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bunnyofdoom posted:No, but that was his cousin Marvin Feinnes?
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tribbledirigible posted:Marvin Feinnes? Garydemort
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Another failed expedition to the arctic: Vilhjalmur Stefansson's expedition in 1913 to try and find Crocker Land. Amongst his crew was the norwegian topograph Bjarne Mamen and seven inuits. His ship the Karluk got caught in the ice in the middle of septemver and Stefansson proclaimed that he would leave the ship to try and catch some fresh reindeer meat. His hunting expedition included a photographer, anthropologist and a secretary. The rest of the crew wondered why he didn't bring someone with actual hunting experience with him. January 11th Stefansson still hadn't returned and the Karluk was close to be completely crushed by the ice. The crew members then decided to try their luck on Wrangel Island. Tensions were rising and three members of the crew said that they would try and reach land on their own. The captain, Robert Bartlett, let them go and they were never seen again. They arrived on Wrangel Island on march 12th and Bartlett decided that he and one of inuits, Kataktovik, should try and seek help. On Wrangel Island tensions were so high that the survivors split into two groups and settled on the north and south side of the island. Bjarne Mamen, who suffered from a wounded leg and a mysterious illness, was on the south side. On may 17th one of the crew, George Malloch dies. A couple of days later Mamen also dies. On june 25th people awoke from a gunshot. They found Robert Williamson and Hugh Williams standing over a dead George Breddy. Breddy was disliked by all because he constantly got into arguments and stole food but his death still didn't ease the tension. Finally on september 7th Bartlett returned with the ship King and Wing. 11 out of 23 members of the expedition survived. Stefansson wrote a book called the Friendly Arctic about how easy it is to survive in the arctic. Mamen probably died of eating faulty pemmican.  (Mugpi, the youngest member of the expedition and one of the survivors. She died in 2008)
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So did Stefansson ever come back with that reindeer meat, or he just walked home?
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Had the same question. When did the "friendly Arctic" return him?
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tribbledirigible posted:Marvin Feinnes? 
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wheatpuppy posted:So did Stefansson ever come back with that reindeer meat, or he just walked home? He realized that the Karluk was doomed and left while it was still possible.
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Mar 15, 2022 21:25
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Oh so saying "going to hunt reindeer" is the Scandinavian equivalent of going out to get cigarettes
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Mar 15, 2022 21:48
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Whën æ vås sëvën yëårs öld mæ pappa vënt öüt til hönt rëïnðëër och nëvër kåmë bäkk.
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Soul Dentist posted:Oh so saying "going to hunt reindeer" is the Scandinavian equivalent of going out to get cigarettes In Greenland, they have the expression "qaqqamut" meaning "going to the mountains", which they'll use whenever they feel they need a break from everyone. I'd remind you all that Greenland has a population density of 0.028 persons per square kilometer and that the largest city is less than 20000 people.
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Mar 16, 2022 00:56
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That's too many people and I am feelin' the mountains for sure
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Mar 16, 2022 01:29
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*George Castanza voice* THAT'S IT! I'M GOIN TO THE MOUNTAINS!
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RagnarokZ posted:In Greenland, they have the expression "qaqqamut" meaning "going to the mountains", which they'll use whenever they feel they need a break from everyone. In Finland you just leave. If you don't feel like being around people, why the gently caress would you feel like talking to them?
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I love the thought of someone putting together a team to explore the Arctic, realizing halfway that they're surrounded by idiots who will probably get themselves killed and just noping out of your own expedition. - Hey, Stefansson, where you going? - [startled that someone noticed them leaving and looking very guilty] To... uhh... to hunt some reindeer meat! I'll be right back! - Cool! Bring a big piece for me, hah! - ...sure. [starts briskly walking towards the horizon]
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He was probably just mad that nobody remembered to bring a gong.
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Mar 16, 2022 11:52
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We talked about this, it was the gong OR the player piano, YOU said piano
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3D Megadoodoo posted:In Finland you just leave. If you don't feel like being around people, why the gently caress would you feel like talking to them? I'm told that if you do this at a party in the Anglosphere it's colloquially known as an Irish Goodbye.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:In Finland you just leave. If you don't feel like being around people, why the gently caress would you feel like talking to them? No they told everyone they are going to the mountains, mostly because of they notice your gone without telling anyone, they presume polar bears, blizzards of nowhere, got drunk and fell into the sea or you just got lost. By telling them, they know you've gone to one of a handful of mountains nearby and know where to look for you, in case of sudden massive snow and/or wind.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:In Finland you just leave. If you don't feel like being around people, why the gently caress would you feel like talking to them? Other places, people would go after them
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Only thing worse than a surprise party is a search party
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RagnarokZ posted:No they told everyone they are going to the mountains, mostly because of they notice your gone without telling anyone, they presume polar bears, blizzards of nowhere, got drunk and fell into the sea or you just got lost. ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Other places, people would go after them That's hosed up.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:That's hosed up. Agreed.
