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I'm going to buy a TeslaTap rated for 80A when I finally get my Lightning. Tesla destination chargers tend to supply much more power than the J1772 ones. Lookin' forward to Tesla owners giving me the evil eye at hotels.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I'm going to buy a TeslaTap rated for 80A when I finally get my Lightning. Tesla destination chargers tend to supply much more power than the J1772 ones. My understanding, talking to a few property owners, is that Tesla would provide you the chargers at no cost if you wired them up at your location, and frequently they'd throw in a Clipper Creek J1772 station too. This is why some of the Tesla "destination charger" locations also have J1772 EVSEs.
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Can someone who is smarter than me explain what you hardwire to? Is it something like directly hardwiring to a Grizzl-E or what? I feel lost on this. I don't have an EV yet but am exploring my options and we do have a 200A panel with space for a 50 amp breaker
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DoubleT2172 posted:Can someone who is smarter than me explain what you hardwire to? Is it something like directly hardwiring to a Grizzl-E or what? I feel lost on this. I don't have an EV yet but am exploring my options and we do have a 200A panel with space for a 50 amp breaker When we say "hardwire" we mean "the wires in the wall go directly into the EVSE". As opposed to "the wires in the wall go into an outlet in the wall, and you plug the EVSE into the outlet". Basically we mean "no electrical outlet".
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Mar 10, 2022 21:36
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I'm going to buy a TeslaTap rated for 80A when I finally get my Lightning. Tesla destination chargers tend to supply much more power than the J1772 ones. That won't work at superchargers though right? Those are still Tesla only?
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Mar 10, 2022 22:39
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Chin Strap posted:That won't work at superchargers though right? Those are still Tesla only? They are DC. The TeslaTap only works for AC. Tesla is, by all accounts, working on something that will adapt their DC L3 "superchargers" to a CCS plug. That would make it possible for cruft jr to drive home from college on the Interstate instead of the back road. The Tesla plug carries either AC or DC, at about half the area of a J1772. It is a really nice plug, and it's a shame we wound up with CCS instead. But at least there's one country-wide standard. This could have ended much, much worse. e: none of the drawings show the plugs to scale, so here's Tesla's CCS adapter. The Tesla plug is sticking out the back there. 
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Mar 10, 2022 22:43
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We're CCS1. It remains to be seen what Tesla's going to do with their Superchargers once they open them up. Will they add second cables or hand out adapters to customers who want to use their chargers?
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Mar 10, 2022 22:48
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Nfcknblvbl posted:We're CCS1. Yeah I keep typing CCS2 and then having to go edit it back out when I remember. You caught me before I remembered.
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Mar 10, 2022 22:51
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Nfcknblvbl posted:We're CCS1. I assume it has to be adapters, because they need a tesla way to identify the vehicle for billing. I suspect it'll be an adapter no less than $750 that you have to tie a credit card to. And it will always be out of stock anyway.
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Mar 10, 2022 22:56
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Qwijib0 posted:I assume it has to be adapters, because they need a tesla way to identify the vehicle for billing. I suspect it'll be an adapter no less than $750 that you have to tie a credit card to. And it will always be out of stock anyway. It's difficult to envision this being deployed any other way. I'm going with $150-$300 though.
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Mar 10, 2022 22:59
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Tesla should have ripped the band-aid off by making the North American Model 3 CCS like they had done in Europe. Oh well.
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Just had the electrician out, everything looks easy and the install should not be very expensive. Hardest part will be getting the breaker apparently they're in short supply. Looking at 48A units I am narrowed down to the chargepoint flex (which can be installed hardwired or comes with a plug for lower currents) or the Juicebox 48. Any recommendations either way or both good/bad? The Juicebox does have the longer lead time (6-8 wk vs 2-3) but time isn't a huge factor, not getting the car til the fall anyway most likely.
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The Tesla plug is so superior to J1772 or CCS1 it should be mandated instead. Or if we must change, everyone should switch to MCS and have it be done forever.
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Indiana_Krom posted:The Tesla plug is so superior to J1772 or CCS1 it should be mandated instead. Or if we must change, everyone should switch to MCS and have it be done forever. They can't do 800V since the DC pins are close enough for arcing.
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Yeah, I mean, the Tesla connector is the Apple Lightning connector of the EV world. It's an older design that was done really well and lasted a really long time as a result, but ultimately it's been superceded. And just like Apple it seems Tesla is going to really drag their heels adopting the newer standard. So we'll have to put up with adapters for a long, long time. I'm an optimist but this really could have been worse. I mean, just look at how many standards there are around the world for AC wall power. The entire planet managed to settle on only two standards for EV charging, and the two standards are (mostly) separated by oceans. e: okay, four standards, but the other two are in like 5 countries total. Granted, one of those countries is China...
