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site posted:more info on defenders "I'm saying what's probably a final goodbye to a lot of stuff from the past ten years with this one" - hope this doesn't mean he's wrapping up his Marvel work Who's the woman between Iceman and Hulk? I've seen that character before, but I'm blanking
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FoneBone posted:"I'm saying what's probably a final goodbye to a lot of stuff from the past ten years with this one" - hope this doesn't mean he's wrapping up his Marvel work Red guardian
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Al Ewing had a good run, if this is it. I believe all of his runs, not just most, all of his runs from the past few years have been spectacular, astonishing, amazing, and uncanny. If this is it though, I'm sad that we're most likely never going to see Morinus again or explore Quill's enlightenment powers.
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bobkatt013 posted:Red guardian I feel that's definitely the case in least a few instances, as there's a throwaway line in Jeph Loeb's Hulk about how the Avengers had heard Darkstar (I) and Red Guardian (VI) were dead, but now they're suspiciously back (or replaced), something they'll have to figure out later, for now there's a star-studded murder mystery to solve! Left uncommented-on was the fact that it was also the debut of Crimson Dynamo (XI), after Crimson Dynamo X disappeared after a single appearance in the Knauf Iron Man run. (CM X was later killed by the Punisher. The Winter Guard spin-off one-shot and follow-up mini-series that killed off Starlight also killed off Crimson Dynamo XII and Darkstar II, because why not?)
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I did a mini dive into Darkstar after she beefed it in Morrison’s X-Men and she does seem pretty hard to perma kill since she has an additional body hanging out in the Darkforce dimension as well apparently.
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Ewing seems pretty committed to X-Men: Red for the semi-long-term so I would guess that what he's saying goodbye to is just his long kind of metaphysical thread that runs through Defenders, Ultimates, Loki, etc..
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https://twitter.com/GailSimone/status/1502403147871961091?s=20&t=pSP_h58U08PS9M5OKIlnLA
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Mar 11, 2022 23:11
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Noto on art, sounds like a good time.
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Was Jessica a SHIELD agent at some point?
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cant cook creole bream posted:Was Jessica a SHIELD agent at some point? I think there was a What If about that
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drrockso20 posted:I think there was a What If about that There was an Alias What-If focusing on that actually
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I haven't read a Gail Simone comic since her Suicide Squad, is her stuff still unabashedly extremely horny?
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Simone's Domino books were loving incredible and also fairly horny (the art contributed to that.)
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rantmo posted:Simone's Domino books were loving incredible and also fairly horny (the art contributed to that.) Which is funny because David Baldeon also drew the best non-costume outfit for Domino in history: 
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all marvel women who have only ever been in spandex should get non-horny outfits
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But only occasionally.
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Cloks posted:all marvel women who have only ever been in spandex should get non-horny outfits Marvel Sweatpants Special.
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drrockso20 posted:I think there was a What If about that not a very good comic though, I think literally half the issue was just reused Gaydos art from Alias
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Barry Convex posted:not a very good comic though, I think literally half the issue was just reused Gaydos art from Alias And half was just Bendis in-comic explaining Jessica's whole deal. As in, Bendis was a character providing exposition.
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Barry Convex posted:not a very good comic though, I think literally half the issue was just reused Gaydos art from Alias Yvonmukluk posted:And half was just Bendis in-comic explaining Jessica's whole deal. As in, Bendis was a character providing exposition. This particular comic was part of the first wave of "What If?" one-shots Marvel started doing on a more or less annual basis in 2004, after kind of killing the What If? concept in the mid 1990s. For whatever reason they decided to switch up narrator for them, so the narrators were: What If Karen Page Had Lived? - Bendis in a diner, talking to Alex Maleev What If General Ross Had Become the Hulk? - Uatu What if Jessica Jones Had Joined the Avengers? - Bendis in a diner, talking to Michael Gaydos What If Magneto and Professor X Had Formed the X-Men Together? - Uatu What if Dr Doom Had Become the Thing? - Not named or shown What if Aunt May Had Died Instead of Uncle Ben? - Two guys in a comic shop in the 'real world', one of them wearing a Watcher t-shirt The next round of What Ifs in 2005 were all framed by a nerd posting speculative fiction on a message board, then 2007's didn't feature any sort of omniscient narrator at all. The two with Uatu were written by Peter David and Chris Claremont, while the newer ones mentioned were by Bendis, Karl Kesel, Ed Brubaker, Mike Carey, Greg Pak, Tony Bedard, Rick Veitch(??), Daniel Way, Robert Kirkman, David Hine, Rick Remender, Jeff Parker, etc. so it's possible there were just a bunch of newer writers who wanted to skip the Uatu stuff, or maybe there was a nudge in that direction that David/Claremont wanted to/were able to ignore. This isn't to say What If Jessica Jones was a particularly great read, but I also don't really love What If stories in general.
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Speaking of What If I've been catching up on comics from the past few weeks and man that Miles Morales What If really sucked, huh? I mean, the whole concept is supposed to be what if character did X instead of Y at this point in the main story but they just did a mediocre Elseworld and called it a What If.
