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Small White Dragon posted:This is certainly a great time to be a weapons manufacturer.  Best you can hope for;"I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul" EDIT: woof, page snipe. A few more sentiments; "And I hope that you die And your death will come soon"
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SourKraut posted:Coming back from the dead would be another military advantage Just as long as they don't stuff Him into one of those mobile crematoriums before three days elapse. That would be... awkward.
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I guess it never occurred to me to make "a claymore mine, but you launch it out of a mortar and then it flies a few miles away and blows something up", but that's why I'm in medical research and not defense research I guess. Doubt it would do much to a tank or BMP, but uh, that does not seem to be a major issue so far for Ukraine.  gay picnic defence posted:This conflict is going to replace a bunch of weapons expos. Who needs a fancy stall and a slick display when you can just mail a bunch of stuff to Ukraine and ask them to film it blowing poo poo up.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Ukraine should steal the kuznetsov. 
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Zero_Grade posted:I guess it never occurred to me to make "a claymore mine, but you launch it out of a mortar and then it flies a few miles away and blows something up", but that's why I'm in medical research and not defense research I guess. Doubt it would do much to a tank or BMP, but uh, that does not seem to be a major issue so far for Ukraine. You’d be able to fire off a couple to soften up any mobile AA and let the TB2s take out the heavy stuff. I think their greatest value would be for harassing convoys because a single dude can carry a couple of them and pop off a few trucks without putting themselves in any real danger or retaliation.
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Mar 16, 2022 06:19
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I know this is said a lot, but it really is depressing how much money, resources, and intelligence goes into creating military weapons. Like I know the reasons why, but for gently caress sake humanity.
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Mar 16, 2022 06:24
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The thought of advancing into an area swarming with flying with claymores would get me to nope the gently caress out immediately.
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In regards to Ukrainian offensive operations, if they intend to do anything with armor this will probably be the last week for awhile in most places in and around Kiev. I am not sure how the ground is in the South, but in the North/East you get the tank eating mud and next week it looks like Spring is arriving with temps staying above 0 C at night and warm and sunny during the day. I dare say even the Ukrainian farmers will be hesitant to collect Russian armor in these conditions.
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Mar 16, 2022 06:27
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dr_rat posted:I know this is said a lot, but it really is depressing how much money, resources, and intelligence goes into creating military weapons. When people like Putin exist and are prone to invading neighbouring countries it’s not really surprising.
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gay picnic defence posted:When people like Putin exist and are prone to invading neighbouring countries it’s not really surprising. yeah not surprising, just depressing.
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Mar 16, 2022 06:33
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dr_rat posted:I know this is said a lot, but it really is depressing how much money, resources, and intelligence goes into creating military weapons. Especially since a substantial chunk of this is pure grift. Pretty sure Lockheed and Boeing are charging about 10x more than it actually costs them to make anything simply because of the relative monopoly they have on the US military and influence on their politics. And they make stuff that kinda works, as we're seeing with Russia some companies do the same grift and don't deliver at all. Unfortunately Cold War 2 means this will only be getting worse, governments left, right and center are all going to be boosting defense spending. Thanks Putin!
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Mar 16, 2022 06:35
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We're gonna need more tractors.
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Young Freud posted:Edit: the hits just keep comin'.... his last words: Боже моооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооооййййййййййййййййййййййййй
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Oh Robert is swinging for the fences recently. Apparently, someone in Congress is pushing to bring back letters of marque in seizing the maritime property of "certain Russian individuals"... https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1503967184237735937?s=20&t=1uBCM9l-nivYLJuLmxDkuA
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Mar 16, 2022 06:44
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Trump posted:The thought of advancing into an area swarming with flying with claymores would get me to nope the gently caress out immediately. I'm just waiting for some army to go all in on cheap disposable drones. Take a $2000 consumer level drone, add a raspberry pi and GPS unit, duct tape on a grenade, and for the costs of a single armored vehicle you could send swarms of literally thousands of the things to constantly harass enemy troops.
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https://twitter.com/LucasADWebber/status/1503867607736274953 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN9YlThJ7I8
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Senor Tron posted:I'm just waiting for some army to go all in on cheap disposable drones. Take a $2000 consumer level drone, add a raspberry pi and GPS unit, duct tape on a grenade, and for the costs of a single armored vehicle you could send swarms of literally thousands of the things to constantly harass enemy troops. The only thing stopping this right now is targeting. How do you get your flying grenade to be able to find and kill people, how do you make sure it only kills enemy soldiers. As-is almost all drones require a guy doing the thinking, so it's hard to put out thousands of them.
