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Panzeh posted:I don't know, a lot of games seem to manage to tell you 'hey, this is easy mode, or this is story mode' by telling you 'this is easy mode'. Not 'look up a wiki/youtube for the best ways to lame the game out'. This is utterly fascinating please continue.
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It's pretty dumb to imply that "just look up the most op strategies/builds/items online and use those" is functionally equivalent to a selectable difficulty mode. For one thing, the game should actually have a hard mode so you can use all the exploits and op strats from online without steamrolling everything
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Mar 13, 2022 00:57
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Sekiro and DS2 did. No idea if ones in elden
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:It's pretty dumb to imply that "just look up the most op strategies/builds/items online and use those" is functionally equivalent to a selectable difficulty mode. No one implied that. You don't need to go online to figure out how to level up or improve your gear or summon other players.
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Mar 13, 2022 01:08
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Panzeh posted:I don't know, a lot of games seem to manage to tell you 'hey, this is easy mode, or this is story mode' by telling you 'this is easy mode'. Not 'look up a wiki/youtube for the best ways to lame the game out'. That's right, the games that are known for not holding your hand don't just provide an Easy setting that give you god mode or whatever. They give you the tools to make the game easy and then let you figure it out. Think of it like a puzzle if you want to; Baba Is You doesn't have an Easy mode that just auto-solves the puzzles, you have to figure out how to play the game on your own. QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Mar 13, 2022 |
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Mar 13, 2022 01:28
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QuarkJets posted:That's right, the games that are known for not holding your hand don't just provide an Easy setting that give you god mode or whatever. They give you the tools to make the game easy and then let you figure it out. Think of it like a puzzle if you want to; Baby Is You doesn't have an Easy mode that just auto-solves the puzzles, you have to figure out how to play the game on your own. What games really need to do is add a puzzle to walking- perhaps, you should have qwop controls to move without falling down, talk about not holding your hand. Oh, you have the tools to do it, q, w, o, and p, and you could even use an autohotkey script to make it easy. Why do you babies want a control scheme?
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Perhaps it's time you go play some other made up games in your head? This one is clearly not for you.
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I'm wearing a shirt right now that says: "Equal rights for others does not mean less rights for you. It's not pie." I believe that all of you are smart enough to take a step back and actually think about how difficulty modes in video games don't take anything away from you personally but can make things better for others. If you can't get over that then kiwifarms is just a few clicks away.
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm wearing a shirt right now that says: "Equal rights for others does not mean less rights for you. It's not pie." Yeah, your experience is not destroyed because, when you hit new game, you chose 'normal mode' instead of 'easy mode' or whatever instead of not having it.
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm wearing a shirt right now that says: "Equal rights for others does not mean less rights for you. It's not pie." https://hard-drive.net/welp-looks-like-elden-ring-has-bought-off-every-single-reviewer/
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I'm still laughing by the way. What a take.
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that's exactly what I was talking about lol. Any time someone gets mad at Dark Souls being too hard they pretend like it's actually some moral obligation to make an easy mode. I've seen people go as far as weaving strawmen about how it's actually "about people with disabilities" and other loads of poo poo. If you are too lazy to learn the game at all, that's ok. There's literally a million other games out there for you to play that all have very transparent difficulty sliders. Also people have been whining for 14 years and Fromsoft has never once even hinted that they were going to add anything like that so it's probably just time to learn how to play it or move on and play something else.
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veni veni veni posted:that's exactly what I was talking about lol. Any time someone gets mad at Dark Souls being too hard they pretend like it's actually some moral obligation to make an easy mode. I've seen people go as far as weaving strawmen about how it's actually "about people with disabilities" and other loads of poo poo. If you are too lazy to learn the game at all, that's ok. There's literally a million other games out there for you to play that all have very transparent difficulty sliders. every time someone suggests that these games would be better with an easy mode, someone comes out there like there's a moral obligation to tell them that this is actually perfection, the game would be ruined with an easy mode, though obviously they aren't furiously ddosing every site where you can get a trainer to do what that would do
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Panzeh posted:every time someone suggests that these games would be better with an easy mode, someone comes out there like there's a moral obligation to tell them that this is actually perfection, the game would be ruined with an easy mode, though obviously they aren't furiously ddosing every site where you can get a trainer to do what that would do Yes interesting point of view. If the situation can be remedied with a trainer why do you keep posting about how they should change the game? What is the endgame here? You'll just keep imagining darksouls with easymode and be mad on the internet that it doesn't exist until we all think it is a good idea?
