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Wasabi the J posted:The forums were you know the crypto thing is just something someone made up as a joke, right?
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Mar 12, 2022 03:24
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RFC2324 posted:you know the crypto thing is just something someone made up as a joke, right? You know what? I didn't, but it doesn't really change the whoosh right over your head.
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Mar 12, 2022 03:30
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:YESSSSSSSSS A little part of me wonders if the yacht thing is more like: “Hey country imposing sanctions on us, could you post security guards while the sanctions are ongoing so we don’t have to come out if pocket to secure it while we wait for the sanctions to blow over.” “Yes, sir, your deutschbank representative already informed us if this request a week ago.”
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Mar 12, 2022 03:31
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Not if the money and gas Russia has been squeezing from the EU via Ukraine was laundered through said people. But what do I know? The executives have been sued in SDNY by Ukraines former leadership I'm sure it's nothing to do with the invasion and destruction of nuclear infrastructure.
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Mar 12, 2022 03:38
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Wasabi the J posted:You know what? I didn't, but it doesn't really change the whoosh right over your head. not unusual  I think the "we are all idiots" was covered pretty thoroughly a while back.
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Runaktla posted:A little part of me wonders if the yacht thing is more like: It's not. Vessels can be arrested by a nation, and its a Big Deal when it happens. It's not that common and even less so for yachts, and gently caress em. Take their toys away from them.
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Mar 12, 2022 03:51
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:It's not. Vessels can be arrested by a nation, and its a Big Deal when it happens. It's not that common and even less so for yachts, and gently caress em. Take their toys away from them. I'm surprised people aren't more familiar with this sort of thing after Egypt did it with Ever Given. Be interesting if the shitbag owners try to charge rent on whichever poor bastard winds up marooned aboard (MV Aman style). e: V Oh wow, that's even worse than I'd remembered. IPCRESS fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Mar 12, 2022 04:50
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IPCRESS posted:Be interesting if the shitbag owners try to charge rent on whichever poor bastard winds up marooned aboard (MV Aman style). That wasn’t the owners charging rent, that was the government holding the last dude stuck onboard responsible for the ship’s debts. It’s a hosed up thing to do, and while the owners were dicks, the villains were the local government.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I know nothing about sushko and his recent prominence on twitter, but Meduza was publishing some absolutely prescient stuff in the months leading up to the invasion Yeah about the other thing, the now 4 letters from the supposed fsb analyst. I've read the latter 3 now. Not impressed. The first one was plausible, and BM's org said as much which is being quoted as confirmation of the authors authenticity. That's going to bite them. The new letters reads like dispatches from Q more than anything else. ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Mar 12, 2022 05:15
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Nothing in there is privileged information, the author keeps making statements about summarising and abbreviating events, obv I'm assuming to not get stuck giving details they don't know. Another spurious thing is how the author starts from known, small facts and presents them nonchalantly with an absolute interpretation, and then building their story taller on that. I do not believe Putin is a clinical narcissist for one, and I'm doubting the author can explain what differs that psychology from sadists or even common rich people. The stuff about China isn't very insightful. It does read like the person is russian from how they talk about conspiracy and the boogeyman magical view of the US and crap, and I absolutely should read it again because I'm forgetting stuff. In summary I'm not ready to believe anything about this story anymore, but also not guessing anything else about it like it's origin etc. I am going to be very sceptical towards Sushko now.
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Mar 12, 2022 06:27
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I was hoping to take a stroll and go see it today, i guess that's off then(I live in the town where it's docked)
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Mar 12, 2022 07:09
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Bellingcat only said the first one appeared to be authentic, nothing on the new ones.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Nothing in there is privileged information, the author keeps making statements about summarising and abbreviating events, obv I'm assuming to not get stuck giving details they don't know. Another spurious thing is how the author starts from known, small facts and presents them nonchalantly with an absolute interpretation, and then building their story taller on that. I do not believe Putin is a clinical narcissist for one, and I'm doubting the author can explain what differs that psychology from sadists or even common rich people. Yeah if I were to throw out an offhand clinical diagnosis Putin is obviously a sociopath. I would say he has narcissistic traits but probably not full-blown NPD because having narcissistic traits is just a common endpoint of being rich and powerful for decades, and a sociopath would long-term self-select for people who won't challenge their dominance, so you also end up surrounded by yes-men. One of the big tells, aside from unnecessarily assassinating people & poo poo, was the KGB assessment that he had a reduced threat response, which is a classic trait of sociopaths to have a reduced fear response to threats, which causes them to engage in excessively risky behavior.
