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i'm against the stupid self checkouts because as aformentioned, putting people out of work; i'd begrudgingly tolerate them if they replaced the ten items or less aisles, but seeing people take forever doing $300 worth of groceries themselves when a cashier could do it like ten times faster is a special kind of hell
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Mar 13, 2022 02:27
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What possible purpose could those door screens serve!?
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Mar 13, 2022 02:34
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I'm an overpaid clerk at a post office with a self-service kiosk, and all that thing is good for is being a trap to make recipients of parcels pay postage due. People just select the cheapest option all the time to send something, typically out of ignorance, and it gets marked up for postage due by a clerk doing dispatch because it's pretty fuckin obvious that your bulky parcel is not a large envelope. Same goes for those online shipping services lioe Stamps.com. There's some poo poo you're allowed to get away with for using commercial shipping, like being able to go up to sixteen ounces for first class parcels, but people try to send stuff over the limit for first class, don't know the weight of their parcel, or flub the dimensions to get a lower rate for ground or priority. It pisses people off that they have to pay forty bucks on a bigass package because the seller cut corners. I had a lady today wondering why she needed to pay forty-two dollars for a package. It only weighed a few pounds, the item itself was something small, but the seller sent it in a box way too big, used the cheapest shipping method to save themselves money on the platform they used, and is going to get their package back because the lady refused.
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Mar 13, 2022 02:41
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Deuce posted:What possible purpose could those door screens serve!? quote:Every Walgreens I go to is absolute poo poo at beverage stocking  *I still buy the majority of my way-too-much-Diet Coke there; for whatever weird reason they have the best soda prices. Although buying three every time is annoying and probably contributes to my addiction.
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Mar 13, 2022 02:46
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Craig K posted:i'm against the stupid self checkouts because as aformentioned, putting people out of work; i'd begrudgingly tolerate them if they replaced the ten items or less aisles, but seeing people take forever doing $300 worth of groceries themselves when a cashier could do it like ten times faster is a special kind of hell I'm a big fan of self-checkouts for the simple reason that they make it easier for me to steal stuff
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Mar 13, 2022 09:58
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Deuce posted:What possible purpose could those door screens serve!? someone made money selling them.
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Mar 13, 2022 13:51
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Star Man posted:I'm an overpaid clerk at a post office with a self-service kiosk, and all that thing is good for is being a trap to make recipients of parcels pay postage due. People just select the cheapest option all the time to send something, typically out of ignorance, and it gets marked up for postage due by a clerk doing dispatch because it's pretty fuckin obvious that your bulky parcel is not a large envelope. This is a new hilarious angle on this thanks for posting.
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Mar 13, 2022 14:00
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RBA Starblade posted:I've never seen lanes 2, 3, and 5-11 in use anywhere anyway thats because the grocery store stopped hiring cashiers when they opened the self-checkout lane
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Mar 13, 2022 14:23
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Cow Bell posted:thats because the grocery store stopped hiring cashiers when they opened the self-checkout lane Even before that
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Mar 13, 2022 14:27
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RBA Starblade posted:Even before that Then your store was slow.
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Mar 13, 2022 14:28
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Cow Bell posted:Then your store was slow. It is a fact that every retail operation was staffed to absolute peak efficiency before those dastardly self serve machines were invented
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Mar 13, 2022 15:37
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Deuce posted:What possible purpose could those door screens serve!? Hieronymous Alloy posted:someone made money selling them. There is no piece of technology so dumb that someone won't install it at every opportunity.
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Mar 13, 2022 15:48
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Winco has stores with some 15+ lanes I think, but never in my years of shopping there have I ever seen every single one in operation on a busy day. When things get busy, especially as they were during the various covid/supply shortage panic buys, they're lucky to have half the lanes open and each one stretching all the way to the back of the store. If they replaced half those lanes with self-checkout, that could actually be an improvement. Safeway's deli team used to have to put individual stickers for each item in a bag. When I would self-checkout, I would only scan one bar code, because the machine would bitch at me about the weight being off if I didn't put it on the tray or removed it to do the second tag. AFAIK this is still the case but unless you've got an iron stomach it's not worth eating food at the safeway deli on a regular basis. Anyway, implement a universal basic income so we can let the rest of the machines take our jobs.
