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Just catching up on the Behind the Bastard appearances from D&J, and I'd forgotten just how hilariously terrible the IHeartRadio podcasts that get advertised on BtB are - Dua Lipa talking to pop stars about how hard their lives are? Some actress from shows I've literally never heard of talking about "empowerment"? A podcast about how true crime podcasts are made? Who the *gently caress* is ever going to listen to these things? They all sound like joke podcasts made up by The Onion to take the piss out of lib podcasts.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:They all sound like joke podcasts made up by The Onion to take the piss out of lib podcasts. 
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Well come to the future of corporate podcasting. Podcasts are so cheap to produce that you can just flood the zone with lovely ones with C-List celebs until a winner or two sticks. They're all loving loss leaders.
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I assume the idea is that there are a lot of people who are fans of [celebrity] who have never listened to a podcast, but will learn to do so if it means getting more [celebrity] in their lives. Getting people to learn what a podcast is and how to listen to it has historically been the biggest hurdle, even though you'd think we'd be past that in 2022. Ideally once they've got podcasts set up on their phone anyway they'll branch out into more of them and keep listening even after [celebrity] moves onto their next pet project. Why they advertise these projects on podcasts, listened to by people who already know what a podcast is, is a mystery to me. I guess they gotta throw something in there when Raytheon doesn't want to spring for an ad about the latest and greatest in knife missile technology.
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I suppose we can't throw stones *that* much, given we're in the thread for talking about two Chicago-based standup comedians going into microscopic detail about the antics of a fringe right-wing media figure, it's arguably considerably more niche and weird than anything Dua Lipa has to say, it's just something about the presentation of them as something that they think that I might be interested in that makes me laugh. I mean Knowledge Fight definitely isn't even the weirdest, nichest thing I listen to either - this sudden outbreak of seeing the other side came because my latest KF episode came between listening to a podcast about bad Kickstarter projects that was an offshoot from a thread on these very forums (Your Kickstarter Sucks), and two grown men discussing an episode of a 40--year-old Saturday afternoon drama (Top Flight Time Machine, which started as a football (soccer) podcast but is now the UK's premium source for information on digging holes, ghosts, and dads on roofs). Given I pay actual money, that I earn, to listen to those two (and KF) suddenly a podcast where someone shares backstage secrets about Beverly Hills 90210 doesn't sound quite so out of the ordinary.
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Dan has become the foremost expert on Alex Jones and Infowars
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Firstscion posted:Dan has become the foremost expert on Alex Jones and Infowars I do wonder why Jones hasn't woven any narratives around Dan and Jordan like he usually does when someone pays attention to him
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DarklyDreaming posted:I do wonder why Jones hasn't woven any narratives around Dan and Jordan like he usually does when someone pays attention to him The obvious answer is that he's uncomfortable with the idea of anyone paying attention to them, even if they're generally well-programmed. Dan and Jordan are approachable and funny and they don't code as threatening to white conservatives (at least until you hear them really get going on a particular topic). They have intrinsic credibility if an Alex Jones fan was to find their stuff, and that's bad for him.
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tracecomplete posted:The obvious answer is that he's uncomfortable with the idea of anyone paying attention to them, even if they're generally well-programmed. Dan and Jordan are approachable and funny and they don't code as threatening to white conservatives (at least until you hear them really get going on a particular topic). They have intrinsic credibility if an Alex Jones fan was to find their stuff, and that's bad for him. Yeah, and to add to this, while a lot of KF is about criticising Jones's terrible political ideology, a good chunk of it is also about criticising Jones's behavior as a person and as a supposed news source. An Infowars fan might be able to dismiss Dan calling out Jones's transphobia, but if something like him pointing out Alex never doing anything more than reading the headline of an article before reporting on it sticks, that's a problem for Alex because that can cost him a listener regardless of ideology. I think something else that keeps Jones from targeting Dan and Jordan more is that they aren't doing things like going on TV and doing the media rounds whenever Alex does something that gets media coverage. Jones can't take a soundbite of Dan talking about him on CNN out of context, and he's far too lazy to go through an episode of KF to find something to rag on Dan for
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I also think that Jones being criticised in real time, to the backing of his own words coming right out of his mouth clipped directly from the show in incredibly more damaging than an article Jones can quote and take out of context. Drawing attention to that instead of an already "discretied" news source is intrisicly more damaging.