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Sergg posted:Yeah if I were to throw out an offhand clinical diagnosis Putin is obviously a sociopath. I would say he has narcissistic traits but probably not full-blown NPD because having narcissistic traits is just a common endpoint of being rich and powerful for decades, and a sociopath would long-term self-select for people who won't challenge their dominance, so you also end up surrounded by yes-men. One of the big tells, aside from unnecessarily assassinating people & poo poo, was the KGB assessment that he had a reduced threat response, which is a classic trait of sociopaths to have a reduced fear response to threats, which causes them to engage in excessively risky behavior. oh my god dude
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Mar 12, 2022 08:28
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I heard he has the rear end burgers He likes armored trains
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eeeeeey, I'm yachtin' here!
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Sergg posted:Yeah if I were to throw out an offhand clinical diagnosis Putin is obviously a sociopath. I would say he has narcissistic traits but probably not full-blown NPD because having narcissistic traits is just a common endpoint of being rich and powerful for decades, and a sociopath would long-term self-select for people who won't challenge their dominance, so you also end up surrounded by yes-men. One of the big tells, aside from unnecessarily assassinating people & poo poo, was the KGB assessment that he had a reduced threat response, which is a classic trait of sociopaths to have a reduced fear response to threats, which causes them to engage in excessively risky behavior. Fun fact: In the US, licensed psychiatrists are specifically forbidden from making public statements in which they offer a "diagnosis" of a public figure. e: correction, guess it's psychiatrists that are specifically forbidden. clinical psychologists are strongly discouraged from doing so HolHorsejob fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Mar 12, 2022 09:12
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"sociopath" isn't even a real loving diagnosis and yet
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It's a day old so it may have been posted but I didn't see it. Offers some potential insight into Russia's plan to weather the sanctions. I have no way of judging its accuracy but it seems in line with what's already been discussed here. Thread: https://twitter.com/Killa_ru/status/1502075252989382664?t=6vjOuANRF3O5zTvxF_Vg5w&s=19
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SlowBloke posted:I was hoping to take a stroll and go see it today, i guess that's off then(I live in the town where it's docked) https://imgur.com/a/BNvGUz7 It’s currently missing a mast so that’s why it couldn’t leave Edit: I’m in adjacent supermarket and I can only see the masts but goddamn they are huge up close SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Mar 12, 2022 10:53
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M_Gargantua posted:Bellingcat only said the first one appeared to be authentic, nothing on the new ones. And that's a fact that a heap of people are going to miss, maybe on purpose 
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Sergg posted:Yeah if I were to throw out an offhand clinical diagnosis Putin is obviously a sociopath. I would say he has narcissistic traits but probably not full-blown NPD because having narcissistic traits is just a common endpoint of being rich and powerful for decades, and a sociopath would long-term self-select for people who won't challenge their dominance, so you also end up surrounded by yes-men. One of the big tells, aside from unnecessarily assassinating people & poo poo, was the KGB assessment that he had a reduced threat response, which is a classic trait of sociopaths to have a reduced fear response to threats, which causes them to engage in excessively risky behavior. I genuinely hope you don't actually work anywhere near the mental health field
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RFC2324 posted:not unusual Huh?
