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Femur posted:One of the worst thing to learn is that noone talk/thinks about you.
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Mar 14, 2022 21:33
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indigi posted:lol. yeah the plan was to release the virus, do a phenomenal job of containing it for two full years, somehow encourage seniors only in Hong Kong not to get vaccinated, then convince their government to loosen Covid regulations does anyone know why its only the seniors in hong kong that are antivaxx are they just reflexively against anything the chinese government tells them to do because they long for the days of rue britannia
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Mar 14, 2022 21:34
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Some Guy TT posted:does anyone know why its only the seniors in hong kong that are antivaxx are they just reflexively against anything the chinese government tells them to do because they long for the days of rue britannia some are just old-people mad at the government for old-people reasons (forcing them to get and use smartphones for qr code tracking), some have standard antivaxx opinions/fears, and somehow the messaging and distribution to seniors in HK has been even worse than it is in the US e: here’s the article I read about it https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3166840/coronavirus-hong-kong-alone-afraid-and
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Mar 14, 2022 21:44
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Nonsense posted:senicide in china, being old is a death sentence. you can find many people who survived childhood and young adulthood, but it's impossible to find formerly elderly people. what does that tell you?
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Mar 14, 2022 21:48
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HK gov had an entire year to encourage old people to take up the vaccine, downplay rumors of vaccine risks in comparison with catching covid, offer outreach to the elderly in care homes and unable to go to vaccination centers, increase spending to Hospital Authority. They did none of that. https://twitter.com/chiu_francesca/status/1502927139330756608 https://twitter.com/MasatoKJ/status/1502153927868882951 This person in particular has been shouting into the void to vaccinate the elderly for months: https://twitter.com/wanderer_jasnah/status/1447807616336334850 We have the LeaveHomeSafe app for tracking where we go by scanning QR codes, optional use for most of last year, only recently mandatory to dine in at restaurants since November. Around the same time they added the ability for you to scan in your vaccination certificate to register in the app. Alerts for when you were in close proximity was disabled when overwhelmed with current wave, making it pretty much useless for notifying if you were at risk of infection. Only during this wave was the vaccination cert mandatory for dining in. Old people have a hell of a time using it, once I saw an old guy struggle to use his smart phone to scan the QR code because he didn't know how to switch from his front camera to his back camera and ended up taking a bunch of selfies and getting frustrated and leaving.
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Mar 14, 2022 22:17
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Kill All Cops posted:
It's dorks like this who are causing the vaccine hesitancy. Really, shilling for Sinovac?
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Mar 14, 2022 22:21
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Oh yeah, and the district councilors who would've been able to convince the government to vaccinate the elderly and communicate with care homes about the need for vaccinations? Well, we imprisoned them.
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Mar 14, 2022 22:23
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GlassEye-Boy posted:It's dorks like this who are causing the vaccine hesitancy. Really, shilling for Sinovac? Old people in HK aren't using twitter and getting vaccine hesistant over it lmao
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Mar 14, 2022 22:24
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Nonsense posted:senicide this is a direct attack on the american ruling class!
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Mar 14, 2022 22:26
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Hope my mans gets married and can file joint tax returns.
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Mar 14, 2022 22:47
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Nonsense posted:senicide that's the orson scott card book where the chinese woman has magical ocd
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Mar 14, 2022 22:52
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FWIW I had Sinovac as my covid vaccine
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Mar 14, 2022 23:00
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Throatwarbler posted:lol sex tourism is fine who gives a poo poo is there anything you wanna confess to
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Mar 14, 2022 23:09
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is there a good site to see daily Chinese Covid numbers? googling has given me data that’s all over the place.
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Mar 14, 2022 23:09
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:what the gently caress are they doing over there? is it a brand new variant or something? having a landborder with hong kong, some infected were smuggled into the mainland. it is a very infectious variant, so they are preparing for a lot of hospitalization of their elderly pop
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Mar 14, 2022 23:11
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Kill All Cops posted:
SinoVac is better than no vaccine, especially for old people. Strange stance to take.
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Mar 14, 2022 23:58
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https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1503492632609230849
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Mar 15, 2022 00:21
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SorePotato posted:Has the US even built a hospital in the last 50 years no, but they are demolishing one across my street
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Mar 15, 2022 00:34
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Grapplejack posted:i just assume the paperwork in china must be annoying It's pretty funny and easy. You need to take photos at a private studio for some reason, and then they take a video of you making your vows in Chinese.
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Mar 15, 2022 00:53
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Kill All Cops posted:Oh yeah, and the district councilors who would've been able to convince the government to vaccinate the elderly and communicate with care homes about the need for vaccinations? Well, we imprisoned them. Watching the HK government basically unravel since 2019 has been funny if it weren't for the global pandemic running around that would be best managed by a strong government. It was darkly funny when they decided they were going to up the seating limits in restaurants and released a matrix that nobody seemed to understand rather than just a blanket "4/6 people at a table" order. Just felt like they were trying so hard to look like they were doing something.