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Mar 13, 2022 15:55
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It's pretty fuckin' crazy when you go into a grocery store pre-Hurricane/Blizzard or when Covid is spiking, and it's absolutely slammed, probably doing easily five figures of sales per hour, and they won't spend, what, a hundred loving dollars to have all the register lanes going. I've never seen all of them in use either, and probably never seen more than four in a store with self-checkouts.
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Mar 13, 2022 16:04
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Freakazoid_ posted:Anyway, implement a universal basic income so we can let the rest of the machines take our jobs. UBI is absolutely essential, and probably coming within 10-20 years; let's hope it's not one that reduces social support like Andrew Yang's. (A UBI without universal healthcare and some kind of housing guarantee would not work very well.) The main thing, and this is something I hoped people would've realized in spring 2020, but it seems they didn't, is that such a huge, huge portion of the "work" that gets done is totally useless. Take the Walgreens refrigerator thing. Somebody designed that loving fridge door, people built them, somebody went around convincing people they were useful, executives spent time procuring them, people installed them. That's millions and millions of dollars in economic activity, thousands and thousands of man-hours, with an end result that made the world unequivocally shittier.
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Mar 13, 2022 16:10
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Mellow Seas posted:UBI is absolutely essential, and probably coming within 10-20 years; let's hope it's not one that reduces social support like Andrew Yang's. (A UBI without universal healthcare and some kind of housing guarantee would not work very well.) It's the natural endpoint of the concept of "work" on it's own being elevated to some innate virtue. Even if it accomplished absolutely nothing, you Worked(tm)
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Mar 13, 2022 16:52
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Mellow Seas posted:UBI is absolutely essential, and probably coming within 10-20 years; let's hope it's not one that reduces social support like Andrew Yang's. (A UBI without universal healthcare and some kind of housing guarantee would not work very well.) Not to be rude but I don't know how you can look at a country that's been fighting for a meager increase in minimum wage for 15 years and think that UBI is on the horizon in that same time frame in the future.
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Mar 13, 2022 17:06
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Froghammer posted:Ever been to Philadelphia? We have solar-powered trashcans that barely loving work on most Center City street corners. What function of a trashcan requires power
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Mar 13, 2022 17:08
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Self checkout is nice if you're a wreck who doesn't want to interact with a cashier.
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Mar 13, 2022 17:11
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Mellow Seas posted:Every Walgreens I go to is absolute poo poo at beverage stocking, and all their refrigerator/shelving space for beverages is always like 2/3 empty*. So I guess, in theory, it makes your store look less ugly and barren (until somebody physically opens the door). But there has to be a cheaper way of accomplishing that goal - like, sell a couple fridges, maybe? Or just cover a couple with a banner? Also those displays kind of look like poo poo and would obviously be frustrating if inaccurate, which they would always be because Reminder that Walgreens was the company that partnered with loving Theranos to put their scam machines in every pharmacy.
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Mar 13, 2022 17:24
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Andorra posted:Not to be rude but I don't know how you can look at a country that's been fighting for a meager increase in minimum wage for 15 years and think that UBI is on the horizon in that same time frame in the future. It's just, I think eventually they'll have no choice. The same reason that the WPA or Social Security was passed, or why Covid relief was passed: because the costs of not doing the thing were higher to the elites (in the form of extreme social unrest) than the cost of doing the thing. The fact that a prominent (if clearly unviable) primary candidate talked about it in 2020, and that some (extremely limited) "free money" provisions passed during the pandemic, makes it seem like it's being "felt out" by the ruling classes. Think about the status of legal marijuana 25 years ago when the first medical laws were passed. It probably seemed pretty unlikely then, but now most Americans can get marijuana if they have a medical need, and a large minority can buy recreational weed from dispensaries. That "toe in the door" effect can be pretty pronounced. Hell, the Fight for 15 started just 10 years ago, as a grassroots action with very little support, and we did manage to get 42 votes for its inclusion in the ARP. (With the major caveat that $15 in 2012 is $18 now.) Considering how broken the federal government's legislative apparatus is, and will continue to be for a while, I wonder if states or municipalities will begin to implement UBI (presumably with length-of-residency minimums) before the Feds do. That's what happened with weed and minimum wage, where many Americans now live under reasonable laws despite the US Congress's pathological inaction. I could also be, you know, totally wrong. Happens to the best of us (so why shouldn't it also happen to me?).
