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Mzuri: Jun 5, 2004; Who's the boss?
Dudes is lost.
Don't think coz I'm iced out,
I'm cooled off.

SubnormalityStairs posted:

I'm an ansoc

What is that - Anarchist Socialist? Or a sex thing? (Not kink shaming)

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goatface: Dec 5, 2007; I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.; Grimey Drawer

False, true, false, false, true, false, true? Do I win?

I don't even know what language that is so I'm basing that on set theory. Java?

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Samuel L. Hacksaw: Mar 26, 2007; Never Stop Posting

The correct answer is 'I'm not in school, I'm not taking a test. Thank you for your time'

# ? Mar 11, 2022 21:15

NFX: Jun 2, 2008; Fun Shoe

"Are you interviewing for a compiler?"

# ? Mar 11, 2022 21:27

MarxCarl: Jul 18, 2003

The �bistro� in the office has had free lunch the last few weeks. We all thought they were just clearing out the old food, but the first two weeks they brought in Chick-fil-a and Dominos. Last week it was all their own food. According to the people who went, attendance was down once Chick-fil-a was gone. I refuse to eat it, but we�ve been trying to figure out why they�re doing it and what they expect the final outcome to be when you go from free Chick-fil-a to pay for our food now. The old company employed bistro staff has been replaced by a third party contractor based cooking staff, and there are a ton of better choices within a 5 minute drive. We�re down to a �Look we�re still here in the office we got a new cook you don�t have to leave! See it a nice here please come to the office, please.�

# ? Mar 11, 2022 21:27

Zil: Jun 4, 2011; Satanically Summoned Citrus

NFX posted:

"Are you interviewing for a compiler?"

"We compile things by hand here, so yes."

# ? Mar 11, 2022 21:29

Tinestram: Jan 13, 2006; Excalibur? More like "Needle"; Grimey Drawer

goatface posted:

False, true, false, false, true, false, true? Do I win?

I don't even know what language that is so I'm basing that on set theory. Java?

The correct answer is false, false (you can't instantiate an abstract class), true (Nissan necessarily implements ICar through inheritance), false, false (you can't instantiate an abstract class), true (a Versa is necessarily a Nissan through inheritance), false (Nissan doesn't necessarily contain all of the class members of Versa). So, uhh, no you don't win. But nice try! The language is C#.

Mzuri posted:

What is that - Anarchist Socialist? Or a sex thing? (Not kink shaming)

Anarcho-socialist, yes.

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

The correct answer is 'I'm not in school, I'm not taking a test. Thank you for your time'

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toplitzin: Jun 13, 2003

Today was my last day at OldJob after 10(12) years.

Feels good and weird.

# ? Mar 11, 2022 21:35

goatface: Dec 5, 2007; I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.; Grimey Drawer

Oh well. My coding ends at massaging ancient Fortran.

# ? Mar 11, 2022 21:42

Tinestram: Jan 13, 2006; Excalibur? More like "Needle"; Grimey Drawer

goatface posted:

Oh well. My coding ends at massaging ancient Fortran.

Ooof. In that case, I rescind my earlier assessment and conclude that you actually win! I'm not sure what you win, but you deserve something after that.

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:07

honda whisperer: Mar 29, 2009

We actually recently started a dead loving simple written test for applicants and it has helped a ton. Weeds out about half (obviously lied on their resume) and for the rest shows where they'll be good out the door and where they'll need training.

I can see how it would morph into hell in a corporate environment though.

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:13

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

goatsestretchgoals posted:

You wouldn’t ~~download~~ instantiate a car.

Well no, of course not, it's abstract. You can only instantiate a subclass, anonymous or not!

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:23

zedprime: Jun 9, 2007; yospos

If you aren't taking every test put in front of you to brag to everybody about all the tests you have beat what are you even doing with your life?

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Machai: Feb 21, 2013

How can you have anarchy and socialism at the same time?

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:28

Tinestram: Jan 13, 2006; Excalibur? More like "Needle"; Grimey Drawer

SubnormalityStairs posted:

The correct answer is false, false (you can't instantiate an abstract class), true (Nissan necessarily implements ICar through inheritance), false, false (you can't instantiate an abstract class), true (a Versa is necessarily a Nissan through inheritance), false (Nissan doesn't necessarily contain all of the class members of Versa). So, uhh, no you don't win. But nice try! The language is C#.

Because I have crippling imposter syndrome, I double-checked my answers and I was actually wrong about the one I wasn't 100% sure on.

Car c = new Nissan(); // this works just fine

Turns out you can indeed have an abstract class reference to a concrete subclass instance. It does make sense! Well I guess I'm not gettin *that* job! LOL

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:31

old bean factory: Nov 18, 2006; Will ya close the fucking doors?!