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Friend(who when I sold my Jeep to buy a Tesla gave me endless amount of poo poo about it) called me last night asking if I had any regrets about doing it. Of course not, asked him why? Well, the F250 that he just got a few months ago, after trading in his F150 because he needed a bigger vehicle to tow his Jeep with, now costs him over $150 to fill up since diesel is approaching $5/gal and he drives 50-60 miles a day so now he's considering getting a Tesla lol
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Qwijib0 posted:That's annoyingly close to being able to carry a sheet of 4x8 plywood. Forgot to reply, it was specifically engineered to fit 2 Euro pallets. I wonder if the US version might be slightly wider. mattfl posted:Friend(who when I sold my Jeep to buy a Tesla gave me endless amount of poo poo about it) called me last night asking if I had any regrets about doing it. Of course not, asked him why? Well, the F250 that he just got a few months ago, after trading in his F150 because he needed a bigger vehicle to tow his Jeep with, now costs him over $150 to fill up since diesel is approaching $5/gal and he drives 50-60 miles a day so now he's considering getting a Tesla lol
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mattfl posted:Friend(who when I sold my Jeep to buy a Tesla gave me endless amount of poo poo about it) called me last night asking if I had any regrets about doing it. Of course not, asked him why? Well, the F250 that he just got a few months ago, after trading in his F150 because he needed a bigger vehicle to tow his Jeep with, now costs him over $150 to fill up since diesel is approaching $5/gal and he drives 50-60 miles a day so now he's considering getting a Tesla lol Why is he towing the Jeep instead of just driving it? Anyway, at least he is towing something with his 250 truck. I see so many 150/250/350 trucks in lots around here were you know the heaviest thing it has ever hauled is groceries.
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I put a down-payment on a Bolt today. Thoughts: The extra power over a Leaf really shows One pedal driving is awesome The climate controls are really nice, sleek and modern but still tactile The seats suck The interior looks really nice, but feels much cheaper than the Leaf The EUV version looks pretty The LT2 package seems pretty good, besides lack of ACC. Leaf+ was enough more than the Bolt to largely cancel out the tax credit, plus bad availability near me, and literally no colors but grey and white, and lack of cooling on a 64 kWh pack canceled out the nicer interior and slightly higher cost to edge the Bolt out in front. I don't really like the look of the gen2 Leaf or Bolt nearly as much as I do the Gen1 Leaf. Considered a used SR Model 3, but decided against paying more for a used car, and I hate the all touchscreen controls, the big advantage of much faster DCFC doesn't matter to me since it won't be useful to me in the near future. Dealer gave me a "gently caress you we don't want your loving car" quote on trade-in (60% of market value), which is going to be a hassle. I'm gonna miss my Leaf, I love this little car, and have half-considered hair-brained schemes like converting to 64kW. Good thing I'll get to drive it for ~unknown amount of time~ while they wait for a new battery fire the Bolt. I mis-typed "for" up there, but that's too good a typo to fix.
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I'd love if they put the Supercruise into the regular Bolt. In a normal market I get I could get one l for a bargain thanks to the recall.  Edit: yeah the seats might be a deal breaker, though I've lost a lot of weight since the last time I tried them. Weird as GM should be capable of normal seats.
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It sounds like they've updated them somewhat for 2022, I'm 6'4 and 260, and I fit fine, it's just all the support and padding just feels lovely and off, not super bad, I actually really like the seats in my Leaf, the bolster padding and fabric have held up with 0 visible wear, which is impressive considering my giant rear end tends to destroy hip bolsters. Speaking of, I'm maxed out back/low in the drivers seat on the Bolt, as I am in almost every car, but the ergonomics are fine, and the telescoping steering wheel is a huge plus (don't know if this is a base Leaf vs. Base+1 Bolt thing though) I'm still baffled by people that complain about the Leaf's interior quality, at 40k miles it's all tight, and, amazingly, 100% free of squeaks and other nuisance noise, which is essential on an EV considering there's no NVH at all to drown out noise. E: also I do think they're a relative bargain, they're cheaper than even a Leaf+, and everything else in the field is 50k+. The car market's just hyper inflated due to the chip shortage and everything else is insanely expensive.
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Indiana_Krom posted:Why is he towing the Jeep instead of just driving it? The v8 he put in it with the 40” tires he runs aren’t the best combination for all the highway he has to drive to get to places to actually use it lol. It’s def not a daily driver Jeep anymore.
