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DalaranJ posted:No, he’s trying to give everyone else cover. Yeah, Stantis is solely concerned with hoping and praying that republicans go back to using dogwhistles. That's the long and short of it. He's fine with the racism and the misogyny and the LGBT-phobia, he just doesn't like when his side actually admits it.
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the_steve posted:Yeah, Stantis is solely concerned with hoping and praying that republicans go back to using dogwhistles. That's the long and short of it. He's fine with the racism and the misogyny and the LGBT-phobia, he just doesn't like when his side actually admits it. don't say gay, but also don't say don't say gay
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 Guardian:  "Ben Jennings on the Mariupol hospital bombing – Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy condemned a Russian attack on a children’s hospital in Mariupol as ‘genocide’"   Bonus! Are you a potential Guardian cartoonist? Telegraph:  Roman Abramovich sanctioned throwing future of Chelsea into turmoil Independent:  Pentagon rejects Poland’s surprise offer of MiG-29 fighter jets for use by Ukraine Times:  Bonus! Morland's animated cartoon. Evening Standard:  Britain warns Putin over chemical weapons as Ukraine raises alarm on Chernobyl
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Twelve by Pies posted:I actually kind of like this Bok. I hate to say that, but it admits that Biden isn't actually implementing the Green New Deal and is actually not supporting anyone that's slightly left of him. It's a refreshing factual statement in contrast to all the "Biden is the greatest communist in history" from every other right winger. That's pretty mean - this thread ends December 31.
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kartikeya posted:Oh gently caress off, Rall. People have been protesting Iraq and Afghanistan for two loving decades, but I suppose it's
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Put that Rall in the dictionary for the entry on Whataboutism. loving tool.
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the_steve posted:Yeah, Stantis is solely concerned with hoping and praying that republicans go back to using dogwhistles. That's the long and short of it. He's fine with the racism and the misogyny and the LGBT-phobia, he just doesn't like when his side actually admits it. Right, it’s important to remember that ‘Stantis Land’ is a lie he’s trying to sell us, not what he really believes.
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All the way from 2018:Discendo Vox posted:Fluggennock and Rall are literally propagandists working in service to a hostile foreign power. When you engage with the text of propaganda and not its context, the propagandist succeeds. Like Stonetoss, the point of consideration for every comic by them should be “how is this designed to convince Americans to harm ourselves or give up on politics?” Frequently, the intention is to sow internal discord and cynical detachment from civic discourse. Universally, the intention is to target you, the reader.
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Neito posted:I was like 90% sure that it's just the (what, 50? 75 year?) pension funding requirement that did that, but hedged my bets. Yeah they had to fund all potential pension costs for a full 75 years instead of the normal pay as you go method. Literally no pension or retirement fund operates like this because its would crush any organization doing it. So each year after the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 passed suddenly the postal service was posting huge loses and defaulting on its payments because it’s simply insane to do something like that. But then right wing assholes got to point to the post office as the government failing at running something efficiently
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"Reading the room is bad" is exactly the kind of take I'd expect from Leunig.
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Trapezium Dave posted:First Dog on the Moon: All the cool kids are talking about State Capture – it's everywhere and you don't want it A learned fact: The Australian system of electoral financing is just as bad and corrupt as the American system of electoral financing. (Incidentally, is there any public funding of elections in Australia?) A known fact: Campaign financing reform, unfortunately, is such a dry and tedious issue that both Australians and Americans would rather cut their arms off than listen to a discussion about it.
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Discendo Vox posted:All the way from 2018: This post made me curious what Flugennock has been up to since the Russian invasion and the answer is, well, nothing. His last political cartoon that I saw on his blog was from February 21st, and it was just a lame "USA skeleton at the Olympics" thing. Maybe he has some standards and decided "gently caress it, I'm not doing Russian propaganda for free," unlike Rall and Garrison. Not saying that's what's happening, just that it's at least possible from the looks of it.
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NDP posted:(Incidentally, is there any public funding of elections in Australia?)
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Trapezium Dave posted:Leunig: For a guy who posts so much about it, I don’t think Leunig has ever touched grass
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So Russia is cut off from the world and gas prices have gone way up, so to try to mitigate that Biden’s going to these other places to get oil, but that’s a bad thing to do because what he’s supposed to just make it appear out of thin air or something?
