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Improbable Lobster posted:I think that Fierstein's character was spelled Karl (looks at hand) Karl = gay Carl = black
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Data Graham posted:I said it recently but yeah, homer's heart exploding in front of Mr. Burns I was like "wtf show is this becoming? *turns knob to the left*" I feel like Homer's original name, Captain Wacky, should have clued you in to where the show was headed...
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Atlas Hugged posted:I'm thinking more it suddenly turns into The Day the Clown Cried with Krusty leading everyone into the chamber and begging for the end. I'd prefer Cross of Iron because it would be much more inexplicable and probably closer to how the show might've ended in the older old days.
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Improbable Lobster posted:I think that Fierstein's character was spelled Karl The Simpsons will end when they run out of names for new characters.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I'm really curious about the "and there's the box" lines. Are they making fun of their own tendency to point out the jokes? Or are they actually pointing out the jokes? That’s what I was wondering too. I think it’s a half hearted atttempt at being self aware, like when Family Guy would acknowledge the cutaways. Like all new Simpsons it’s done in a lazy, no-effort fashion though
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pooch516 posted:The Simpsons will end when they run out of names for new characters. Looking forward to hit new character Qarl
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I'm really curious about the "and there's the box" lines. Are they making fun of their own tendency to point out the jokes? Or are they actually pointing out the jokes? I bet you she was reading the stage directions and nobody had the heart to tell her. Or to cut one of the lines she obviously had to go through a lot of pain to say.
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I.C. posted:Bart would be the same age I am now… It blew my mind when I started my rewatch that Homer and Marge were 34, a year younger than I am They've always been 40 to me for some reason
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Professor Shark posted:It blew my mind when I started my rewatch that Homer and Marge were 34, a year younger than I am The writers aged them up once they started getting older than them
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https://screenrant.com/simpsons-season-33-mocked-freeze-frame-gag-tradition/The Simpsons Season 33 Mocked One Of The Show’s Oldest Recurring Gags posted:The Simpsons season 33 briefly saw Marge (and later Lisa) acknowledge the show's tendency to rely on blink-and-you'll-miss-it freeze-frame gags.
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Mar 12, 2022 02:08
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The joke is that they ruin the joke?
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Das Boo posted:The joke is that they ruin the joke? The joke is on all of us for watching.
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Having a character read the joke out loud for the audience is always a real knee slapper, so this must be at least twice as funny as that.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Having a character read the joke out loud for the audience is always a real knee slapper, so this must be at least twice as funny as that. What if... WHAT IF... They combined pointing out the joke with the Sideshow Bob rake gag?
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I don't know how but most of this entire current season of Family Guy has been really good. Every episode has a solid story structure and they continually build upon jokes throughout the episode instead of being a bunch of lazy randomness like the show was for many years. A few years ago it's like they decided to start putting effort into it again and it's been gradually getting better. This is not a joke post - if you ever liked the show, you might like it again. If you never liked it, you still won't. But it's crazy to see them put out solid efforts in contrast to whatever the hell The Simpsons craps out.
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Zombie Simpsons have gone on for so long that, on the balance, the Simpsons cannot be said to be a good show. There are more bad seasons than good ones, by a large margin. If zombie Family Guy averages out to being on the better side of watchable, then the effect could actually yield the opposite result.
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The difference is that Family Guy has actually been cancelled before. They have reason to try. The Simpsons can keep going no matter how bad it is because it's by and for people with literally no standards except to see familiar branding.
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Mantis42 posted:Zombie Simpsons have gone on for so long that, on the balance, the Simpsons cannot be said to be a good show. There are more bad seasons than good ones, by a large margin. If zombie Family Guy averages out to being on the better side of watchable, then the effect could actually yield the opposite result. Except the early Simpsons seasons were revolutionary and among the best, sharpest comedy ever put on television, and had a massive impact on pop culture and warped the minds of thousands of impressionable children -- many of which post in this thread! Family Guy was novel because it was unabashedly crude and cruel and on network television. South Park had already been doing the same thing for years but better and with a lot more wit and better writing, just on cable. At its best, Family Guy has always been solidly mediocre. The Simpsons could run for another 40 years and be nothing but unwatchable garbage the entire time, and it still won't diminish the quality and cultural impact of early seasons. It really is two different shows, one that ran from 1989 to 1999 or so, and one from 1999 - the earth is swallowed by an expanding, dying sun.
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I’m pretty deep into season 12 on this rewatch and getting scared because I’m not hating these episodes.
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Over in another thread I mentioned that Chuck Lorre got his start on some children's cartoons of the 80s/90s. (Things like Toxic Crusaders and Pole Position.) With the slow death of the Saturday Morning/first-run syndicated cartoon broadcast market since the early 2000s, I'm sort of wondering if there was anyone left that ever transitioned from the more or less 'kids cartoon' market to something like The Simpsons. I mean, I'm pretty sure even Seth MacFarlane did writing for some Cartoon Network kids stuff in the 90s before getting Family Guy into the shape it eventually became.