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Mar 13, 2022 17:29
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CaPensiPraxis posted:What function of a trashcan requires power They’re probably meant to be compacting, so you can fit more trash in the can between emptying.
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Mar 13, 2022 17:30
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Keyser_Soze posted:Also, never let your tank get below 3/4 full then you don't notice the cost topping off all the time. Mellow Seas posted:UBI is absolutely essential, and probably coming within 10-20 years I personally like self check out, but I also don't think for a minute they were installed for the publics good. Was entirely done to make the customer do the labor for free
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Mar 13, 2022 17:31
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tk posted:This is a new hilarious angle on this thanks for posting. The only way to steal postage is to drop something off at a collection box or over the counter with prepaid postage of some amount and everyone handling never notices it, or it's given to the carrier and they just deliver it without attempting to collect for it. The carriers don't know anything about postage because it's not their job to know, and I have no idea what knowledge about postage the mail handlers have at the sorting plants. If it gets caught, it gets written up for postage due, then a carrier can opt to try to collect postage from the address it's going to, leave a notice for pickup where the recipient can pay the difference, or it can be refused and sent back and then it's the sender's problem.
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Mar 13, 2022 17:57
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ANIME AKBAR posted:Reminder that Walgreens was the company that partnered with loving Theranos to put their scam machines in every pharmacy.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:01
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s not really Walgreens’ fault that they got scammed by Theranos It kinda is. I get why consumers would fall for the scam but what Theranos was promising seems like it should be obviously impossible to any expert in the field.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:03
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punishedkissinger posted:It kinda is. I get why consumers would fall for the scam but what Theranos was promising seems like it should be obviously impossible to any expert in the field. Yeah, Walgreens is hardly a victim. They're just complicit in the crime that is unfettered capitalism. They should make store windows that are video screens to make it look like people still shop at Walgreens. I do not understand why someone would voluntarily go into one.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:06
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:They should make store windows that are video screens to make it look like people still shop at Walgreens. I do not understand why someone would voluntarily go into one.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:10
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Craig K posted:i'm against the stupid self checkouts because as aformentioned, putting people out of work; i'd begrudgingly tolerate them if they replaced the ten items or less aisles, but seeing people take forever doing $300 worth of groceries themselves when a cashier could do it like ten times faster is a special kind of hell While understandable, I sort of hate we are in a place where automating menial labor is seeing as a negative because of job loss. I don't mean this as an accusation, but It's also very inconsistent on where particular people care about people being put out of work. Companies downsize and remove positions all the time, workflows and processes get streamlined. Things go out of fashion or become obsolete. But the two times it feels like we hear about wanting to keep jobs around are when it involves menial service jobs or like, coal mining and oil and gas.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:18
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punishedkissinger posted:It kinda is. I get why consumers would fall for the scam but what Theranos was promising seems like it should be obviously impossible to any expert in the field. If you read "Bad Blood", Walgreen's own investigator tried repeatedly to warn them that Theranos was full of poo poo, but the CEO insisted on going through with the partnership. One of the fascinating parts of the book is how Theranos was repeatedly exposed by experts, over and over, but the people in charge refused to listen.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:23
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Oxyclean posted:While understandable, I sort of hate we are in a place where automating menial labor is seeing as a negative because of job loss. I think a lot of that comes from it being the only game in town for all those small mining/extraction towns. They don't want to or can't afford to move to a more diverse opportunity area.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:26
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Oxyclean posted:While understandable, I sort of hate we are in a place where automating menial labor is seeing as a negative because of job loss. Self-checkout is not automating menial labor. It's just shifting it from being a paid position to unpaid labor by the consumer.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:35