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The What If? Civil War had Uatu, but it was a homage to What if? Elektra Lived, with him narrating to Tony how things might have been different at Steve's grave.
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What If can be fun but too many of them end up being depressing "everyone dies" situations to act as a smarmy "here's why things happened the way they did in canon cause the alternative would have been worse now shut up" Its one of those things that DC's Elseworlds comics were slightly better at avoiding
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What would be a good place to sort of get a wrap up on the Ultimate line in the 00s? I remember vaguely that it was like some hard-core edgy 00s dark and gritty poo poo. Including - Wolverine murdering a kid who's mutant power was to uncontrollably dissolve anyone within 500 feet - Reed Richard's banging Sue's mom - Cap'n America as mostly racist - ant man beating the absolute poo poo out of his gf - Reed Richard's going hard-core fascist tyrant - Wanda and Max actually banging and caught on tape - everything being sort of but not really like the main comics, Ga Lak Tus was a world devouring fleet of robot ships And so one. I can't even remember if any of the series actually got an ending or they just stopped publishing them at certain points. I can't think of anything good that came from it aside from Miles Morales. pentyne fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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Don't forget Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's twincest or the Blob eating the Wasp. Jeph Loeb might be kind of a hack.
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What are you looking for here? A greatest hits, or just how it wrapped up? The answer to the latter is Ultimate End, which was a Secret Wars tie in. You may also want to read Hickman's Ultimate Comics: Ultimates, which showcases the Maker, the only other (?) Ultimate character who jumped over to 616. Like everything Hickman has done, it's great. Miles was the only good thing to "come out" of the Ultimate line, but huge chunks of Ultimate Spider-Man were very, very good.
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Boxman posted:What are you looking for here? A greatest hits, or just how it wrapped up? The answer to the latter is Ultimate End, which was a Secret Wars tie in. You may also want to read Hickman's Ultimate Comics: Ultimates, which showcases the Maker, the only other (?) Ultimate character who jumped over to 616. Like everything Hickman has done, it's great. More like a "what the gently caress happened here?" breakdown of the 15 years of print, like maybe a blog article or a longform podcast/YT video that goes hard into how it all shook out from both the writing and editorial angles. I went 17 years without getting into comics, then having a insane comic-head friend got me somewhat aware of the scene, to the level of Marvel vs DC and all the "no one stays dead" stuff. Ultimate hit right when it was easy for me to start reading and not have to worry about 50+ years of continuity. Even with all that I was kind of aware of The Ultimates being a little....weird, especially with all the domestic abuse, incest, and the whole "A stands for France?!" 2000s peak pop culture politics. I kind of drifted off as Ultimate got (predictably) convoluted with crossovers and tie-ins and just seemed to being looking for the next edgy angle to go with. Then I see that the Ultimate titles are getting their own re-launch then I was like "gently caress this is too complicated"
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Sam Jackson as Nick Fury also started in the Ultimates. Right now and since Secret Wars 7 years ago, all series happen in the main Marvel universe (unless there's some weird junk I'm forgetting). There was another Marvel series called Ultimates, by Ewing, that happened right after Secret Wars, but it takes place in the main Marvel universe and I have no idea why it is called Ultimates.
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StumblyWumbly posted:Sam Jackson as Nick Fury also started in the Ultimates. But worth noting that Ult Nick Fury debuted before that and was not drawn as SLJ.
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StumblyWumbly posted:Secret Wars 7 years ago, 
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Rhyno posted:But worth noting that Ult Nick Fury debuted before that and was not drawn as SLJ. Doesn't he start getting drawn as Sam Jackson almost immediately though? Like only a couple appearances where he doesn't look like that. He's definitely drawn as Jackson in the first issue of The Ultimates.
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Skwirl posted:Doesn't he start getting drawn as Sam Jackson almost immediately though? Like only a couple appearances where he doesn't look like that. He's definitely drawn as Jackson in the first issue of The Ultimates. He's 100% Samuel L. Jackson from the jump as I remember it, or if not from day one than day two.
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StumblyWumbly posted:There was another Marvel series called Ultimates, by Ewing, that happened right after Secret Wars, but it takes place in the main Marvel universe and I have no idea why it is called Ultimates. What else are you going to call a team with Galactus the Lifebringer on it?
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rantmo posted:He's 100% Samuel L. Jackson from the jump as I remember it, or if not from day one than day two. He has an appearance in Ultimate Team Up and a few issues of Ultimate XMen a few months before Ultimates.
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I believe there are several first appearances of Ultimate versions of character (Fury, FF, Daredevil) in Ultimate Team-Up that do not match their later appearances.
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Ultimate Team-Up was an attempt to flesh out the Ultimate universe by introducing a bunch of characters really quickly that were barely distinct from their 616 versions. It should really just be accepted as non-canon.
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Yeah well he was still in Ult X-Men and was not based on SLJ.
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Endless Mike posted:Ultimate Team-Up was an attempt to flesh out the Ultimate universe by introducing a bunch of characters really quickly that were barely distinct from their 616 versions. It should really just be accepted as non-canon. Wasn’t there a Spider-Man/Bruce Lee team-up?
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