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alex314 posted:Cyrillic is the superior way of writing, you just write what you hear. No need to figure out what foreign spelling style you need to use. Or if it's English George or French George... проста пиши то, што ты слушаешь! как лигко, мой друк! lamenting the loss of lipton of all things is extremely russian https://twitter.com/SovietSergey/status/1502764505926877190 worst thing about visiting in the past was that all the actually good asian bottled tea brands were nowhere to be found
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This is me months ago when the paper bags that I like to use for my lunch sandwiches were out of stock because the supplier couldn't get material for them. I had to get a lunch box instead, wtf.
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:проста пиши то, што ты слушаешь! как лигко, мой друк! No Doritos, no McDonald's, no sugar sludge water... Sounds like Russia has it figured out
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The Instagram ban in Russia going into force on Monday is going to release a wave of bad vibes previously unseen into collective Russian psyche https://twitter.com/prayer4ukraine/status/1502437794618171396
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Rinkles posted:Is Tiktok staying put? No, they restricted the usage in Russia some days ago. I think Russians can no longer upload content, and they can only watch content uploaded from Russia.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://www.lsm.lv/raksts/zinas/arz...ieniba.a447712/ cinci zoo sniper posted:No, they restricted the usage in Russia some days ago. I think Russians can no longer upload content, and they can only watch content uploaded from Russia.
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The Serbian thing is also a rebuke to Germany, who, in rather tone deaf fashion, timed their support for Serbian accession right after ruling out an accelerated accession process for Ukraine. Off the top of my head, of course. Edit: humorously, my floor has three flats, occupied by Latvians, a Serb and an Ukrainian couple respectively.
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mobby_6kl posted:I wonder how China feels about that It looked like TikTok taking initiative, not being ordered to do that.
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Nobody in Serbia expects to see their country in the EU in any foreseeable future so this isn't a shock. And why would EU take another problematic semi-democratic nationalist government full of thugs? Just to reduce Russian and Chinese influence in Serbia?mobby_6kl posted:Are they still salty about not getting an ethnicly clean greater Serbia? Yes. Every country has their nationalists, but they mostly accept the borders and care what happens inside them. Serbia, like Russia, likes to eye opportunities on the other side of the border.
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Ukrainian journalists got into the house of Victor Medvedchuk, Putin's close friend who managed to escape house arrest just before the invasion. So guess what time it is? Horrible post-soviet opulence time!! https://twitter.com/nakipeloua/status/1503078381373566986 https://www.slidstvo.info/articles/zolotyj-vagon-medvedchuka/ Dude has a loving luxury railway car parked at his (not for long lmao) estate
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fatherboxx posted:Ukrainian journalists got into the house of Victor Medvedchuk, Putin's close friend who managed to escape house arrest just before the invasion. So guess what time it is? Horrible post-soviet opulence time!! Not gonna lie that's a pretty sweet train car. Pity about the owner.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Latvian phonetics enrage me, because not only we do bunch of annoying sound substitutions, but also you must make sure you have gender-correct name endings. Some examples Im really curious why Mauno Koivisto of all people got into that list. Finland used to translate the names or royalty untill 2002. So king Louis is Ludvig, Carl Gustaf is Kaarle Kustaa, George is Yrjö which also happens to mean vomit in colloquial Finnish. But that is no longer the case for new ones, if prince Charles ever becomes king he would stay Charles instead of becoming a cooler Kaarle.
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bad_fmr posted:Im really curious why Mauno Koivisto of all people got into that list. I wanted to find a male name that goes unchanged, which for foreign names means that all words in it must end with a vowel sound (that's why George gets a different ending, the last sound isn't a vowel). A minor concern was to avoid elongated vowel as wells, but in my experience with Estonian and Finnish names - we tend to write them as is, and so I searched for a list of Finnish presidents.
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Interesting. Does the fact that his middle name is Henrik change the way it is written, if all the words have to end in vowel sound? Also alot of Finnish surnames end with the -nen suffix (Kimi Räikkönen, Jari Litmanen) which would make them end in consonant.
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bad_fmr posted:Interesting. Does the fact that his middle name is Henrik change the way it is written, if all the words have to end in vowel sound? Oh, that doesn’t change all words. The words that end with consonants will get an -s appended to it, so Mauno Henriks Koivisto, Kimi Reikenens, and Jari Litmanens.