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Oxyclean posted:While understandable, I sort of hate we are in a place where automating menial labor is seeing as a negative because of job loss. The problem isn't automation or streamlining themselves. The problem is that under capitalism, automation results in bigger profits for the capital class at the expense of the working class. Ideally, in a worker controlled economy, increased productivity from automation would mean shorter hours for the same pay, or greater pay for the same hours, or some other benefit to reflect the fact that workers are more productive. Instead it's just "lol you're fired, learn to code lmao". Any time something gets streamlined or a position gets removed, it's more money for the execs and gently caress you to the workers. It's exactly the same for both white and blue collar work, but there's a whole host of reasons for why that divide exists in the first place. Fun fact, this is basically what the Luddites were all about. Contrary to popular belief, Luddism isn't generally anti-technology, but rather opposed to the unequal sharing of the boons of technology. They burned down textile factories because they were robbing weavers of their livelihoods. But for some reason, "luddite" has become a pejorative for someone who just hates technology because they're dumb and crazy I guess.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:54
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Craig K posted:i'm against the stupid self checkouts because as aformentioned, putting people out of work; i'd begrudgingly tolerate them if they replaced the ten items or less aisles, but seeing people take forever doing $300 worth of groceries themselves when a cashier could do it like ten times faster is a special kind of hell All the ones in our local chain are 10 items or less, and compact enough that they can fit 10 or so into the space of 2-3 normal lanes. They also keep the normal lanes fully opened at peak times so it feels like more of an efficiency thing. They also have 2 or so people in that area to assist so it’s not like jobs are lost as a result either. I can totally understand it sucking if a store is doing that in lieu of opening any normal lanes though (The Targets and Walmarts near us are notoriously bad about this)
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Fister Roboto posted:Fun fact, this is basically what the Luddites were all about. Contrary to popular belief, Luddism isn't generally anti-technology, but rather opposed to the unequal sharing of the boons of technology. They burned down textile factories because they were robbing weavers of their livelihoods. But for some reason, "luddite" has become a pejorative for someone who just hates technology because they're dumb and crazy I guess. Basically the factory owners took the expertise and designs of the weavers, stole them, automated them, and never compensated them. A modern take on that might be software devs incorporating mods or Fortnite stealing viral dances and never paying the creators.
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Mar 13, 2022 19:14
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PeterCat posted:Self-checkout is not automating menial labor. It's just shifting it from being a paid position to unpaid labor by the consumer. But the way I see it, is by in large, people don't want to be cashiers. In a UBI or post-scarcity world, we probably wouldn't want to have cashiers, unless like, someone really wants to be one? Fister Roboto posted:The problem isn't automation or streamlining themselves. The problem is that under capitalism, automation results in bigger profits for the capital class at the expense of the working class. Ideally, in a worker controlled economy, increased productivity from automation would mean shorter hours for the same pay, or greater pay for the same hours, or some other benefit to reflect the fact that workers are more productive. Instead it's just "lol you're fired, learn to code lmao". Any time something gets streamlined or a position gets removed, it's more money for the execs and gently caress you to the workers. It's exactly the same for both white and blue collar work, but there's a whole host of reasons for why that divide exists in the first place.
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Mar 13, 2022 19:50
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Bird in a Blender posted:They’re probably meant to be compacting, so you can fit more trash in the can between emptying. That's exactly what they are and while i have no idea if they work well or not it's not a bad idea
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SimonChris posted:If you read "Bad Blood", Walgreen's own investigator tried repeatedly to warn them that Theranos was full of poo poo, but the CEO insisted on going through with the partnership. One of the fascinating parts of the book is how Theranos was repeatedly exposed by experts, over and over, but the people in charge refused to listen. That episode of "The Dropout" was this week! Harry from Mad Men was the investigator and was ignored and blocked repeatedly and the deal basically went forward because Walgreens execs were terrified of CVS or Safeway getting "this new technology from Silicon Valley like Facebook!" first.
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Jaxyon posted:Basically the factory owners took the expertise and designs of the weavers, stole them, automated them, and never compensated them. Also companies incorporating Open Source libraries and tech, then getting mad because the unpaid contributors are not doing exactly what those companies want when they need patches/support.
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