Machai posted:

How can you have anarchy and socialism at the same time?

Very carefully.

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:33

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

"Even if they compile, none of these are correct, you shouldn't be using classes like this"

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:35

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Machai posted:

How can you have anarchy and socialism at the same time?

Ask a bunch of leftists a contentious question and watch the anarchy start.

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:36

Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

SubnormalityStairs posted:

Chatting with the recruiter

Her: "Do you have access to your email?"

Me: "...yes?"

Her: "Ok, I just sent you an invite to fill out a form, can you see it?"

Me: "... ...yeesss?"

Her: "Ok, could you just fill that out and let me know when you're finished?"

*click*

*sigh*

I mean, I got it, but c'mon now.

T
F
T
F
T
F
F*

How'd I do?

*: There's always a double :cool:

# ? Mar 11, 2022 22:37

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

The correct answer is 'I'm not in school, I'm not taking a test. Thank you for your time'

# ? Mar 11, 2022 23:59

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Professor Shark posted:

T
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T
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F*

How'd I do?

*: There's always a double

I don't think there's pointers in C#

E:

Oh, they're very limited in scope.

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ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

The correct answer is 'I'm not in school, I'm not taking a test. Thank you for your time'

I actually love stuff like this to be honest over generic and nebulous "where do you see yourself in 10 years" interview questions. Part of the reason I still do tutoring long past needing a side gig for actual income is that problems with an objectively right or wrong solution are so refreshing compared to the real world tm. In my current industry you need to constantly be getting new/refreshing old certs through exams and such and while a lot of the oldtimers find it tedious/randomly fail that poo poo I'm just so comfortable in written/practical test environment I snap up any opportunities to fly to vegas for a new course or whatever, pandemic did put a damper on that though. If I could just be given material to study and test against in perpetuity and be paid for it regardless of how practical or obscure I'd take that job in a heartbeat. I'd take exams for a living no problem.

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zombienietzsche: Dec 9, 2003

Machai posted:

How can you have anarchy and socialism at the same time?

Leftism has specialized jargon just like anything else. To a leftist, Communism is a stateless, classless society; Anarchism is similar (I'm avoiding differences because no matter what I say I'll be very wrong), and Socialism is the process of economic transition to get there from capitalism.

Oftentimes the term anarcho-socialist is used because people who call themselves anarcho-capitalists are not anarchists, they want very defined power structures based on property ownership in a Randian hellscape without any sort of public accountability, and ansocs correctly don't want to be confused with them.

For some fun reading look up the American ancap that went to Greece and found an anarchist commune. He hung out with them all night, and when they figured out what he was on about through the language barrier they mocked him and (when he wouldn't leave) eventually beat the poo poo out of him while he screamed that they were violating the non-aggression principle. Then he went and whined about it on Reddit to much lmaoing.

If you're trying to talk to someone outside the specialized field of leftist political theory communism usually means the government owns all means of production and has a centrally planned economy. Socialism ranges from a nebulously defined Communism Lite to any intervention in the free market with an aim to establish equity.

zombienietzsche fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Mar 12, 2022

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TheSpartacus: Oct 30, 2010; HEY GUYS I'VE FLOWN HELICOPTERS IN THIS GAME BEFORE AND I AM AN EXPERT. ALSO, HOW DO I START THE ENGINE?

I've never gotten a job at a place that has asked me to take a test... huh. Am I the one whose wrong???

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Samuel L. Hacksaw: Mar 26, 2007; Never Stop Posting

ArbitraryC posted:

I actually love stuff like this to be honest over generic and nebulous "where do you see yourself in 10 years" interview questions. Part of the reason I still do tutoring long past needing a side gig for actual income is that problems with an objectively right or wrong solution are so refreshing compared to the real world tm. In my current industry you need to constantly be getting new/refreshing old certs through exams and such and while a lot of the oldtimers find it tedious/randomly fail that poo poo I'm just so comfortable in written/practical test environment I snap up any opportunities to fly to vegas for a new course or whatever, pandemic did put a damper on that though. If I could just be given material to study and test against in perpetuity and be paid for it regardless of how practical or obscure I'd take that job in a heartbeat. I'd take exams for a living no problem.

I'm glad that works out for you. I'm a project manager so that colors my perception of technical interviews.

# ? Mar 12, 2022 02:49

TITTIEKISSER69: Mar 19, 2005; SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS

THEY NEED TO DO WAY INSTANTIATE NISSAN

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CaptainSarcastic: Jul 6, 2013

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

THEY NEED TO DO WAY INSTANTIATE NISSAN

# ? Mar 12, 2022 06:51

A Festivus Miracle: Dec 19, 2012; I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

I just finished a class that is pretty important to my industry and absolutely meaningless to my job. I got it, literally just to make sure I can go work elsewhere in case my current job falls through.