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bad_fmr posted:Im really curious why Mauno Koivisto of all people got into that list. Okay, yes, this is infuriating. I was more than a decade out of high school when I realized that Charlemagne is actually the same guy as Kārlis Lielais. And the names of French kings were all over the place depending on when exactly they were translated. Luī, Luijs, Ludviķis. bad_fmr posted:Interesting. Does the fact that his middle name is Henrik change the way it is written, if all the words have to end in vowel sound? Nah. There are 6 possible endings, 3 for masculine and 3 for feminine, with known exceptions for loanwords and some person and place names. Which is weird again, because, for instance, Turku will not be Latvianised, but Malmo will become Malme. So, Koistinen would become Koistinens or Koistinena, depending on the gender of the person, whereas Kaurismäki will change to Kaurismeki, with the ending unchanged and applicable to any gender for reasons unclear, yet somehow intuitive.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Oh, that doesn’t change all words. The words that end with consonants will get an -s appended to it, so Mauno Henriks Koivisto, Kimi Reikenens, and Jari Litmanens. a podcast for cats posted:So, Koistinen would become Koistinens or Koistinena, depending on the gender of the person, whereas Kaurismäki will change to Kaurismeki, with the ending unchanged and applicable to any gender for reasons unclear, yet somehow intuitive. Ah, makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
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a podcast for cats posted:Nah. There are 6 possible endings, 3 for masculine and 3 for feminine, with known exceptions for loanwords and some person and place names. Which is weird again, because, for instance, Turku will not be Latvianised, but Malmo will become Malme. Turku stays Turku because Finns say “Turku”. Malmö is Malme because Swedes say “Malme”. The real inconsistency here is Gothenburg being Gēteborga, when it’s pronounced Joteborje - because we probably learned of German version of it first, historically.
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Old school handling of foreign names in Czech was to just append -ová to the surname of women, so that it had a recognizable shape that you could use to form different grammar forms. Nowadays we don't do that until we need the suffix to change to carry meaning, and to use different suffixes according to the name. There are some people trying to stop people from changing suffixes of foreign names, but I think that's wrong because it breaks the grammar, and the argument of "well the name doesn't work like that" is bad, because taken to the logical conclusion, you'd have to e.g. pick right one of 7 different forms of my name to use based on grammatical conceits that DO NOT EVEN EXIST IN ENGLISH.
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A weird thing Lithuanians do with women's last names is that the ending depends on the marital status of the woman. Surnames of married women invariably end with -ienė while unmarried women's names can end with either -aitė, -ytė, -utė, and -iūtė. I'm not knowledgeable enough to explain whether, why or how it relates to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect, but it seems to do in some way.
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a podcast for cats posted:A weird thing Lithuanians do with women's last names is that the ending depends on the marital status of the woman. Surnames of married women invariably end with -ienė while unmarried women's names can end with either -aitė, -ytė, -utė, and -iūtė. I’ve asked this once to a Lithuanian lass I know, and she told me that I’m crazy and there’s no such thing. 
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Seems to have been made optional in 2003. According to Wikipedia at least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_name#Feminine_forms
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a podcast for cats posted:Seems to have been made optional in 2003. According to Wikipedia at least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_name#Feminine_forms That would make sense, with the one I spoke to being a fairly cosmopolitan gal in her 20s. Also does explain why I similarly thought of that being the case with Lithuanian surnames.
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In Polish there are masculine and feminine forms of some surnames. If a masculine surname ends in i or y, the feminine form ends in a. However, names that end in consonants don't have male and female forms.
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I can't imagine having different surname forms based on marital status, but in Czech every surname has a masculine and a feminine form.
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Xarn posted:Old school handling of foreign names in Czech was to just append -ová to the surname of women, so that it had a recognizable shape that you could use to form different grammar forms. Nowadays we don't do that until we need the suffix to change to carry meaning, and to use different suffixes according to the name. It's a tough dilemma, on the one hand I don't like adding "ová" to foreign names that technically don't need it, on the other hand using raw English names with no declensions (e.g. "viděl jsi ten nový film s Amy Adams?")is such an insufferably ostentatious dipshit poseur move, id rather slap myself than do it.
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I'll put this here because this might get lost in the clutter of the bigger thread. Any idea, what's the legal status of Ukrainian citizens "evacuated" (or whatever you call it) from Ukraine to Russia? There's a thread on reddit where some guy is asking for border crossing advice. It's for his mother-in-law (an Ukrainian citizen), to get from Russia to Estonia. No doubt we would take her in but she would need to get out of Russia first. He asked for illegal border crossing tips but apparently getting caught exiting illegally would mean jail time in Russia so our collective hive mind is recommending him not to risk that. Being "evacuated" doesn't exactly mean entering Russia legally to begin with. jonnypeh fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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jonnypeh posted:I'll put this here because this might get lost in the clutter of the bigger thread. Only Russian government will be able to tell that, which is part of the reason why Ukrainian government is decrying corridors to Russia as hostage taking. From what I’ve read, people “evacuated” from the proxies were accommodated on “well, if I must” basis. That woman should call Estonia’s Russian embassy or consulate.
