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bees everywhere posted:Not sure but here's something: In a sane world, I'd imagine they would try to land closer to Kherson so they can pressure the Mykolaiv defenders from the other side of the Bug, but this is a world where high ranking people think unsupported air assaults deep behind enemy lines are a good idea.
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Arrath posted:Forget shooting an rpg at a range in Cambodia, I get to pull the trigger on an mlrs??? Ngl ukraine should have taken the full blown war tourist approach to foreign volunteers. Probably could have even charged for the ATGM experience and broke even
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Whoa a Fox News cameraman was killedquote:A Fox News cameraman was killed on Monday in Ukraine when his vehicle came under fire outside of Kyiv, the network said. The cameraman, Pierre Zakrzewski, was a veteran war reporter who had been reporting in Ukraine since February. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/business/media/ukraine-fox-news-cameraman-killed.html
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CainFortea posted:I can not imagine a redneck with an MBT letting the gun be disabled under any circumstances. Remember when that old German got in trouble a couple years back when he took his completely intact panzer to the store because there was too much snow for his car? Gonna be hard to find them all to deactivate them at this point
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Arrath posted:Forget shooting an rpg at a range in Cambodia, I get to pull the trigger on an mlrs??? Completely off-topic and I know you're joking but I would recommend against shooting RPGs for fun in Cambodia or any other country for that matter. If they're poorly maintained they could misfire and it actually happened to someone I knew, he was a good 20 feet away from the people firing it and he still got impaled by something, barely survived and now has a massive vertical scar running from his collarbone to his belly button.
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bees everywhere posted:Completely off-topic and I know you're joking but I would recommend against shooting RPGs for fun in Cambodia or any other country for that matter. If they're poorly maintained they could misfire and it actually happened to someone I knew, he was a good 20 feet away from the people firing it and he still got impaled by something, barely survived and now has a massive vertical scar running from his collarbone to his belly button. Hey but the story he got from it though
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ASAPI posted:Looks like Russia thinks they have figured out how this amphibious assault works. My view is that it's more of a naval invasion-in-being, as the threat alone of naval invasion ties down Ukrainian forces badly needed elsewhere. Russian forces aren't remotely capable of pushing to Odessa over land to support the invasion, the airforce has proven themselves unable to properly perform CAS and russian naval artillery is so far untested and as everyone probably knows, contested naval invasions in general are one of the most difficult military endeavours one can undertake. An attempt would be astonishingly unwise and spell certain death and destruction, and not for the Ukrainians. So, I'm sure it's just a feint and surely this time the Russians won't prove themselves incompetent, bumbling fools. On the other hand, *Gestures incredulously at every other decision the Russians have made so far*
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psydude posted:Hey but the story he got from it though  Definitely, and I knew another guy who was saved by the camera in his shirt pocket (the left breast pocket) when a D-30 howitzer misfired and the shell exploded as it left the barrel. Moral of the story: Always wear full PPE around exploding things, even when you're further away from them.
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Platystemon posted:Is there precedent for theft by conversion between two states? Didn't someone declare war once while a bunch of their ships were in the enemy's port?