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have some high-production porn: https://youtu.be/JxuB4H6uCq8 mattfl posted:The v8 he put in it with the 40” tires he runs aren’t the best combination for all the highway he has to drive to get to places to actually use it lol. It’s def not a daily driver Jeep anymore. speaking of Jeeps I parked behind a 4xe the other day. Really wish those came in 2-door
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Looking more into Kia Niro EV: How important would the "cold weather package" (heat-pump and battery heater) be to someone in Massachusetts?
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Harveygod posted:Looking more into Kia Niro EV: How important would the "cold weather package" (heat-pump and battery heater) be to someone in Massachusetts? holmes if you have to ask then you haven’t been here long enough
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Ok Comboomer posted:holmes if you have to ask then you haven’t been here long enough or theyre a hardo
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Harveygod posted:Looking more into Kia Niro EV: How important would the "cold weather package" (heat-pump and battery heater) be to someone in Massachusetts? Let me put it this way: I live in northern New Mexico and I'd be an idiot to not get it here.
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Ok Comboomer posted:have some high-production porn: I just wanted to post that. The cinematography is off the charts, is Lucid paying all the production costs or something? The car definitely looks cool and futuristic and not in the dumb way the way a Tesla does. But it felt like he skipped over any details one might be interested in, but maybe that's because it's not intended as a review.
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Can I trust the mileage estimate in my EV6 better than I could my 2015 leaf? On the leaf it was always called the guessometer because it was nowhere near reliable.
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How would we know? You tell us. Also it's called the guessometer on every car because boomers think it's clever.
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The estimated range in a Tesla's energy app is really accurate especially if you have a destination set in navigation, but the range indicator on the main screen that is based off the EPA efficiency is complete garbage and nobody should use it ever (use battery percentage instead). Elon Musk once said 300 miles of range is enough for any EV, and I would agree with him if he qualified it with "In 10 degree Fahrenheit weather, on damp or wet pavement, into a 30 MPH headwind, at 75 MPH". I would rather have a range guesstimate meter base its assumptions off those kinds of worst case conditions than one that bases them off perfect weather and back country road speeds. People would be much happier if the car told them it had 60 miles of range left and went 100 miles in summer than they would be if the car said it had 100 miles of range left and went 60 in winter.
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Chin Strap posted:Can I trust the mileage estimate in my EV6 better than I could my 2015 leaf? On the leaf it was always called the guessometer because it was nowhere near reliable. You might be able to see how accurate the stimate is from Bjorn's videos, he's done a couple of long tests with AWD and RWD versions in below and above freezing temps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q59wiNvk44 Indiana_Krom posted:The estimated range in a Tesla's energy app is really accurate especially if you have a destination set in navigation, but the range indicator on the main screen that is based off the EPA efficiency is complete garbage and nobody should use it ever (use battery percentage instead).
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I bought my EV in December so it’s been fun seeing the gauge cluster estimate and the infotainment estimate start to converge as the weather warms up
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Chin Strap posted:Can I trust the mileage estimate in my EV6 better than I could my 2015 leaf? On the leaf it was always called the guessometer because it was nowhere near reliable. I've only taken one longer drive, but it was pretty meh. I was going a lot over the speed limit, though.
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Sooooo, Driveway.com paid me out for the equity in my Mach-E 10 days ago. They paid off the WF Auto loan yesterday and the account is closed. And the Mach-E is still sitting in my garage and no one has contacted me about picking it up. Tuesday I emailed THEM and made sure that everything was proceeding as planned and they haven't responded. How long do I have to wait before I can file for a new title on an abandoned vehicle?
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Harveygod posted:Looking more into Kia Niro EV: How important would the "cold weather package" (heat-pump and battery heater) be to someone in Massachusetts? Elviscat posted:Very Yeah, you definitely want to get that.
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Could someone in MA even find one for sale without the winter package? I’d assume Kia wouldn’t even bother stocking them anywhere that has real winters.
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President Beep posted:Could someone in MA even find one for sale without the winter package? I’d assume Kia wouldn’t even bother stocking them anywhere that has real winters. In a world with normal market availability, sure, you’re probably right. We’re in end-stage capitalism, though, so it’s nearly guaranteed that if a dealership has a chance to get ahold of one with no winter package or functioning air conditioning and only 3 tires, they’re going to mark it up $30k and put it on the lot. But yes, Harveygod will need to choose between getting the winter package or having Mazda-level driving range in the winter.
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