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Humphreys posted:I have legit commercially released VCDs, and from memory, they had some rudimentary menu. I have 3 Amigos, Born of Fourth of July and a sealed collectors boxset of Harry Potter movies. None are bootlegs from the usual sources. The VCD 2.0 standard did actually include some rudimentary "interactivity" features called Playback Control. It basically let you show either still pictures or video menus. You typed a number to make selections. It was functionally similar to what DVD was capable of from what I can see.
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Zenostein posted:How's that work, were you expected to just pull one of the audio plugs to get your desired audio track?
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There was a bunch of different VCD formats that we’re about, I remember there being SVCD and KVCD. KVCD was notable as it made it possible to fit an entire movie onto one disc I’m pretty sure I at one point went through the effort of creating a Lord of the Rings extended cut KVCD as you can imagine it didn’t look the prettiest but was still watchable on a CRT. I don’t know if it was ever used for retail releases, I may even have some old images stashed away on a hard drive somewhere.
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Flipperwaldt posted:There's a button on the remote for my tv to switch between dual sound A, B or stereo for this exact scenario. Or for when a tv channel broadcasted like this. I've never had a reason to use it, mind. But some recognition for the fact that Sony agreed this was a situation you might reasonably end up in, I guess.
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One Man Crowd posted:Not until this king gets his recognition. C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER 
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Flipperwaldt posted:There's a button on the remote for my tv to switch between dual sound A, B or stereo for this exact scenario. Or for when a tv channel broadcasted like this. I've never had a reason to use it, mind. But some recognition for the fact that Sony agreed this was a situation you might reasonably end up in, I guess. Hirayuki posted:I know Disney VCR tapes in '90s Japan were like this, too, with the original English track on A and the Japanese dub on B. (I expect the DVDs/BDs still are.) You had to choose one channel, though, or hear the cacophony of both languages at once. Back in the States, I have never once in nearly 45 years had a TV with the capability to select an audio track--unless you count the SAP function, which seems to tap into a separate stereo track if it's being broadcast by the provider. And I think that might only be on my DVR remote, come to think of it. Yeah, I thought (or assumed, since I doubt I ever really looked into it) SAP was using a separately broadcast audio stream, not that the networks/pbs were using stereo fuckery. Although to be honest, both are equally likely, and I'm too lazy to actually look into it. However, I do vaguely recall the SAP button not doing anything if there wasn't another audio option, and that implies that it isn't an L/R channel switcher. Unplugging/only plugging in one audio jack makes enough sense — assuming there weren't VCD players that only output mono, for some idiot reason.
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There was apparently a filing cabinet full of VCDs at my work that someone was throwing out a few years ago. I took photos of some.  and I guess   I did not try to watch these.
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GoutPatrol posted:There was apparently a filing cabinet full of VCDs at my work that someone was throwing out a few years ago. 
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Zenostein posted:Yeah, I thought (or assumed, since I doubt I ever really looked into it) SAP was using a separately broadcast audio stream, not that the networks/pbs were using stereo fuckery. Although to be honest, both are equally likely, and I'm too lazy to actually look into it. However, I do vaguely recall the SAP button not doing anything if there wasn't another audio option, and that implies that it isn't an L/R channel switcher. Unplugging/only plugging in one audio jack makes enough sense — assuming there weren't VCD players that only output mono, for some idiot reason. SAP is a second audio stream. But most cable systems don't seem to support it. But OTA broadcasts do. Closed captions for NTSC had some oddities like stuffing it into line 21. And PAL for VHS did the same with line 25 I believe. For over the air broadcasts it used a different system.