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Mar 15, 2022 00:55
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Mirello posted:It's pretty funny and easy. You need to take photos at a private studio for some reason, and then they take a video of you making your vows in Chinese. i thought it was fun that they divorces at the same office. the couple waiting in the registration line in front of us were getting divorced and later at the table next to us there was a guy sobbing
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Mar 15, 2022 00:57
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I think US hospitals were very fancy, and they build new ones all the time and ditch the old one to the underclass.
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Mar 15, 2022 01:04
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Like malls, every town used to have a good one and a lovely one, but now there's just a lovely one and a torn down one.
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Mar 15, 2022 01:55
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Mayman10 posted:SinoVac is better than no vaccine, especially for old people. Strange stance to take. Sinovac is better than nothing, but if the populace already has mistrust in the gvmt, the gvmt playing politics by having their leader do photo ops promoting a lesser efficacy vaccine and having sinovac being made more widely available than pfizer doesn't really help. There are way more Community Vaccination Centers offering Sinovac as well as a lot of private clinics, compared to Pfizer which usually ends up being more fully booked. It just ends up with mixed messaging and people waiting and seeing until suddenly a fifth wave comes by and everybody panic rushes to vaccinate. It would even be more preferable for HK gov to not buy Pfizer at all so people could just have a simple choice to either vaccinate or not, rather than people staying on the fence about deciding on which vaccine to take and where to get it done. Most of the deaths have been unvaccinated. https://twitter.com/iainmarlow/status/1374161904197771267
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Mar 15, 2022 01:56
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If most of the deaths have been unvaccinated, how can one argue that the problem is sinovac's efficacy?
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Mar 15, 2022 01:59
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30.5 Days posted:Like malls, every town used to have a good one and a lovely one, but now there's just a lovely one and a torn down one. this is very true but i have to reiterate, rich people left townsville they are elsewhere and the health care there is top notch
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Mar 15, 2022 02:05
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30.5 Days posted:If most of the deaths have been unvaccinated, how can one argue that the problem is sinovac's efficacy? china... bad
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Mar 15, 2022 02:21
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how effective is sinovac against omicron? it’s a traditional dead virus vaccine based on timg he wild type and the mRNA ones have reduced effectiveness against omicron.
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Mar 15, 2022 02:24
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Kill All Cops posted:Old people in HK aren't using twitter and getting vaccine hesistant over it lmao most peopel have families they talk to who they, yknow, talk to and share ideas and concerns with so they arent entirely insulated from stupid terrible ideas floating on social media like anarchism and antivaxx https://twitter.com/GlorySamlee/status/1499985953800302593 "On the left is me, I didn't even get a single shot, negative, my mother on the [right], had two BNT shots, positive Can anyone please explain this? And you still want me to get jabbed?"
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Mar 15, 2022 02:24
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Mirello posted:It's pretty funny and easy. You need to take photos at a private studio for some reason, and then they take a video of you making your vows in Chinese. do foreigners need any kind of special id or can you just walk in there with your wallet and the photos and fill out the application on the spot
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Mar 15, 2022 02:31
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they need to have the false negative rate in large print on the rapid tests, I don’t think enough people read the fine print or realize that if you calibrate something to have a false positive rate of 0.0 the false negative rate is going to be very high.
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Mar 15, 2022 02:33
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Kill All Cops posted:Sinovac is better than nothing, but if the populace already has mistrust in the gvmt, the gvmt playing politics by having their leader do photo ops promoting a lesser efficacy vaccine and having sinovac being made more widely available than pfizer doesn't really help. There are way more Community Vaccination Centers offering Sinovac as well as a lot of private clinics, compared to Pfizer which usually ends up being more fully booked. It just ends up with mixed messaging and people waiting and seeing until suddenly a fifth wave comes by and everybody panic rushes to vaccinate. It would even be more preferable for HK gov to not buy Pfizer at all so people could just have a simple choice to either vaccinate or not, rather than people staying on the fence about deciding on which vaccine to take and where to get it done. Most of the deaths have been unvaccinated. wow can you imagine living in a dystopian hellscape country where people dont trust vaccines because government officials overstate their usefulness id sure hate to live in a dumbass country like that especially if any time someone tried to call attention to the messaging issue theyd just be smeared as scientifically illiterate to avoid having anyone in the government take any responsibility at all for a terrible public health response
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Mar 15, 2022 02:34