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Sergg posted:Yeah if I were to throw out an offhand clinical diagnosis Putin is obviously a sociopath. I would say he has narcissistic traits but probably not full-blown NPD because having narcissistic traits is just a common endpoint of being rich and powerful for decades, and a sociopath would long-term self-select for people who won't challenge their dominance, so you also end up surrounded by yes-men. One of the big tells, aside from unnecessarily assassinating people & poo poo, was the KGB assessment that he had a reduced threat response, which is a classic trait of sociopaths to have a reduced fear response to threats, which causes them to engage in excessively risky behavior. I don’t think you understand what sociopathy or narcissistic personality disorder is
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Russia now threatening to attack supply shipments from NATO. https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f0806dde1f8cc9d
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's a day old so it may have been posted but I didn't see it. Offers some potential insight into Russia's plan to weather the sanctions. I have no way of judging its accuracy but it seems in line with what's already been discussed here. Thread: Most of that has already happened and Russia/China have wanted a higher moat for their internet for a long time so I would say pretty believable. Thats basically the expectation of going DPRK status though. Famine was already likely but if they decide to go full DPRK its certain, along with much greater suffering.
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psydude posted:Russia now threatening to attack supply shipments from NATO. Not really sure how this is surprising, tbh. If it's weapons and it's in Ukraine, it's a legit target to them (nevermind the non-legit targets they hit anyway), not sure why they'd specifically point out that they'd consider them "a threat" only now. I figured they were targeting them from the get-go.
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psydude posted:Russia now threatening to attack supply shipments from NATO. https://twitter.com/aaronstein1/status/1502629024367009793?t=YxI735Np6cHngsrs0L-uZg&s=19
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Not really sure how this is surprising, tbh. If it's weapons and it's in Ukraine, it's a legit target to them (nevermind the non-legit targets they hit anyway), not sure why they'd specifically point out that they'd consider them "a threat" only now. I figured they were targeting them from the get-go. I think the open ended question is are they referring to countries other than Ukraine.
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TCD posted:I think the open ended question is are they referring to countries other than Ukraine. Carrying out overt attacks inside nato member territory is going to have only one response and the russians aren't going to do that. They would be limited to mysterious explosive accidents at supply dumps maybe in Chechia or nothing at all, until the supplies go over the border with Ukraine ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Not really sure how this is surprising, tbh. If it's weapons and it's in Ukraine, it's a legit target to them (nevermind the non-legit targets they hit anyway), not sure why they'd specifically point out that they'd consider them "a threat" only now. I figured they were targeting them from the get-go. I didn't see anyone say "in Ukraine." I read that exchange as Russia saying it will attack NATO shipments while they're still inside NATO borders and NATO responding, essentially, "make my day."
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The followup tweet seems to make say that they are targets once inside Ukraine. https://twitter.com/christopherjm/status/1502609230049730563?s=21
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mlmp08 posted:The followup tweet seems to make say that they are targets once inside Ukraine.
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They would have been legitimate. There is a chance that foreign contractors like truck drivers etc may have been driving trucks. I don’t know. But this would serve as a warning that while Polish Army forces in Poland are no target, if there happens to be Polish or Romanian truck drivers, forklift operators, quartermaster personnel, or trainers in the vicinity of these convoys inside Ukraine, they are at risk of being killed. I could be wrong. They clause about them having been aupplied to Unraine reads that the transfer would be complete. I doubt they are threatening to adopt the Israel model. Israel has repeatedly bombed Syria and killed Syrian government workers and Iranians if they think the weapons will soon leave Syria to go to Lebanon, for example.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I read that exchange as Russia saying it will attack NATO shipments while they're still inside NATO borders and NATO responding, essentially, "make my day." Given the current location of most of the Russian forces, huge missed opportunity to respond, “you and what army?”
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stealie72 posted:If they were only talking about inside Ukraine, why would they not have been "legitimate targets" already? You know, ignoring the whole invading a sovereign nation unprovoked thing. Syria would be an example of a contested space with opposing convoys and you could hypothetically have a NATO convoy moving through Ukrainian space I guess.
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The US and Russia did set up deconfliction hotlines, but I have a feeling that any Russian aircraft or missile coming within 50km of the Polish border is probably going to end up as a crater in a field.
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psydude posted:The US and Russia did set up deconfliction hotlines, but I have a feeling that any Russian aircraft or missile coming within 50km of the Polish border is probably going to end up as a crater in a field. The age-old love that Poland has for Russia will make any Russian air operations close to the Polish border extra-spicy.
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