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Senor Tron posted:I'm just waiting for some army to go all in on cheap disposable drones. Take a $2000 consumer level drone, add a raspberry pi and GPS unit, duct tape on a grenade, and for the costs of a single armored vehicle you could send swarms of literally thousands of the things to constantly harass enemy troops. This very much is already a thing. Hell it was a thing 5 years ago, albeit not in swarms
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:https://twitter.com/LucasADWebber/status/1503867607736274953 good, I hope he died in some comically shameful way and doesn't become a martyr
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Senor Tron posted:I'm just waiting for some army to go all in on cheap disposable drones. Take a $2000 consumer level drone, add a raspberry pi and GPS unit, duct tape on a grenade, and for the costs of a single armored vehicle you could send swarms of literally thousands of the things to constantly harass enemy troops. The "mujahedeen special" as seen by ISIS, Kurdish Peshmerga, and other rebel groups in Syria. They even have 3D-printed adapters for Russian 30mm high-velocity grenades, because those are more plentiful than the automatic grenade launchers that use them.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:https://twitter.com/LucasADWebber/status/1503867607736274953 Maybe now they’ve finally done a denazification they can gently caress off back to Russia.
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raverrn posted:The only thing stopping this right now is targeting. How do you get your flying grenade to be able to find and kill people, how do you make sure it only kills enemy soldiers. As-is almost all drones require a guy doing the thinking, so it's hard to put out thousands of them. Don’t worry, they’re already working on that one  https://youtu.be/DjUdVxJH6yI Back Hack fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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I know this is a stupid question because it's the question and has probably already been talked about at length in this thread but it's still all I can think about What happens after this? Because win or lose, the damage has been done. Putin's reputation as a shrewd and calculating strong man is in shambles. A major world power's army has spent the last three weeks in an embarrassing loving clown show invasion that has resorted to just throwing their hands up and war criming as they can to accomplish their goal. The Russian economy is likely going to be devastated for gently caress knows how long, And even if - and it's wild that this is even an "if" at this point - Russia takes Kyiv, pops Zelenskyy, does the "Mission Accomplished" song and dance there's still almost certainly going to be enough Ukrainian rebels to make life for an occupying force or puppet government a living Hell for decades to come. Obviously Russia keeps the security that a nuclear deterrent gives you but uranium isn't going to feed a starving populace when most of the world treats your country like it's a leper colony. What is being accomplished? What's the endgame? Why is this still loving going on?
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:Hey it's a topic I know about - from the US side of things. There are many factual errors in this post. For starters: The RRF are part of MARAD’s NDRF. They are not MSC vessels.
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I check this thread because I think it's a good source of information, but then I read through it and find an entire page of goons arguing that you won't get wet from being in a boat... I'm a bit worried about this talk of a counter-offensive. The Russians are obviously struggling but a failed counter attack by over confident Ukrainian forces send exactly the sort of thing that could swing the war back in Russia's favour. It might speak to Ukraine's desperation as much as anything else.
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Russia keeps using cruise missiles to attack Kyiv and it seems like all they hit are residential high rises, wtf man
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I check this thread because I think it's a good source of information, but then I read through it and find an entire page of goons arguing that you won't get wet from being in a boat... A failed counter offensive isnt going to swing the war. The overlying factors still favor Ukraine vastly. Also between Ukraine being over confident or desperate pick one.
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Trump posted:Russia keeps using cruise missiles to attack Kyiv and it seems like all they hit are FTFY
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Dick Trauma posted:On the subject of stuck vehicles it makes me wonder whether the Russians don't have recovery teams, or just not enough of them. Vehicle recovery teams would normally be part of any large movement to avoid exactly what we keep seeing. I think the recovery vehicles are stuck and/or out of fuel.
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Recovery teams probably aren't going to venture to hot frontlines while the UA army is still active.
