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BrotherJayne posted:https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1502075497991348226 I'm the loose poo poo flying off that guy at every drop.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The Kremlin is increasingly desperate, because apparently they bet the house of Ukraine just rolling over and surrendering in front of the martial might of Russia. It turns out the forces they brought were completely undersized and underequipped to wage offensive war against an opponent the size of Ukraine. I get all that. I don't understand how Russian troops attacking Belarus translates to Belarus attacking Ukraine. Belarus already told Russia no. Belarus does not have the communication constraints that the Russian population has, so they will know Russia is attacking them. ("They" being the public of Belarus) This only works from the perspective of the Russian citizen. Putin and the military leadership know that it is Belarus that needs to be "persuaded". They aren't even attempting to make it look like a Ukrainian operation. This plan only works in a vacuum that is controlled. People calling the shots know the situation is not under control. It is like someone started executing a plan two weeks to late.
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M_Gargantua posted:https://twitter.com/TsybulskaLiubov/status/1501862686396661764?t=hhm4x9sIxopzc-LRZIHSug&s=19 I mean, I know life goes on and all that but who is looking to buy apartments while the war rages on just down the road.
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Jimlit posted:I'm the loose poo poo flying off that guy at every drop. I wonder if he noticed the magazine flying out in front of him. Also, complete conjecture based off of nothing other than their loving around with all the reactors they come across. They don't want to drop a nuclear bomb (for now, who really knows) but they would be totally fine with a nuclear accident being an excuse to abandon the invasion (they can sell it at home as sabotage by some Ukrainian instead of their own actions, plus "we didn't lose, we quit").
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Arrath posted:I mean, I know life goes on and all that but who is looking to buy apartments while the war rages on just down the road. If it’s anything like here, Chinese and Israeli slumlords.
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What makes Glenn even worse is he simps for a person who would probably enjoy him being killed simply for being gay. He’s like a Kapo.
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Stultus Maximus posted:If it’s anything like here, Chinese and Israeli slumlords. Oh right. The perverse influence of capital, how could I forget. Just waiting for concrete spalled and pockmarked with bullet holes and shell fragments to be the new urban chic in trendy converted warehouses.
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ASAPI posted:I get all that. Also, a big chunk of the Belarusian public follows mostly Russian media, so they might actually still buy the "limited crusade against the drug-addled Ukrainian homo-nazis" story.
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https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1502315019706552322?t=o81M9aB_ZdxmdzaEReJY5Q&s=19 Really hope this doesn't come to pass but there it is. Also Russia's MFA is now loudly saying Ukraine with the help of US Special forces is getting ready to carry out chemical weapons attacks against civilians in Ukraine to blame on Russia. And if you believe that, I believe you might also be interested in reading a certain gentleman from Brazil's substack.
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Handsome Ralph posted:https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1502315019706552322?t=o81M9aB_ZdxmdzaEReJY5Q&s=19 So Belarus is looking at Russia’s imploded economy and thinking “I want some of that?”
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With the extreme levels of competence already seen in the Russian army, I can't wait to see them accidentally gas their entire army when they forget to check which way the winds are blowing.
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Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/jackdetsch/status/1502317483776217099?s=21
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Liquid Communism posted:Most of that bullshit is likely for internal consumption. The popular Russian opinion seems to be pretty anti-Putin at this point. Like, obviously there's a big motivated faction of Russians protesting, but that was even true in the US in response to an Iraq war that the median American was pretty supportive of, and this feels like it goes a lot deeper than that. This is obviously just anecdotal, but among the Russian half of my extended family the attitude is pretty universally anti-war and anti-Putin, even among people who were pretty pro-Putin up until a few weeks ago. I was expecting a bunch of "gently caress the US for sanctioning us" nationalist blame-shifting, but that's apparently not how they're reading the situation within Russia (at least among anyone I have a line of contact with).
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Stultus Maximus posted:So Belarus is looking at Russia’s imploded economy and thinking “I want some of that?” That is why I am having such a hard time wrapping my head around this "plan". We decimated the Russian economy in hours, no other country wants a slice of that pie.
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Tired: Belarusian troops invading Ukraine Wired: Chemical weapons
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Arrath posted:I mean, I know life goes on and all that but who is looking to buy apartments while the war rages on just down the road. Depending on the exchange rate I could see myself buying some waterfront Crimea property this month? Will that deed actually be viable in two years? Who knows.
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McNally posted:How many of them even have bayonets? And were trained on how to use the wire cutter? They're super easy to use on the Russian ones, you pass the "nubbin" on the scabbard through the hole on the bayonet tip, and then they work like shears
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I read elsewhere that a false flag is less probable than Russia having lovely targeting and hit Belarus by mistake.
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Considering Putin is a Cold Warrior who might have thought he'd die in a MAD salvo in the 80s I'm not like, super optimistic that this dude will back anything down and sincerely hope I am wrong 
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psydude posted:Tired: Belarusian troops invading Ukraine Tired: tanker crews Wired: various models of Russian and Western ATGM
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Jimlit posted:I'm the loose poo poo flying off that guy at every drop. it's called battle rattle cuz that's the noise it makes when it falls off onto the hardtop
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psydude posted:Tired: Belarusian troops invading Ukraine Galaxy Brain: Russia blowing up Chernobyl as a false flag. That they've held for like a week. So everybody knows they are there and in charge.