It has been a strange experience. The people in my class were from our competitors, a few from my own company, and a few randos. One lady was literally being paid to be there, I got comped the hotel and the cost of the class, and the people working at the competitor jobs had to carpool, stay at the motel 6, and not get anything comped. It's kind of depressing to find out that the other potential landing places are actually dramatically worse than the one you're at.

# ? Mar 12, 2022 07:10

NFX: Jun 2, 2008; Fun Shoe

SubnormalityStairs posted:

The language is C#.

Oh. Yeah, C# is a great language but it's not the best when it comes to creating cars. For that, C++ is much better. Let me show you what I mean:

code:

    auto c = new Verso();

Or, if you want to use dependency injection, you often have a factory class. Everyone knows a factory is a building is a structure:

code:

struct CarFactory {
    auto build() {
        return new Verso();
    }
}

NFX fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Mar 12, 2022

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Tinestram: Jan 13, 2006; Excalibur? More like "Needle"; Grimey Drawer

ArbitraryC posted:

I actually love stuff like this to be honest over generic and nebulous "where do you see yourself in 10 years" interview questions. Part of the reason I still do tutoring long past needing a side gig for actual income is that problems with an objectively right or wrong solution are so refreshing compared to the real world tm. In my current industry you need to constantly be getting new/refreshing old certs through exams and such and while a lot of the oldtimers find it tedious/randomly fail that poo poo I'm just so comfortable in written/practical test environment I snap up any opportunities to fly to vegas for a new course or whatever, pandemic did put a damper on that though. If I could just be given material to study and test against in perpetuity and be paid for it regardless of how practical or obscure I'd take that job in a heartbeat. I'd take exams for a living no problem.

Don't get me wrong, I hate the dumb "where do you see yourself in 10 years" questions too. But I love it when they ask me things like "describe your managerial style" because then I get to talk about servant leadership, which I'm passionate about. Good soft skills questions do exist.

One of the problems I have now is that I've worked with a lot of languages over the years, and despite being very similar they all have different ways of doing certain commonly-shared things. Initializing an array is a great example of this. How does C#, the language I work with most often, do it? I don't fuckin know, how often do you think I'm initializing arrays over here? With gullwing brackets, I think? So I take 10s to Google it and... nope, it's with new datatype[] { <val>, <val>, ... }. Cool, now I can do it. The important part is not memorizing how to do all these things across all those different languages, it's knowing when and how to use arrays to solve the problem and when an array is a better choice than, say, a list or whatever. The answer to that last (at least, for the work I currently do) is "not loving often", which is why I almost exclusively use Lists instead. If you ask me in an interview how to initialize an array in C# or JavaScript or Python or whatever and I fumble around with it, it's not going to give you an accurate view of my ability to work with any of those languages.

zombienietzsche posted:

Leftism has specialized jargon just like anything else. To a leftist, Communism is a stateless, classless society; Anarchism is similar (I'm avoiding differences because no matter what I say I'll be very wrong), and Socialism is the process of economic transition to get there from capitalism.

Oftentimes the term anarcho-socialist is used because people who call themselves anarcho-capitalists are not anarchists, they want very defined power structures based on property ownership in a Randian hellscape without any sort of public accountability, and ansocs correctly don't want to be confused with them.

For some fun reading look up the American ancap that went to Greece and found an anarchist commune. He hung out with them all night, and when they figured out what he was on about through the language barrier they mocked him and (when he wouldn't leave) eventually beat the poo poo out of him while he screamed that they were violating the non-aggression principle. Then he went and whined about it on Reddit to much lmaoing.

If you're trying to talk to someone outside the specialized field of leftist political theory communism usually means the government owns all means of production and has a centrally planned economy. Socialism ranges from a nebulously defined Communism Lite to any intervention in the free market with an aim to establish equity.

Thanks for explaining this better than I can. As little as a couple of years ago, I thought I was a liberal. Then I got into leftist theory and hoo boy am I ever NOT a liberal, but I do still have trouble getting the terms and concepts correct. Am I actually an ansoc and not an ancom? I'm not really 100% sure!

Anarchism, as I understand it, is this: all authority is inherently illegitimate and unjust; any authority must prove that it is both necessary and beneficial, or it should be dismantled by whatever means necessary and replaced by a horizontal structure.

The reason why I call myself ansoc and not ancom is because I think that, although everybody should be able to live comfortably regardless of their capability or desire to work, people should have the opportunity to put in work, beyond their minimum capacity, to live a bit nicer. I struggle with this because I understand it's an ableist point of view, but I do believe that effort should be rewarded, even if only slightly, if possible.

