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McSpanky posted:^ lol I'm just not entirely convinced that continuity is all that important, especially in a franchise that's 56 years old and consists of 13 movies and 11 tv shows along with a bunch of related media, like TV specials and games and such. I get people being upset by massive changes to character motivations....if a character in one episode is portrayed as a kind and caring person and then in the next is a sadistic mass murderer or something, that's obviously jarring, but complaining because in TOS, the communicator chirped and in the Strange New Worlds trailer, the communicator made a sound like a ringtone? It just seems like fetishization of incidental effects to me.
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But that's the thing, they are using that nostalgia for marketing, it's supposed to be a cool moment for fans, but then loving up the execution ruins it. Begging the question again, who was that originally for to begin with?
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Mar 10, 2022 18:12
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Star Trek: THERE ARE *TWO* BEEPS
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Star Trek: THERE ARE *TWO* BEEPS I'm really proud of the fact that my thread title has stuck around so long but regardless I vote for this
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yeah, I'd just chalk it up to someone deciding the activation sound is more iconic or tested better or whatever I've barely seen any of TOS outside the movies so it didn't even register to me until I read this thread
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bull3964 posted:But that's the thing, they are using that nostalgia for marketing, it's supposed to be a cool moment for fans, but then loving up the execution ruins it. People like me, who remember TOS fondly but don't actually remember or care what the communicator sounded like?
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I laughed harder than I should have at this Even his death he is still skeeving me out.
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Mar 10, 2022 18:29
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I laughed harder than I should have at this Wait, you can kill a cardie by just pushing your finger into their spoon?
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happyhippy posted:Wait, you can kill a cardie by just pushing your finger into their spoon? It seems super obvious in hindsight.
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happyhippy posted:Wait, you can kill a cardie by just pushing your finger into their spoon? Miles o'Brien, hero of Setlik III, armed with nought but a stiff wooden dowel, killed 37 Cardies that day
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Mar 10, 2022 18:45
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Pegger O'Brien, they called him
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happyhippy posted:Wait, you can kill a cardie by just pushing your finger into their spoon? It’s their shutdown switch.
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Evolutionary version of the spot you have to shoot to cause damage on the level boss
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Epicurius posted:I'm just not entirely convinced that continuity is all that important, especially in a franchise that's 56 years old and consists of 13 movies and 11 tv shows along with a bunch of related media, like TV specials and games and such. I get people being upset by massive changes to character motivations....if a character in one episode is portrayed as a kind and caring person and then in the next is a sadistic mass murderer or something, that's obviously jarring, but complaining because in TOS, the communicator chirped and in the Strange New Worlds trailer, the communicator made a sound like a ringtone? It just seems like fetishization of incidental effects to me. It's very important that all Star Trek communication devices make the same sound universally, just like in real life phones. Edit: Pike is a classical music snob who set his communicator to play Baby Got Back.
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happyhippy posted:Wait, you can kill a cardie by just pushing your finger into their spoon? I hope green poo poo oozes out like when they stabbed those clone guys in X-Files
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I laughed harder than I should have at this He’s never looked better 
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bull3964 posted:But that's the thing, they are using that nostalgia for marketing, it's supposed to be a cool moment for fans, but then loving up the execution ruins it. Same thing as the "we're real fans, we read the same wikipedia articles" easter eggs in Disco and Picard. Respect for the macro is reflected in the micro, and vice versa. Things like this are like the suits wanting Enterprise to just be a straight-up Akira, or Disco's [stack overflow error] -- they're small and easy to miss or care about, sure. The same way all the birds flying away from the shore is.
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nine-gear crow posted:He’s never looked better I bet Evil Timeline Picard calls up Kira every year and puppets Dukat’s skull around reminding her he boned her mom
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Snow Cone Capone posted:https://twitter.com/Tyranicus/status/1501946987653992451?s=20&t=487ydNI-9mpDZArnkBFsNg Attention, Bone-joran workers...
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bull3964 posted:But that's the thing, they are using that nostalgia for marketing, it's supposed to be a cool moment for fans, but then loving up the execution ruins it. I've been obsessing about Star Trek for 30 loving years and didn't even notice this.
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Th actual worst part of the New Worlds trailer is that the horse didn’t immediately get spooked and throw it’s rider after getting buzzed by a shuttle.
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i have finally convinced a friend to watch ds9 with me from the start and im trying to decide if i should subject them to every episode or if i should be more sparing with seasons 1 and 2 to get to the good, meaty episodes quicker because sometimes they have a short attention span for stuff like this
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If they're losing attention then yeah skip ahead, especially the first few seasons
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If it's for a friend, yeah, you can definitely shorten season 1 of DS9 a bit to get to the good stuff. I think season 2 is pretty much solid though, unless season 1 didn't go too well. (Well, except Melora. Always skip Melora.) My season 1 essentials would be:
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bull3964 posted:The communicator is kinda annoying not because they changed the sound, but they substituted one sound for another. I seem to recall a TOS episode where Kirk was visibly annoyed by the communicator noises. Anybody else remember this?
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I think the short version for Season 1 is watch all the Kira and Odo episodes. Also Past Prologue because Garak
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Animal-Mother posted:Attention, Bone-joran workers...
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https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l9_OPrXHPYiclk-dWNAzMtsXcXm5v41WI The music of Star Trek has always been a huge part of the experience for me over the years. Somebody uploaded the TOS Season 3 soundtrack which has some great and memorable bits in it.
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I just watched Lower Decks season 2 and…holy moly they did it. They made a trek that an old fogey like me likes.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:I just watched Lower Decks season 2 and…holy moly they did it. They made a trek that an old fogey like me likes. Same, and they did it without being casually disrespectful of what came before, actually the exact opposite! Funny, that.
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There's always the possibility that the "ringtone" was added in for just the trailer.
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McSpanky posted:Same, and they did it without being casually disrespectful of what came before, actually the exact opposite! Funny, that. It's probably very embarrassing for me to admit, but the TO BE CONTINUED at the end of the season actually made me feel like a kid watching season-enders of TNG. Like...that pull out from the Cerritos? An amazing shot. I think everyone respects the effort they put in to the ships and space on that show but like...it was a moving shot that actually had thematic weight
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bltzn posted:There's always the possibility that the "ringtone" was added in for just the trailer. Or that fans gettin' Mad Online about it will get them to update it before release.
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I hope they add a full-on Nokia ringtone to it again just so everyone complaining about it has another 20-page meltdown
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It should have made the TNG communicator beep for maximum nerd psyche damage.
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Penitent posted:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l9_OPrXHPYiclk-dWNAzMtsXcXm5v41WI That's not the season 3 soundtrack, that's just "volume 3". La La Lands did a boxset of the entire series soundtrack about... oh wow, ten years ago now.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:That's not the season 3 soundtrack, that's just "volume 3". ... that makes a lot more sense considering I'm remembering the 'Ruth' theme being used in earlier episodes.
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feedmyleg posted:Or that fans gettin' Mad Online about it will get them to update it before release. The interesting thing though is that unlike Star Wars, Star Trek just seems to quietly plug along doing its own thing its own way generally oblivious to, or actively ignoring all the brainpopping nerd ragers, whereas Star Wars caters to their every whim through reactive panic after reactive panic and can never get ahead of that curve because they simply find something new to get mad at. There's probably some intern at CBS whose job is to routinely run up to Alex Kurtzman and tell him that people think Star Trek Discovery absolutely blows a whole farm's worth of donkey nuts and then walk away dejected when Kurtzman just blankly looks at him and goes "And...?"
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