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huhwhat posted:most peopel have families they talk to who they, yknow, talk to and share ideas and concerns with so they arent entirely insulated from stupid terrible ideas floating on social media like anarchism and antivaxx https://hongkongfp.com/2022/03/13/what-went-wrong-with-hong-kongs-approach-to-getting-elderly-care-home-residents-vaccinated/ posted:In mid-2020, before Covid vaccines became available, the government prohibited any outside visits to elderly homes during the third wave of infections. Said policy was relaxed in May 2021, allowing both vaccinated and unvaccinated family members to visit if they could show a negative test result. All this sounded good in theory. However, in practice, there were a lot of issues. and idk what that tweet is trying to prove since vaccinations don't prevent covid, it just prevents the worst effects
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Mar 15, 2022 02:35
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Some Guy TT posted:do foreigners need any kind of special id or can you just walk in there with your wallet and the photos and fill out the application on the spot foreigners just need their normal passport, plus an official document issued by their own government saying they are not currently married. also you need an appointment, i dont think you can just walk in
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Mar 15, 2022 02:38
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30.5 Days posted:If most of the deaths have been unvaccinated, how can one argue that the problem is sinovac's efficacy? i never said the problem was sinovac's efficacy alone, it's a whole myriad of issues leading to why the elderly aren't getting vaxxed. But for families looking to decide on whether to get their elderly relative vaxxed, the gvmt promoting the poo poo out a lesser efficacy vaccine doesn't help with placing people's trust in gvmt + creates mixed messaging. hobbesmaster posted:how effective is sinovac against omicron? it’s a traditional dead virus vaccine based on timg he wild type and the mRNA ones have reduced effectiveness against omicron. https://twitter.com/world_epidemic/status/1473938207804837889
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Mar 15, 2022 02:54
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Kill All Cops posted:and idk what that tweet is trying to prove since vaccinations don't prevent covid, it just prevents the worst effects no it does reduce the chances of catching covid, and yes when u do catch it ur symptoms r typically ~milder~ with this level knowledge among the supposedly educated young cohort im not surprised hk had gone down the drain as for the hongkongfp article, good job on selective quoting https://hongkongfp.com/2022/03/13/what-went-wrong-with-hong-kongs-approach-to-getting-elderly-care-home-residents-vaccinated/ hmm why didn't you quote this part? hmmmmmmmmmmmm? where did the staff's loving vaccine hesitancy come from? ex nihilo? quote:During visits, staff talked about not getting a jab because they were worried about the side effects, but none had gone to a hospital or clinic for a check-up to ask about them. Given these staff were the closest regular contacts of many elderly home residents, what they said about vaccines mattered quite a lot. and about those restricted visits, just cuz u text more than u talk doesnt mean that old people cant work a phone, and phones were definitely available tehre quote:My father finally agreed to get a jab and got his first dose this month after the government announced a new policy providing phone-in medical services for health assessment to residents. haha u made me read a hongkongfp article im so owned
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Mar 15, 2022 02:59
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ooh stock market volatility https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adN9L0ktFOE&t=420s skip to 7:00 china govt uses the Visible Hand to interfere with the market all the time, it can do what free market economies cant, which is doing countercyclical adjustments, going long when private investors are going short. this applies even to private industries in china since the chinese state owns a majority stake in the state banks an example would be the photovoltaic industry, which are mostly private firms exporting to europe, being subjected to 1-year export ban in europe since their dominance in europe led to european pv companies losing market share. china intervened and ordered the banks to not collect debt from china's pv firms, in other words, taking on bad debt. this prevents the pv firms from going out of business with the resultant loss of equipment and technical expertise. when after 1 year chinese pv companies didnt collapse, the eu had to extend their ban by 7 months. free market competition is all an illusion, china knows its playing a rigged game, it will take steps to protect the long term interests of the common people and the chinese state, however they dont give a poo poo about speculators even if they have chinese citizenship a more updated example: psst, what do u think the forced labor accusations in xinjiang is all about???
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Mar 15, 2022 03:11
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Kill All Cops posted:i never said the problem was sinovac's efficacy alone, it's a whole myriad of issues leading to why the elderly aren't getting vaxxed. But for families looking to decide on whether to get their elderly relative vaxxed, the gvmt promoting the poo poo out a lesser efficacy vaccine doesn't help with placing people's trust in gvmt + creates mixed messaging. yikes. how fast can those vaccines be spun for new variants?
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Mar 15, 2022 03:13
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hobbesmaster posted:yikes. how fast can those vaccines be spun for new variants? https://twitter.com/tripperhead/status/1491769614501842947
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Mar 15, 2022 03:24
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huhwhat posted:ooh stock market volatility Impressive example, but it's been known. Ha-Joon Chang's whole thing is that the East Asian tiger economies got to where they are not through free markets but protectionism and state interventionism, and it worked. And rich western countries like the U.S. itself acted similarly when they were industrializing, only now to use the neoliberal cudgel to beat developing nations into submission. lmao he goes on to use footage from "Too Big to Fail", the Aaron Sorkin movie about the downfall of Lehman Brothers. RIP William Hurt I don't have time to watch the whole thing, does he have any examples for his point #1 about public ownership of all land in China, does have any examples of how that works out okay his whole bit about neo-stateism at 14:06 is pretty interesting
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Mar 15, 2022 04:01
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