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Blockhouse posted:I know this is a stupid question because it's the question and has probably already been talked about at length in this thread but it's still all I can think about No one knows. I mean the war is still going on, it's too early to really wonder what will happen after because there's no way to tell when this drat thing will end. It's too early to tell who will even win it even though Russias performance has been a lot worse than most people expected.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Sure, as long as it's stuff that the U.S. government wouldn't mind possibly falling into Russian hands at some point. Trump was President for 4 years, I'm sure Russia has all the schematics by now.
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Skex posted:Trump was President for 4 years, I'm sure Russia has all the schematics by now. Watch that treasonous talk! Trump was a real asset to this country. Well, someone's country, anyway
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Blockhouse posted:I know this is a stupid question because it's the question and has probably already been talked about at length in this thread but it's still all I can think about
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I really wonder how all of this would have worked out, if Trump was in charge. He would have probably demanded countersanctions against all countries who prolong the sufferings of war by sanctioning the clear designated winner Russia.
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Blockhouse posted:I know this is a stupid question because it's the question and has probably already been talked about at length in this thread but it's still all I can think about It's probably got talked about the most before we realized Ukraine were actually putting up a good defense and wouldn't get steam rolled in 2 days. The most important thing IMO is that US and Europe maintain their resolve (Biden said the effects of sanctions would take months to set in) and keep Putin's Russia ostracized from the global community. The tricky bit will be if he conquers Ukraine, then comes to the negotiating table in "good faith" with his people suffering under sanctions. We want regime change, we can't invade militarily, we don't want to give him any concessions. What then?
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Senor Tron posted:I'm just waiting for some army to go all in on cheap disposable drones. Take a $2000 consumer level drone, add a raspberry pi and GPS unit, duct tape on a grenade, and for the costs of a single armored vehicle you could send swarms of literally thousands of the things to constantly harass enemy troops.
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headspace posted:The more right wing the better. Maybe they will try to lift the siege of Kiev with winged hussars. Please no, it's already rapidly approaching Hungary and doesn't appear to be stopping. The war appears to shut up at least some of the rabid anti-EU elements, but who knows if it will last (probably not for long, since there're already voices about EU needing to drop fines on Poland for anti-democracy stuff in the name of unity).
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AJA posted:The truth of this world is that is never not a good time to be a weapons manufacturer Sadly, that may be true, I guess I meant this will be a great (better?) time to be one.  (German Arms manufacturer)
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Blockhouse posted:I know this is a stupid question because it's the question and has probably already been talked about at length in this thread but it's still all I can think about My thoughts are based on the following broad assumptions: - Russia cannot sustain the level of military and economic effort required to keep this war going for more than a month or so. - The western backers of Ukraine can sustain the level of military and economic effort required to keep Ukraine in the fight. - Putin needs either a 'win' or a very convincing scapegoat before he can call off the invasion and pack up his armies. - China would very much like to bring Russia into it's sphere of influence. Based on those I think Russia's military gains will peak soon and then they will slowly get pushed back as increasingly well armed Ukraine counterattacks against forces weakened by attrition, combat fatigue and lack of logistical support. I think peace talks become much more productive at that point because the window will be closing for Russia to salvage something out of the debacle, and I think Russian state TV will start laying the groundwork for placing the blame for the whole thing on military leaders, intelligence officials and maybe western attempts to goad Russia into a war it didn't want to wage. Russia probably walks away with Crimea and a pledge from Ukraine not to join NATO or something like that while Ukraine gets the Donbas back and reserves the right to join other mutual defence pacts that aren't NATO. I think China probably helps Russia out and gives them enough support to keep going for a little longer. Not so much because they want the war to drag on but they really want to have strong influence over post war Russia so I think they'll attempt to walk the fine line of providing economic and military assistance to Russia without pissing off the US too much. India might be the same although they seem to be keeping a much lower profile, maybe because they can't afford to annoy the west too much if they want western assistance next time China tries to gently caress with them. a pipe smoking dog posted:I check this thread because I think it's a good source of information, but then I read through it and find an entire page of goons arguing that you won't get wet from being in a boat... Over extending a counter offensive is a risk but even if it goes badly wrong it's probably limited to a single area of operations and wouldn't affect other parts of the conflict zone. From the information available it looks like there's lots of smaller scale counteroffensives rather than one big push against a localised Russian position so there's less risk to Ukraine's overall momentum if something goes wrong. In terms of tactics, small counteroffensives are probably very effective at keeping Russian forces off balance, making it really hard to consolidate and replenish their troops in the field.
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