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Murdstone posted:So Russia is cut off from the world and gas prices have gone way up, so to try to mitigate that Biden’s going to these other places to get oil, but that’s a bad thing to do because what he’s supposed to just make it appear out of thin air or something?  See that one labeled "Gas Prices"? He's supposed to push it to "low" rather than pulling it to "high".
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Murdstone posted:So Russia is cut off from the world and gas prices have gone way up, so to try to mitigate that Biden’s going to these other places to get oil, but that’s a bad thing to do because what he’s supposed to just make it appear out of thin air or something?
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Jedit posted:You reminded me of the origin of the stopped clock metaphor, which was Lewis Carroll. In one of his finer combinations of mathematical logic and absurdism Carroll asserted that a clock stopped at eight o'clock was more useful than a clock that gained a minute every hour, because a clock that gained a minute would be right only once every two years whereas the stopped clock is right twice a day. I appreciate the anecdote, and after reading it, thought to think up an approprate application for this thread, but in every scenario, Rall is still the worst cartoonist. A precious few can be taken at face value; I trust that First Dog and Ruben Bolling are right on the money, because when they speak on matters I do understand, they've never been wrong. They're good clocks. For most thread regulars, you can usually arrive at a reasonable conclusion by assuming the exact opposite of what they're saying is true. Not quite as accurate, but you can tell, for example, that Jen Psaki dunked on some JAQ-off reporter whenever Branco makes a cartoon of her looking like a defeated bridge troll, or that administration offered a measure of support when all of them switched from "Biden is a coward" to "Biden is a warmonger" overnight. Ben Garrison is a good barometer for what is going on in the deep chud mediasphere, the real fringe poo poo that even Fox News won't touch. Like there have been tweets going around about how Dan Bongino and Ben Shapiro's social media presence sharply dropped when Russia got the heavy sanctions, and his cries of a "media blackout" tells me that this also hits all the nazi news that doesn't get boosted into our faces by YouTube and Twitter. Bennett and Horsey are always good for a moderate or radical liberal take, respectively, which offers insight into the two biggest voting demographics. Even absolute say-nothings like Fishman and Stantis model the complex levels of self-deception you need to be a "moderate" Republicans. Ishida offers a full and complete overview of the "Ironic" Sexist -> Male Feminist -> TERF -> Fascist pipeline. But Rall? What can one learn of the world from reading a Ted Rall cartoon? How would one correct it for bias? If you take away "everything everyone does is equally bad and only Ted Rall deserves to be in charge" and "never directly criticize Trump/Russia," what is left? I genuinely cannot think of a single thing I've learned from a Ted Rall cartoon, and I'm a guy who can find meaning in Prickly City if pressed.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Because the NatSec ghouls Ramirez takes marching orders from really want war with Venezuela and Iran. All other concerns secondary. Refer to the Vox post a few pages up. Ramirez is unlikely to take marching orders from "NatSec ghouls". Based on his publication history (which has moved around over time) and his background in conventional journalism, plus his history of press appearances, he seems like someone with a specific editorial style who is just marinated in and believes conventional paleoconservative talking points, right out of the 80s-90s Reaganite/dittohead era. Right now the person who's technically paying his bills is Sheldon Adelson, iirc.
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They're also mad that he isn't amping up drilling for our pure, local North American oil  .
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Ted Rall believes only in Ted Rall; that's it. Right and wrong begin and end in his world solely as it relates to himself, Ted Rall.
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Apple Pie Hubbub posted:
This is because Ramirez is nearly as bad at dialogue/cartoon layout as Branco. English has someone reading left to right, top to bottom. Your eye automatically goes to the right blurb first because it's at the top. Your eye shifts immediately to the middle one because you're automatically looking one line down and back to the left, and then your attention drops down to the bottom. It feels awkward to read both ways, because it's not how our eyes are trained to read things. Nothing about the actual cartoon helps this, Biden's not what draws attention first and rando Gerald down there certainly isn't doing that either. I have no idea why the plane, which should be background and not the most detailed and colorful thing in the picture, is taking up half the page while also occupying the exact center of the cartoon with a door carrying the presidential seal where at least one of these dipshits should be standing, but Ramirez is a loving hack. This is better if the two Geralds swap dialogue (although still terrible), or would alternatively work just fine if the offramp were front facing and the trio were centered where their boring rear end (in comparison) color scheme would at least be the first thing people look at. Probably. Hell, I hold that 90% of Ramirez cartoons would be vastly improved if he just zoomed the gently caress in. 