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barbecue at the folks posted:I love the thought of someone putting together a team to explore the Arctic, realizing halfway that they're surrounded by idiots who will probably get themselves killed and just noping out of your own expedition. And when of the crew said that other members of the crew wasn't suited to be on a polar expedition (because they were drug addicts and had smuggled alcohol on board) Stefansson fired him. Already before the voyage began members of the expedition voiced their concern that Stefansson was too busy with raising publicity around the voyage than making the proper preparations.
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So the guys who saw an issue and acted on it were fired, thus kept from danger, yes? And the only guys who left with him either didn't see any issues or didn't act on their concerns? And once the ship was safely in danger, Stefansson left and went home? I see success and a service to mankind! Wipfmetz has a new favorite as of 15:24 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:I'm told that if you do this at a party in the Anglosphere it's colloquially known as an Irish Goodbye. Oh I thought an irish goodbye in england was something else entirely
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It's called a black and tan there
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An Irish Goodbye is a large McFry.
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Fight me like a man
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FreudianSlippers posted:I'm told that if you do this at a party in the Anglosphere it's colloquially known as an Irish Goodbye. As opposed to 'Italian goodbye', which involves sticking around talking for at least half an hour in the doorway and another by the car. While you've told your children to pack up and be ready to go, and scold them if they try to do anything to pass the time.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:As opposed to 'Italian goodbye', which involves sticking around talking for at least half an hour in the doorway and another by the car. While you've told your children to pack up and be ready to go, and scold them if they try to do anything to pass the time. I wonder if that's a regional thing. A friend of mine from Long Island calls that the "Jewish Goodbye", but I've heard it as Italian in the Philly area. The Irish goodbye seems pretty widespread though.
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What is it called when everybody says goodbye too early and then they awkwardly repeat it several times before the leaving party actually gets around to leaving?
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Cincinnati checking in, we just call it a "Midwestern goodbye"
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Brawnfire posted:What is it called when everybody says goodbye too early and then they awkwardly repeat it several times before the leaving party actually gets around to leaving? The Brexit.
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Brawnfire posted:What is it called when everybody says goodbye too early and then they awkwardly repeat it several times before the leaving party actually gets around to leaving? Being Swedish
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2vX6gN_kXU&t=47s
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Simultaneously the worst and funniest Arctic explorer is a Swede, S. A. Andrée. In 1897 he decided to reach the North Pole in a hydrogen balloon. It went about as well as you'd expect. Some fun things that Andrée did: -Having the balloon go completely out of control already during his training trips, including almost crashing into Stockholm's archipelago and accidentally flying into Finland -Lying about how much the balloon lost hydrogen during flight and thus completely loving up calculations on how long they could be airborne -Taking homing pigeons, champagne and a crew consisting of guys described as "indoor types" aboard. Oh, they also had one guy who had broken his foot previously but didn't tell them. And this is just a tip of the iceberg. If there was a good option and a bad option, this guy would make up and choose a third option so loving terrible no one thought it could be possible. It's just a series of catastrophically bad ideas by a suicidal optimist. Heartily recommend reading the Wiki link, or reading Bea Uusma's book The expedition: a love story. Doll House Ghost has a new favorite as of 07:59 on Mar 18, 2022 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEigGPmYJuo Really wild some of the early ideas people had regarding paleontology, particularly when trying to make it match with their religious beliefs
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AFewBricksShy posted:I wonder if that's a regional thing. A friend of mine from Long Island calls that the "Jewish Goodbye", but I've heard it as Italian in the Philly area. This is typical among family and friends i meet in Portugal (and less so in Sweden where i live). Maybe more common in "warmer" mediterranean cultures? People get dressed and stand by the door to leave, you kiss goodbye but then they just hang around for 15 minutes talking but since you already kissed/shaked hands you just leave when the conversation ends without a second parting gesture.
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Doll House Ghost posted:[...]hot air balloon. [...] Not trying to be snarky, those _were_ adventurous times full of hydrogen based air travel. My Airship Favourite Fun Fact is the smoking room on the Hindenburg. Please consider that with the Hindenburg, the passenger space was integrated into the frame, as opposed to hanging underneath it. So yes, somebody designed a smoking room engulfed in a volume of hydrogen. (and that wasn't even the reason for the disaster. I think something about the protection paint of the outer skin was the reason for it?) Wipfmetz has a new favorite as of 07:05 on Mar 18, 2022 |
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Wipfmetz posted:What? Did he use hydrogen as fuel for the burner? Or was the balloon filled with hydrogen AND he put a burner underneath? Lmao no, that was my sleepy brain adding "hot air" there.
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