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ishikabibble posted:The whole draw of VCD was that it was cheaper than DVD, so I can't imagine there were that many exciting players that came out for the format Trading music bootlegs, for a brief moment around 2000-2002 VCDs were a great way to trade our lovely camcorder-recorded concerts or non-released promo films without adding even more generational loss. Pop onto DC++, grab them VCDs. By 2003 though, DVD burners were so cheap that we all abandoned them. For actual movies I skipped them, minus when a copy of Attack of the Clones was posted to usenet a week before the release date
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Gaz2k21 posted:There was a bunch of different VCD formats that we’re about, I remember there being SVCD and KVCD. I don't know anything about KVCD but SVCD was mpeg2 and had much better video quality than normal VCD. But it only officially supported 35 minutes of video per disc. Though many players would still play disc that were not to spec and you could usually get a movie on 2 disc.
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I seem to remember that in the early 2000's if you wanted to watch formats like vcd you had to buy the cheap, lovely dvd players. Anything with a recognizable name brand would only play actual dvd formats while the $25 off brand units would play just about anything. I always thought that was kind of weird.
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I love this thread, loving the VCD chat.  Didn't Phillips have a proprietary VCD format for their CDi? Was it different in any way or was it just them doing their own thing? I know the CDi played regular VCDs as well.
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Gaz2k21 posted:There was a bunch of different VCD formats that we’re about, I remember there being SVCD and KVCD. I legit did this with everything I ripped for a time where I had a DVD player that could play VCDs, but couldn't afford a DVD Burner or blank media. Fellowship of the Rings was a hard thing to watch, and on my little NEC Pentium 4 laptop - took 8 hours to encode.
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Inspector 34 posted:I seem to remember that in the early 2000's if you wanted to watch formats like vcd you had to buy the cheap, lovely dvd players. Anything with a recognizable name brand would only play actual dvd formats while the $25 off brand units would play just about anything. I always thought that was kind of weird. Yeah, this was drat near universally true. A Sony or Panasonic player would play DVDs and MAYBE a VCD that was 100% in spec, but an Apex brand player would play practically anything that was in some form of MPEG 1 or 2.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Yeah, this was drat near universally true. A Sony or Panasonic player would play DVDs and MAYBE a VCD that was 100% in spec, but an Apex brand player would play practically anything that was in some form of MPEG 1 or 2. Some could even play “DivX” too iirc
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Yeah I had a little region free DVD player years ago and that sucker played anything you could fit in the slot. DVDs. VCDs. DivX, music CDs, even data CDs if they had pictures on them.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Yeah, this was drat near universally true. A Sony or Panasonic player would play DVDs and MAYBE a VCD that was 100% in spec, but an Apex brand player would play practically anything that was in some form of MPEG 1 or 2. I had an Apex 3-disk player with a hacked firmware that would break region locking. and would play just about any digital format that existed in 2000.
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Kwyndig posted:Yeah I had a little region free DVD player years ago and that sucker played anything you could fit in the slot. DVDs. VCDs. DivX, music CDs, even data CDs if they had pictures on them. Just about every off-brand player could do this. The more expensive name brands never did, even though they had the hardware for it. I still remember buying my first DVD player. It was during the early days of DVD still, but it was the cheapest and first of its kind that could do everything for way less than the big brands. Played every format out there, had component output, and ignored DVD regions from the factory. All for $100! (players from name brands were well more than that still) Later someone dumped the firmware and modified it to ignore Prohibited User Operations and also found out it had a hidden ability to output progressive scan, so a menu option was added to enable this.