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Mr. Apollo posted:In Polish there are masculine and feminine forms of some surnames. If a masculine surname ends in i or y, the feminine form ends in a. However, names that end in consonants don't have male and female forms. And then there are last names like mine, ending with „a” which would imply feminine, but it actually doesn’t change between genders. My wife could informally change the „a” to „owa” though, which would make it super folksy/eastern.
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Interestingly, at one point there was a form of recognizing the marital status in a woman's surname in Finnish language, and it stemmed from Swedish/German. Traditionally feminity could be indicated in words describing an occupation or status with a -tar/tär suffix (comes from tytär = daughter). So king is kuningas but queen is kuningatar. Actor is näyttelijä, actress is näyttelijätär. You get the point. In 1800's the society was transforming in cities and a new kind of social life developed in which the wives of dignitaries insisted on getting recognized by their husbands' titles. This was copied from Swedish because many of them still were Swedes, so Swedish doktorska (wife of doctor) would become tohtorska in Finnish. This was done with every even slightly prestigious title, so army wives would get called kapteeniska or luutnantiska, in university you might meet a professorska and at church a pastorska or rovastinna (the -nna suffix came from German, e.g. der Lehrer - die Lehrerin). But it didn't end there, what rich people do first the poor people try to follow. The wives of working men couldn't use nice titles, but instead the husband's family name would be used. So the wife of Litmanen would be referred to as Litmaska etc. This practise wasn't ever official but apparently pretty widespread, to the point where Finnish language puritans campaigned against it as unfitting. Nowadays all of that sounds archaic, women want to be recognized for their own accomplishments and don't even have to take their husband's name, a practise which was codified in 1929 and then reversed in 1985. Before 1920 there was even no law requiring a person to have last name which is a pretty late development in Finnish language anyway, patronyms being the usual way.
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a podcast for cats posted:A weird thing Lithuanians do with women's last names is that the ending depends on the marital status of the woman. Surnames of married women invariably end with -ienė while unmarried women's names can end with either -aitė, -ytė, -utė, and -iūtė. The -ienė comes from the patriarchal family model being reflected in the last names, the ending says that the woman is the wife of a man and -ytė/ūtė signify an unmarried daughter E.g. the man is born with and keeps his last name Goonys/Gūnys unchanged through his life. His wife after marriage becomes Goonienė (or currently it's common to combine the maiden name and the husband's name over a dash Maidenytė-Goonienė). Their unmarried daughter would be Goonytė until she decides to change it The progressive thing to do now for women is to add just -ė which hides the marital status. Interestingly historically it was used if the husband died and the woman became a widow cinci zoo sniper posted:I’ve asked this once to a Lithuanian lass I know, and she told me that I’m crazy and there’s no such thing. Wtf? 2/3rds of Lithuanian families follow this convention
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Somaen posted:Wtf? 2/3rds of Lithuanian families follow this convention Back at the time I was also really surprised, but I wrote it off on the account of my dad’s folk wisdom sometimes being a bit more folk than wisdom.
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Mr. Apollo posted:In Polish there are masculine and feminine forms of some surnames. If a masculine surname ends in i or y, the feminine form ends in a. However, names that end in consonants don't have male and female forms. And the masculine form is usually adopted when anglicized (Yvonne Strahovski, Emily Ratajkowski), which took me a while to get used to.
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steinrokkan posted:It's a tough dilemma, on the one hand I don't like adding "ová" to foreign names that technically don't need it, on the other hand using raw English names with no declensions (e.g. "viděl jsi ten nový film s Amy Adams?")is such an insufferably ostentatious dipshit poseur move, id rather slap myself than do it. Right. I like "Amy Adams přijela do Prahy", but definitely go with "Nový film s Amy Adamsovou" for other cases.
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Xarn posted:Right. I like "Amy Adams přijela do Prahy", but definitely go with "Nový film s Amy Adamsovou" for other cases.
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Just wanted to announce how much I hate the Polish government jumping up to the occassion of wanting to criticize EU for upholding the pre-existing sanctions for out various misdeeds and playing great heroes on the TVP, as though their opinion and words holds much weight. Also trying to make the private effort to help refugees (and those Ukrainians are right and proper refugees, not like the other ones that froze in the forests) as a government action is just gross. It's true that citizens can react faster than bureacracy, but it's still gross.
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