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:Something that randomly just occured to me: what's true for the Russian airlines operating western aircraft is also true for the multitude if militaries that operate Soviet and Russian built aircraft (and presumably tanks, weapons, and ships, to a lesser degree). Outside of Russia the only facility factory authorized to overhaul MiG and Sukhoi aircraft is in Zaporzhizhia. (Obviously the factory authorized part may have changed since 2014) Yeah, this is always a concern with operating Russian designed equipment. Even India, which has used MiGs and Sukhois for decades, runs into problems here. The Russians force you to buy into the whole "ecosystem". Outside contractors, usually in the form of national export bureaus, can provide some parts and ammunition (more on this later). Engines, radars, major systems are another story. Unless their arms are twisted behind their backs the Russians are loathe to license out production of full weapons systems. The problems inherent in this arrangement are compounded by a need for the Russians to fullfill local contacts first. We can take Ukraine as an example of an outside contractor. The Kharkiv Tank Plant is among the largest, most experienced in the world. If you, as a country, enjoyed the T-64 and T-80, they will gladly new build or rebuild the things for you. Modern optics, powerpacks, comms equipment, etc. They'l keep on supporting the things, as they use them and depend on exports to keep the lines open and updated. This is a great deal if your country already produces ammo for the guns, parts for the motors, etc. or if it can integrate locally-built sub-systems. Poland is a big player in T-72-alikes, Romania has tried with the LancER MiGs, even Israel gets in the game sometimes. I strongly suspect that some of the ire Russia has for Ukraine is due to capturing military production contracts the Russians wanted, or could never get because Ukraine is willing, able, and outside the RF sphere. The last war, and this one, have severely hampered Ukraine's ability to sell military equipment world-wide. Cancelled or partially completed contracts abound. A curious amount of explosions have happened at ammo plants on both sides.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Whoa a Fox News cameraman was killed He'll find no love from his home channel I'm sure of that Stravag posted:Remember when that old German got in trouble a couple years back when he took his completely intact panzer to the store because there was too much snow for his car? Gonna be hard to find them all to deactivate them at this point Got in trouble because the decal covering the swastika fell off
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meatbag posted:Does Russia have a Marine Corps who is supposed to be trained in amphibious invasions? they have naval infantry on paper, who knows if they have any landing vehicles that work though.
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CainFortea posted:I can not imagine a redneck with an MBT letting the gun be disabled under any circumstances. Look, Ukraine Bubba needs that tank to protect his second amendment rights. Just in case the Russians invade again!
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bees everywhere posted:Completely off-topic and I know you're joking but I would recommend against shooting RPGs for fun in Cambodia or any other country for that matter. If they're poorly maintained they could misfire and it actually happened to someone I knew, he was a good 20 feet away from the people firing it and he still got impaled by something, barely survived and now has a massive vertical scar running from his collarbone to his belly button. Picturing your friend walking into the local VFW and sitting himself down at a table of vets all 30-40 years older than him, showing them his scar, and saying “I hear ya. Fuckin’ VA wouldn’t recognize this when I got wounded by an RPG in Cambodia.”
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rednecks wouldn't buy a tank, it would be a lawyer from fort worth that likes to play dress up as a cowboy
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Milo and POTUS posted:Didn't someone declare war once while a bunch of their ships were in the enemy's port? Mussolini entered WW2 without issuing a warning to his merchant marine, yeah.
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meatbag posted:Does Russia have a Marine Corps who is supposed to be trained in amphibious invasions? Naval Infantry, yes. Heavily blooded in Crimea during WW2, incidentally. They got hosed up pretty well there. Black uniforms, white belts. Cold War, they would have been tip-of-the-spear during ops in Scandinavia and the Nordic coastline. Maybe pushing through the Baltics following the outbreak of war. Now they are more a coastal QRF than a full-blown "storm the beaches" branch. The Army has no problem supplying troops to pack into landing craft and their few gigantic hovercraft for something more substantial. madeintaipei fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 15, 2022 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:Didn't someone declare war once while a bunch of their ships were in the enemy's port? Japan in WW2, yes. A bunch of their cargo was being carried in neutral flagged ships as well and was promptly seized.
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Loezi posted:Historically in Finland this has been something like 20 % for joining Nato, 30 % uncertain/neutral and 50 % against. In January this was 30-27-43 (pro-uncertain-against), and last week it was 53-19-28. The latest polls also found that 63 % were for joining in a scenario where the president/PM were pro-joining with 23 % against. Here are the Finnish NATO polls for the past two decades. "Yes / Not sure / No".