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This is perhaps the best take I've seen on the conflict. Yuval Noah Harari on the Ukraine War "Human Stupidity Should Never Be Underestimated" https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...c7-803f55cc1769
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maffew buildings posted:Considering Putin is a Cold Warrior who might have thought he'd die in a MAD salvo in the 80s I'm not like, super optimistic that this dude will back anything down and sincerely hope I am wrong I'm not as concerned. I halfheartedly expect Putie to do a walk around of some missiles for propaganda and it's mistakenly revealed that they're cardboard mockups. They're handing out decade expired MREs and have egg carton armor. Their infantry moves like a pack of 12 year olds playing paintball. They're giving Mosins to separatists. I would honestly be surprised if any of their ICBM crews could operate an Estes model set. Besides, if MAD happens, it won't matter for long. Maybe the southern hemisphere will survive when nuclear winter and global warming collide.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:This is perhaps the best take I've seen on the conflict. paywalled. what's the gist of it?
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Farking Bastage posted:Does anyone else see the irony in how we call the russian billionaires oligarchs, yet spare that term of endearment for the likes of Jeff Bezos?
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BrotherJayne posted:https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1502075497991348226 I never thought i'd start to feel bad for these guys but here we are.
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HolHorsejob posted:paywalled. what's the gist of it? Don't underestimate stupidity.
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BrotherJayne posted:They're super easy to use on the Russian ones, you pass the "nubbin" on the scabbard through the hole on the bayonet tip, and then they work like shears Yeah, same as ours, but my point is how many of them know that? How many of them even have bayonets?
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Much of russia's organs have been affected. FSB is intact. Correction: https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1502345408365748225?t=lNm6IS5wGcj04s8tBGidTg&s=19 Guy is translating from a Meduza article, here: https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/1...atsii-v-ukraine ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 11, 2022 |
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Handsome Ralph posted:https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1502315019706552322?t=o81M9aB_ZdxmdzaEReJY5Q&s=19 Has this happened yet?
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McNally posted:Yeah, same as ours, but my point is how many of them know that? How many of them even have bayonets? It's academic anyway since they clearly can't figure out they shouldn't be following roads
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Say, question. I've been reading through this article since it was posted a while ago, and something seemed to stand out to me. It's describing the Russian logistical system as heavily rail-based, with a relatively short range once it needs to rely on trucks. It also notes the enormous logistical requirements of its artillery, which I've seen referred to elsewhere as best in class and heavily focused on in the Russian army. Wouldn't all this add up to make the Russian army uniquely ill-suited for offensive warfare outside its borders? It feels like the combination of "We need a huge logistical tail to make use of our strengths" and "We don't have one outside our rail lines" is a particularly bad mix. Am I missing something? Is the logistical demand of massed artillery not as heavy as it seems from the article, comparable to any other given military unit? Or is the Russian Army just fundamentally designed to operate on the strategic defensive?
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Tomn posted:Say, question. I've been reading through this article since it was posted a while ago, and something seemed to stand out to me. It's describing the Russian logistical system as heavily rail-based, with a relatively short range once it needs to rely on trucks. It also notes the enormous logistical requirements of its artillery, which I've seen referred to elsewhere as best in class and heavily focused on in the Russian army. Wouldn't all this add up to make the Russian army uniquely ill-suited for offensive warfare outside its borders? It feels like the combination of "We need a huge logistical tail to make use of our strengths" and "We don't have one outside our rail lines" is a particularly bad mix. Am I missing something? Is the logistical demand of massed artillery not as heavy as it seems from the article, comparable to any other given military unit? Or is the Russian Army just fundamentally designed to operate on the strategic defensive? At this point many of us are no longer sure what the Russian army was designed to do. Logistical demands on artillery is theoretically lower since they don't need as much fuel, since they are moving as much. I am sure that "extra capacity" is filled by the large (both in amount and in size) ammunition needs. From what I have been able to determine, the Russian logistical range is roughly "one tank of gas".
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Rommel at least made it halfway across Africa before running out of gas. Putin made it down the block.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Correction: Looks like purges are back on the menu, boys!
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Tomn posted:Say, question. I've been reading through this article since it was posted a while ago, and something seemed to stand out to me. It's describing the Russian logistical system as heavily rail-based, with a relatively short range once it needs to rely on trucks. It also notes the enormous logistical requirements of its artillery, which I've seen referred to elsewhere as best in class and heavily focused on in the Russian army. Wouldn't all this add up to make the Russian army uniquely ill-suited for offensive warfare outside its borders? It feels like the combination of "We need a huge logistical tail to make use of our strengths" and "We don't have one outside our rail lines" is a particularly bad mix. Am I missing something? Is the logistical demand of massed artillery not as heavy as it seems from the article, comparable to any other given military unit? Or is the Russian Army just fundamentally designed to operate on the strategic defensive? Is this a rhetorical question? Because you're right. Moscow's logistical organisation has been underdimensioned since the 50's* and they will never bother fixing it *century undetermined
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psydude posted:Rommel at least made it halfway across Africa before running out of gas. Putin made it down the block. Rememeber the goon who thought he could hike across America and made it halfway into a state park before failing utterly?
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