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kartikeya posted:This is because Ramirez is nearly as bad at dialogue/cartoon layout as Branco. English has someone reading left to right, top to bottom. Your eye automatically goes to the right blurb first because it's at the top. Your eye shifts immediately to the middle one because you're automatically looking one line down and back to the left, and then your attention drops down to the bottom. It feels awkward to read both ways, because it's not how our eyes are trained to read things. Nothing about the actual cartoon helps this, Biden's not what draws attention first and rando Gerald down there certainly isn't doing that either. I have no idea why the plane, which should be background and not the most detailed and colorful thing in the picture, is taking up half the page while also occupying the exact center of the cartoon with a door carrying the presidential seal where at least one of these dipshits should be standing, but Ramirez is a loving hack. This is better if the two Geralds swap dialogue (although still terrible), or would alternatively work just fine if the offramp were front facing and the trio were centered where their boring rear end (in comparison) color scheme would at least be the first thing people look at. Probably. 6 hours drawing the plane, 6 min for the rest
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Barrel Cactaur posted:6 hours drawing the plane, 6 min for the rest Is the plane DEBT?
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Nick Anderson Clay Bennett  Stuart Carlson  Jeff Danziger  Matt Davies  John Deering  Al Goodwyn  Walt Handelsman  Clay Jones  KAL  Steve Kelley  Gary Markstein  Henry Payne   Rob Rogers  Drew Sheneman  Jeff Stahler  Dana Summers  Tony Branco  quote:On Bended Knees Biden is begging for oil from dictators after shutting down America’s main energy sources.
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Everyone in this cartoon looks extremely happy with their new giant vroom vroom, I can only conclude that Payne approves.
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They really don't understand pipelines do they
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Vib Rib posted:They really don't understand pipelines do they They really, truly don't. All day long at work, I have to listen to coworkers go on about how gas was practically being given away under Trump and how the pipeline was giving us infinity gallons of fuel all the time forever.
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Vib Rib posted:They really don't understand pipelines do they Or how global commodities are traded in a capitalist system.
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And again, the Keystone pipeline was never shut down. The only thing Obama stopped was the Keystone XL, which Trump approved the building of when he was in office, but only 8% of the thing was built before Biden stopped it again. XL was never operational at any point, so it very obviously wasn't necessary for the low gas prices we had under Trump, so Biden stopping its construction is clearly not to blame for the current prices.
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I also like how they are screaming that shutting down the Keystone XL construction is reducing or eliminating our energy independence. Yes, the Keystone XL pipeline would be 100% domestic energy...with most of it coming from Canada, apparently the newest state? When in reality it would be just more oil revenue flowing out to evil dictators like Justin Trudeau!
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Kit Walker posted:For a guy who posts so much about it, I don’t think Leunig has ever touched grass You can absolutely tell that he got told 'Read the room dude' when he went off on an antivax spiel, and this is the immediate result. "NO I WILL NOT READ THE ROOM, THAT'S ONLY FOR DUMB IDIOTS"
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I know we are well into the Carmen runs as a libertarian arc, but I got to say, I love how this is an replay of the same arc from 2016, with the exact same "jokes". Why would you write your political cartoon as a narrative if you have no interest in telling a story of any kind. Sinfest is bigoted dream logic gibberish, but at to Ishida's extremely limited credit, he at least is trying to say something. Stantis may be the laziest and most indifferent cartoonist posted here, even including Gorrell.
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Guardian:  "Martin Rowson: the Putinful game – More than two weeks after the invasion of Ukraine, the UK imposed sanctions on Chelsea’s owner over his links to Vladimir Putin" Telegraph:  China's Xi calls for 'maximum restraint' in Ukraine Independent:  After Van Gogh. The i paper:  Times:  Stephen Collins: 
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