the show ends up being disappointing over all, it will have been worthwhile for giving us those excerpts. 
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Adam Scott looked like he was on the verge of breaking for most of the kind eyes scene and it was real good
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JazzFlight posted:I’ve been thinking that her outie is specifically trying to infiltrate Lumon as part of the “rebellion” or investigative journalism or something and they just haven’t revealed it to us yet. I'm speculating that she's actually top brass, maybe one of the Lumon board or even a member of the founding family, and she's undergoing being severed as some kind of weird "I did it myself and it was perfectly fine, how do you do, fellow poors!?!" The monstrous way she treated her innie, straight up telling her,"You're not a person, I am," kind of seems in line with that privileged/corporate attitude, but maybe that's just a sad indictment of the way a lot of the outies feel about their work selves? God, I love this series.
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Maybe, but that doesn't jive with the whole intro she gets when going in for the procedure. Also, she drives a lovely car like mark does in the first episode.
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Cojawfee posted:Maybe, but that doesn't jive with the whole intro she gets when going in for the procedure. Also, she drives a lovely car like mark does in the first episode. Maybe she's the Greg the Egg of the Eagan family and has to successfully do like a year of being severed to get into the inner circle!
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