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Das Boo posted:The joke is that they ruin the joke? I mean, they’ve been ruining jokes for over 20 years at this point.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Over in another thread I mentioned that Chuck Lorre got his start on some children's cartoons of the 80s/90s. (Things like Toxic Crusaders and Pole Position.) Seth worked on Johnny Bravo, yeah. Also goes the other way, the Phineas and Ferb creators used to write for Family Guy.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I don't know how but most of this entire current season of Family Guy has been really good. Every episode has a solid story structure and they continually build upon jokes throughout the episode instead of being a bunch of lazy randomness like the show was for many years. A few years ago it's like they decided to start putting effort into it again and it's been gradually getting better. This is not a joke post - if you ever liked the show, you might like it again. If you never liked it, you still won't. But it's crazy to see them put out solid efforts in contrast to whatever the hell The Simpsons craps out. Yeah I ended up watching the last couple of seasons a few months back for lack of anything better to watch or do with my time. I felt like I was scraping the bottom of the barrel going in but I definitely enjoyed it more than I had expected.
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Endless Trash posted:I’m pretty deep into season 12 on this rewatch and getting scared because I’m not hating these episodes. The decline, while clear, does take a bit to really set in. There are gems past season 12 but they get fewer and further apart with time. I personally just find american gldad and family guy really annoying. Just hearing the voices makes me cringe.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Seth worked on Johnny Bravo, yeah. He seems like the kind of guy that would think Johnny Bravo was unitonically cool
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Seth MacFarlane also produced a “What a Cartoon!” short for Cartoon Network back in the mid-‘90s that is proto Family Guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caR_5BgEgv8
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Seth worked on Johnny Bravo, yeah. He made a pilot for a Peter and Brian show years before Family Guy was a thing: https://youtu.be/caR_5BgEgv8
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Improbable Lobster posted:He seems like the kind of guy that would think Johnny Bravo was unitonically cool Actually the bad Johnny Bravo seasons went a bit much into him being an rear end in a top hat loser. Apparently, the show being pitched to Cartoon Network had a mixed response from the male suits, but the women loved it, since they'd all had to deal with someone like Johnny during their lives.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Actually the bad Johnny Bravo seasons went a bit much into him being an rear end in a top hat loser. Apparently, the show being pitched to Cartoon Network had a mixed response from the male suits, but the women loved it, since they'd all had to deal with someone like Johnny during their lives. I loved it as a kid. Sometimes I randomly remember the episode where Johnny's childhood bully was richard simmons
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Actually the bad Johnny Bravo seasons went a bit much into him being an rear end in a top hat loser. Apparently, the show being pitched to Cartoon Network had a mixed response from the male suits, but the women loved it, since they'd all had to deal with someone like Johnny during their lives. I still love it for this reason, honestly.
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Das Boo posted:I still love it for this reason, honestly. It holds up pretty welll tbh
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Applewhite posted:The joke is on all of us for watching. Speak for yourself
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JediTalentAgent posted:With the slow death of the Saturday Morning/first-run syndicated cartoon broadcast market since the early 2000s, I'm sort of wondering if there was anyone left that ever transitioned from the more or less 'kids cartoon' market to something like The Simpsons. I mean, I'm pretty sure even Seth MacFarlane did writing for some Cartoon Network kids stuff in the 90s before getting Family Guy into the shape it eventually became. Along with Paul Dini, interestingly enough. Scott Shaw!, who worked on, let's see... apparently every American cartoon ever... also did storyboards for an episode of Family Guy's original run, and absolutely hated it. Scott Shaw! posted:When I'd suggest some sort of minor gag... [the director] just looked at me and, deadpan, asked "why"? The designs of the characters were murder to draw, so bland and expressionless, but I was somehow expected to get more "acting" out of them. Believe me, Peter's model sheet poses for "happy" and "depressed" looked practically identical! I was told not to add eyebrows, not to distort eye-shapes, not to draw "cartoony" poses...but still, somehow, creating "acting". Yeah, right.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Seth worked on Johnny Bravo, yeah. I watched a lot of family guy as a teen and liked it but as I got older assumed Seth was a tucker max style guy. So I ignored Orville when it was released as casting himself as the captain seemed like recipe for indulgent trash. Loud voices in the Star Trek threads finally got me to give it a chance and holy cow it’s better than a good chunk of Star Trek shows. Keromaru5 posted:Along with Paul Dini, interestingly enough. Oh yeah Dini owns. His work on Dark Night: A True Batman Story was well handled.
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Which of the BTAS creators were really horny for Harley?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Actually the bad Johnny Bravo seasons went a bit much into him being an rear end in a top hat loser. Apparently, the show being pitched to Cartoon Network had a mixed response from the male suits, but the women loved it, since they'd all had to deal with someone like Johnny during their lives. It was a weird dichotomy where the first season was actually sort of about someone like Johnny existing in the world, and then it got a new showrunner and animation style and he was pretty much just a buffoon that went on wacky cartoon adventures who also says "hey baby" and gets punched a lot. I liked the later stuff a lot more as a kid, so it was probably the right choice for Cartoon Network's demo, but as an adult the early stuff was a lot more interesting
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Which of the BTAS creators were really horny for Harley? All of them?
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