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PookBear posted:rednecks wouldn't buy a tank, it would be a lawyer from fort worth that likes to play dress up as a cowboy rednecks would buy a bmp and take it mudding E; and use it to hunt coyotes Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 15, 2022 |
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PookBear posted:rednecks wouldn't buy a tank, it would be a lawyer from fort worth that likes to play dress up as a cowboy Why would a ukrainian redneck need to buy a tank? They're just laying around to be yoinked.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Didn't someone declare war once while a bunch of their ships were in the enemy's port? This is pretty common throughout history to be honest - happened all the time in the Age of Sail. Without radio or telegraphs or the like it's not possible to tell ALL your merchant ships to get out of hostile ports before the declaration of war arrives because if you're a country of any reasonable size you're gonna have merchants everywhere. Even after long-range communication became a thing, if someone suddenly starts pulling out all their merchant ships out of your country that's kind of a giant warning sign that something's going on which you may or may not want. MILITARY ships being interned would be rarer though. It might have happened but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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FrozenVent posted:Lockheed’s got a boner to rival Boeing’s. And all the Russian commercial aircraft makers building planes no one wants.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:I’ll take “Aww that’s adorable” for $500, Alex. There's an even funnier follow-up: https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1503786901517611023?t=8gUyhWdB7BhDq2AcjH1Y9Q&s=19 They sanctioned the wrong Joe Biden
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Herstory Begins Now posted:rednecks would buy a bmp and take it mudding If you live in an isolated community within Russia, there is a mechanism to provide a number of military vehicles for transport and supply. Mostly unarmored tracked vehicles, like the MT-LB or any one of the SPG ammo carriers. There's even a BTR variant built to RF civilian spec, with no armor and holes cut all over for windows. Point being Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov, firewood collector from BFE, Siberia is better equipped than the Army to move through deep mud. gently caress, the Russians and Belarusians made/make plenty of huge articulated tractors that would be very useful to their armed forces right now.
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Alan Smithee posted:Ngl ukraine should have taken the full blown war tourist approach to foreign volunteers. Probably could have even charged for the ATGM experience and broke even I was joking with my dad saying Ukrainian farmers, even if they have to demilitarize them, could make a bucket of cash letting Americans drive these things and futz around in them. Not sure what the insurance rates would be like though.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:I was joking with my dad saying Ukrainian farmers, even if they have to demilitarize them, could make a bucket of cash letting Americans drive these things and futz around in them. Not sure what the insurance rates would be like though. Hopefully the friendly neighborhood cops don't end up with them.
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The music choice  https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1503793494955020293?t=xMXCUmXaKINTRj1nBMu-TQ&s=19
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KitConstantine posted:The music choice Was that an "OK, time to get the gently caress out of here" motion or a "do it again" motion?
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ZombieApostate posted:Was that an "OK, time to get the gently caress out of here" motion or a "do it again" motion? Reload or wrap it up, maybe to move to a new firing point.
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Farking Bastage posted:Hopefully the friendly neighborhood cops don't end up with them. Honestly if Ukraine makes it out of this; I expect them to be setting up a very robust civilian training program something similar to Switzerland at its height of doing that. Also add the 593back for the clip. Its loving horrific though so SUPER  for what it’s worth the source is a German new station and they narrate what’s going on. I don’t speak German though so I can’t really comment on that. This is from the GBS Thread.quote:Who wants war crimes against civilians!
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KitConstantine posted:The music choice Guy sitting on top had a nice ride.
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ZombieApostate posted:Was that an "OK, time to get the gently caress out of here" motion or a "do it again" motion? Scoot for your lives boys
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Ahh yes, having nuclear reactor crews be exhausted sounds like a great idea!
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Cimber posted:Ahh yes, having nuclear reactor crews be exhausted sounds like a great idea! And being held at gunpoint!
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Stravag posted:Remember when that old German got in trouble a couple years back when he took his completely intact panzer to the store because there was too much snow for his car? Gonna be hard to find them all to deactivate them at this point Is this the story you're referring to? https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-senior-wwii-nazi-tank-in-basement-fined-293000-2021-8
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Cimber posted:Ahh yes, having nuclear reactor crews be exhausted sounds like a great idea! To be fair: There are no active reactors there, but regardless the Russians have taken the whole "Take people hostage/slavery" thing to heart. 
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CommieGIR posted:To be fair: There are no active reactors there, but regardless the Russians have taken the whole "Take people hostage/slavery" thing to heart. Uhhh, i am not sure that's true. I thought they kept the other reactors online. Have they shut them all down? e: Yeah, they did in 2012.
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