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Vic posted:Yes interesting point of view. If the situation can be remedied with a trainer why do you keep posting about how they should change the game? What is the endgame here? You'll just keep imagining darksouls with easymode and be mad on the internet that it doesn't exist until we all think it is a good idea? might as well not post saying anything you don't like about a game ever
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Panzeh posted:What games really need to do is add a puzzle to walking- perhaps, you should have qwop controls to move without falling down, talk about not holding your hand. Oh, you have the tools to do it, q, w, o, and p, and you could even use an autohotkey script to make it easy. Why do you babies want a control scheme? You’re just describing the simulator genre. You understand that these games give you a tutorial on basic controls and features, including how to make fights easier with summons, right? It's just the more advanced stuff like parry timing and where to find the best spells you have to figure out. QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Mar 13, 2022 |
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm wearing a shirt right now that says: "Equal rights for others does not mean less rights for you. It's not pie." The quality of consumer products is not the same as civil rights.
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm wearing a shirt right now that says: "Equal rights for others does not mean less rights for you. It's not pie." What we're all saying is that all of the souls games already have an Easy Mode, it's just something you get through game mechanics instead of a menu option
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Mar 13, 2022 02:54
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QuarkJets posted:What we're all saying is that all of the souls games already have an Easy Mode, it's just something you get through game mechanics instead of a menu option And what i'm saying is that's a really dumb way to do it. Our game has things that break it and make it easy, so we don't need to have a menu option to make the game easy.
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They aren't that hard really, you could do it if you just believed in yourself. They start out challenging but once you figure out the gameplay they become manageable for just about everyone.
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99% of games are targeted at people like you. Can you just let the souls fans alone. Stop having such sour grapes about it, the fun of the drat games is learning how to overcome challenge, you're clearly not interested in that so why persist in calling for the same debasement of a game every single time one is released.
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Elden Ring seems like a good game. It looks pretty and the world seems interesting. Not my style of game but I'm gonna enjoy watching people play it. Wish it had a tonne of super colourful effects, tho, for I am simple minded and enjoy them. Genuinely tho the combat and movement is not "gamey" enough for me, but I loving love huge open worlds with no direction explicitly given. See: Morrowind. I'm just broke brained and gotta go fast all the time.
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Gaius Marius posted:99% of games are targeted at people like you. Can you just let the souls fans alone. Stop having such sour grapes about it, the fun of the drat games is learning how to overcome challenge, you're clearly not interested in that so why persist in calling for the same debasement of a game every single time one is released. oh no, there was a difficulty option when i started the new game, it is now debased, awful, horrible!
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Yes correct glad we're finally in the same page
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Why the hell people don't complain about GTA games not having a difficulty slider? I've died in random missions in GTA games way more than to bosses in souls games. Boggles the mind. I blame the memes.
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Gaius Marius posted:Yes correct glad we're finally in the same page you have to be extremely dumb to think fromsoft games are the only challenging games that exist, lol Vic posted:Why the hell people don't complain about GTA games not having a difficulty slider? I've died in random missions in GTA games way more than to bosses in souls games. Boggles the mind. honestly, that'd probably improve that game, too have a bunch of sliders for enemy health, player health, car handling, etc, when gta isn't pretending to be a profound crime story, it's about loving around
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also gta should have a gravity slider so you can make it like you're on the moon, too
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Elden Ring brings out the worst possible opinions and makes everyone seem obsessive tbh, no matter what side you're on. It's just a game. Also my unpopular opinion is that for all but a handful of games the story and writing is pretty unimportant. It can make it better, but as long as I have fun the story and writing I can overlook.
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FromSoft games attract a lot of opinions from people who have not played them for some reason.
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Panzeh posted:And what i'm saying is that's a really dumb way to do it. Our game has things that break it and make it easy, so we don't need to have a menu option to make the game easy. I don't agree but that's fine
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syntaxfunction posted:Elden Ring brings out the worst possible opinions and makes everyone seem obsessive tbh, no matter what side you're on. It's just a game. fromsoft fanboys are some of the smuggest motherfuckers about their games that i've ever seen
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GTA games should have difficulties, but also, like, after how dogshit not for me GTA IV and the 10 minutes I could stomach of V its not like Im gonna try VI unless its on some general subscription service I already had and theyve sold hundreds of millions of copies without me so they should 100% ignore my opinion.
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i don't know anything about this Elden Ring game, i'm replaying System Shock 2.
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Beartaco posted:The quality of consumer products is not the same as civil rights. Ha! Tell that to the internet
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tango alpha delta posted:i don't know anything about this Elden Ring game Don't let that stop you from being super angry about it
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tango alpha delta posted:i don't know anything about this Elden Ring game, i'm replaying System Shock 2. hell yeah navy, marine, or psi?
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:hell yeah navy this time. Just left for training on Space Station Chesapeake Bay.
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If they even took a second to consider the idea of bad gamers while developing souls games, they would lose their mindset which created one of the best games in a longtime. The poor gamer can't even be considered for a second, they must only focus on the most powerful and discerning video game players.
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