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My first DVD player was my DVD drive on an AMD K6-2. Lord help you if you even so much as moved the mouse once it started playing
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:My first DVD player was my DVD drive on an AMD K6-2. Lord help you if you even so much as moved the mouse once it started playing Same. Mine worked just about OK when it was brand new, but then the first time I had to reinstall Windows 98 I never found the right combination of settings to make it play smoothly again.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:My first DVD player was my DVD drive on an AMD K6-2. Lord help you if you even so much as moved the mouse once it started playing i'm going to wait until you're burning a cd and then i'm going to cough loudly in the same room and laugh as you waste a CD-R
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the "1 episode never seen on TV" is Bart the General
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Arivia posted:i'm going to wait until you're burning a cd and then i'm going to cough loudly in the same room and laugh as you waste a CD-R Burning a CD at 2x instead of 1x was some heart in mouth stuff
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stevewm posted:Just about every off-brand player could do this. The more expensive name brands never did, even though they had the hardware for it. I have fond memories of my first DVD player it was the legendary Samsung 709, I paid £230 for it plus an additional £20 to make it region free and remove macro vision(which at the time ruled as I worked at a place that could import US discs at cost so I’d record new movies onto VHS for friends) It was built like a brick shithouse and lasted well over 10 years I loved that thing If I still had it I’d Chuck the PiZero2 in there that I’m using as a “DVD Emulator” and give it pride of place on my shelf. I later got some off brand player that did DIVX but I kept my 709 as it was just sturdy as gently caress.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Trading music bootlegs, for a brief moment around 2000-2002 VCDs were a great way to trade our lovely camcorder-recorded concerts or non-released promo films without adding even more generational loss. Pop onto DC++, grab them VCDs. By 2003 though, DVD burners were so cheap that we all abandoned them. Grabbing VCDs was my introduction to back in high school. The quality was atrocious, but I wasn't going to the theater to watch american pie drat it.
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I have great memories of watching American Pie in theaters in high school with all my classmates.
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IIRC, i recall downloading Evangelion episodes in RealMedia format (from Winamp video streams of all places) and converting and burning them to VCD so I could watch it on TV. It still wouldn't have been worth it even if Evangelion had been worth the watch.
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I had a VHS player connected to an Hauppauge TV Tuner card and converted my tapes with.... VirtualDub, maybe? I guess such TV Tuners are now done through USB devices, if they're even still a thing. I wouldn't know why I'd want to connect some coax tv cable to my PC in tyool 2022.
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Wipfmetz posted:wouldn't know why I'd want to connect some coax tv cable to my PC in tyool 2022. Because of that retro-feeling
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GreenNight posted:I have great memories of watching American Pie in theaters in high school with all my classmates.  It was also the first DVD I bought because it was "unrated" and only marginally more expensive than renting it from Blockbuster.
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Wipfmetz posted:I had a VHS player connected to an Hauppauge TV Tuner card and converted my tapes with.... VirtualDub, maybe? It's not a good reason, but I still have a cablecard capture card in my nas.
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So all this DVD talk got me thinking of something I haven't thought of in the better part of two decades. Back when I was a young nerd, just getting into anime and manga and all that japanese culture bullshit, I had an interest in these "dating sim" things people kept making jokes about, and I ran into a booth selling some... On DVD. Video DVD, as in they'd play on any standard DVD player. I kinda feel bad for the company that thought they were gonna make mad dosh with Hourglass of Summer, or Phantom of the Inferno or whatever dumb poo poo they picked up. Of course, exceptionally pointless, and why I ended up ditching them before too long, was that they were porn games with all the sex scenes removed, and I was like 22 at the time.
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GreenNight posted:I have great memories of watching American Pie in theaters in high school with all my classmates. I watched The Crying Game with my mom.
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Groke posted:I watched The Crying Game with my mom. We celebrated our 20th anniversary last May.
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Finally: https://hackaday.com/2022/03/16/eight-rs232-ports-one-ethernet-port/
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Groke posted:I watched The Crying Game with my mom.
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FilthyImp posted:I took my girlfriend to watch BATTLEFIELD EARTH So how did you survive the aftermath?
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My then-girlfriend now-wife and I went to a Three Amigos quote/sing-along at the Alamo Drafthouse for our fourth date. I like to think it was my singing of My Little Buttercup that made her go "Yes, this guy's the one."
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FilthyImp posted:I took my girlfriend to watch BATTLEFIELD EARTH Did you ask her by yelling DO YOU WANT LUNCH??? AND THEN MAUBE A MOVIE?
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