NFX posted:

Oh. Yeah, C# is a great language but it's not the best when it comes to creating cars. For that, C++ is much better. Let me show you what I mean:
code:
    auto c = new Verso();
Or, if you want to use dependency injection, you often have a factory class. Everyone knows a factory is a building is a structure:
code:
struct CarFactory {
    auto build() {
        return new Verso();
    }
}

if only C# had the auto keyword

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Scientastic: Mar 1, 2010; TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒

SubnormalityStairs posted:

"describe your managerial style�

This is also the best thing to ask at the end of the interview when you they tell you to ask questions

I had an internal interview recently where I was working under the same boss, I knew the role because I was best friends with the predecessor and I knew the new territory because it overlapped my old one.

I said before the interview even started �I know you�re going to ask me if I have any questions, just to warn you in advance: I won�t, I�m familiar with the role�

Apparently that was the wrong thing to say, and at the end of the interview they asked me if I had reconsidered�

�No, still no questions� was again considered the wrong answer�

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tater_salad: Sep 15, 2007

TheSpartacus posted:

I've never gotten a job at a place that has asked me to take a test... huh. Am I the one whose wrong???

The only place I have had to do a test was tech support job. I did so well despite never owning a windows PC at the time they hired me for a higher level of support. I can't imagine who would have failed it unless they literally never touched a PC.

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Outrail: Jan 4, 2009; www.sapphicrobotica.com

'where do you see yourself in 5 years?' is a great interview question to ask your prospective manager.

# ? Mar 12, 2022 15:33

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Outrail posted:

'where do you see yourself in 5 years?' is a great interview question to ask your prospective manager.

Gonna ask this next time I have an interview where I don't care if I get the job or not.

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insta: Jan 28, 2009

SubnormalityStairs posted:

if only C# had the auto keyword

var?? or

# ? Mar 12, 2022 15:59

Tinestram: Jan 13, 2006; Excalibur? More like "Needle"; Grimey Drawer

insta posted:

var?? or

maybe var(oom) instead of auto(mobile)? I mean I guess so

Scientastic posted:

This is also the best thing to ask at the end of the interview when you they tell you to ask questions

I had an internal interview recently where I was working under the same boss, I knew the role because I was best friends with the predecessor and I knew the new territory because it overlapped my old one.

I said before the interview even started �I know you�re going to ask me if I have any questions, just to warn you in advance: I won�t, I�m familiar with the role�

Apparently that was the wrong thing to say, and at the end of the interview they asked me if I had reconsidered�

�No, still no questions� was again considered the wrong answer�

Oh poo poo, this is going in the list...

I have a bunch of stock questions prepared for SDM roles, including

What's the team's current morale?
How does the organization minimize attrition?
What are the current development pain points? <-- this is one I can potentially turn around with how I would intend to address them
What is your general documentation strategy? spoiler: they usually don't have one
Are there any processes which impose significant administrative burden on dev (ie. ISO compliance or tax programs which require contemporaneous documentation, etc)
Is there an on-call rotation for the developers? How is that handled wrt/PTO & compensation?
Plus a bunch of other questions I would have expected them to answer already like team size/composition, predominant SDLC, how soon would I be recruiting, etc.

Tinestram fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Mar 12, 2022

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no_tears: Dec 20, 2020; Bing Bong

Outrail posted:

'where do you see yourself in 5 years?' is a great interview question to ask your prospective manager.

I like the idea of asking for references from former employees on how they�d rate the company.

# ? Mar 12, 2022 17:30

Armitag3: Mar 15, 2020; Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.

Outrail posted:

'where do you see yourself in 5 years?' is a great interview question to ask your prospective manager.

"Where do you see me in 5 years, if I were to join? What's your general plan for my growth?" is one I like and has stumped at least 2 prospective managers

# ? Mar 12, 2022 18:03

Outrail: Jan 4, 2009; www.sapphicrobotica.com

Armitag3 posted:

"Where do you see me in 5 years, if I were to join? What's your general plan for my growth?" is one I like and has stumped at least 2 prospective managers

Yeah,that's my go to now.

I like to ask them about their prospects coz if they don't think they're going anywhere they certainly don't see you going anywhere either.

Also if they get defensive and don't like that question that's an answer on of itself and you should gtfo anyway. If they're open it shows they can handle a little criticism and are less likely to be shitbag bosses.

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Hyrax Attack!: Jan 13, 2009; We demand to be taken seriously

honda whisperer posted:

We actually recently started a dead loving simple written test for applicants and it has helped a ton. Weeds out about half (obviously lied on their resume) and for the rest shows where they'll be good out the door and where they'll need training.

I can see how it would morph into hell in a corporate environment though.

A while ago someone posted about applicants who would describe themselves as Excel masters but melt down and accuse the interviewer of trickery when asked to make a simple pivot table.

# ? Mar 12, 2022 18:38

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