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The first few chapters of that book the guest author wrote are painful to read. The next few chapters are from a different book entirely. ... goes to show the nature of the problem, really. I'm hardly finished with it, but I noticed a few interesting gems thus far. What I found surprising, despite having listened to a large part of Knowledge Fight, was how embedded Alex's first wife was in early Infowars. It's easy to forget, considering how public and bitter their divorce was, and especially since it was her expert witnesses in the child custody case that made public Alex's narcissistic personality diagnosis. The reason they first met was because they were both attempting to gin up media attention, and she was even there during the Bohemian Grove infiltration, even if that isn't mentioned much these days. It also gets into just how much money they were making at the time, even if Dan and Jordan are insistent that the financial documents given to the court cases were likely fudged or laundered to appear much lower than they actually are. quote:In those years Kelly, Jones’s right hand, was preoccupied with homeschooling the couple’s three young children and tending to the demands of their new, moneyed lifestyle. The couple had a house on Lake Travis, but their base was a walled compound outside Austin, a heavy-beamed, stucco former ranch house with a safe full of firearms. The kids tumbled about with the family’s four dogs: Kelly’s Chihuahua, Bambi, a Labrador named Biggie, and two French bulldogs, Captain Fantastic and Sparky.
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The MTG interview is sobering. She's so deep into the conspiracy mindset that she thinks there's a conspiracy in the House
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Froghammer posted:The MTG interview is sobering. She's so deep into the conspiracy mindset that she thinks there's a conspiracy in the House She's going to be President within the next 15 years. That's the reality of America, right now.
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The conservative media sphere drives people in it completely insane. My Dad recently just came around to this, he was telling my mom about how Russians were pushing the anti-mask stuff. Nothing kicks a boomer awake more than The Ruskies actually being a threat it seems. But I donno how to deal with this stuff. There's always been a deeply insane group of people in American politics, and honestly in humanity in general. Everywhere is influenced by complete madmen who believe bizarre things, and who will gladly believe those things over much easier, more explanatory, and more sane things. It's not the majority, it never has been and hopefully never will be, but that doesn't stop their influence. MTG is disgusting, stupid, lovely, bizarre, and embarrassing. But she is an honest to god representation of people in america, just like every other disgusting, stupid, lovely, bizarre and embarrassing politician ever has been. I don't see a MTG presidency without a sundering, she's genuinely repellant to normal people who do exist in large numbers still. Any event related to Ukraine around you will see normal people out in force, taking the obvious side and obvious actions that you'd expect. But she's where the internet conservative is at the moment, batshit crazy and unfit for any sort of power.
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Kinda depends how you want to define "sundering" I guess, but large and growing portions of the Republican base and media empire are outright calling for the destruction of democratic elections when they lose them.
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bird food bathtub posted:Kinda depends how you want to define "sundering" I guess, but large and growing portions of the Republican base and media empire are outright calling for the destruction of democratic elections when they lose them. Yeah that'd be a sundering right there. The rest of the country and the rest of the would wouldn't be happy about that, and everything would rapidly fall apart. There's no clean break, either, it's urban/rural and there's no way things could go any other way but nasty. It's a bigger possibility than I would've admitted even in 2017, but it'd be insane and self-destructive in a way that no one could escape.
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Shageletic posted:Honestly turning off news media helps. It certainly is helping me out and it makes the constant waves of propaganda roiling thru the entire industry much more apparent Oh, I've stopped paying attention to The Discourse. It's insane. Like, it's amazing how completely nuts people are when they talk about this stuff online rather than talking to like, normal people who care about things. There's a Ukrainian cultural center in my city and they've been having fundraising dinners and rallies and all that, and hanging out with those people feels like... sane? There's justified worry, but also an understanding of what's happened. The only mention of Nazis is when someone talked about how sad it was that a holocaust museum was destroyed. People want to talk about how to help rather than bitch about whatever it is that they're interested in bitching about. Like I said, my Dad, who at one point told the family that he thought Muslim refugees were actually just sneaking in to have a lot of kids that were US citizens to do terrorist attacks, seems to have been shaken out of his conservative media stupor and has talked about how Russian influence was literally being used on people like him. Talking to normal people, it feels like there's been a big change in how people see things and are looking at this as a horrible emergency that has made them re-think what's important. However, not everyone is normal. A lot of people are not normal. Online, people are still fighting over insane poo poo like usual. Few people have the defenses to remain normal in a storm of Discourse. I know I sure didn't. I don't know how to get people outta there or how to curb the influence of the insane, even though I've stepped away from it all.
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Was trying to find the episode when Alex Jones was muttering to Glenn Frye's You Belong to the City, still need help with that, but lol found this: https://hearthis.at/danarchy/city-kf/
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Shageletic posted:Was trying to find the episode when Alex Jones was muttering to Glenn Frye's You Belong to the City, still need help with that, but lol found this: I mean, Alex talks over You Belong To The City all the time. I'm working backwards through KF because I have a brain problem, and on the Dec 31 2019 episode, they mention that it's a recent addition to the lineup.
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Jordan guested on Billy Wayne Davis's podcast. Fun listen and we learn a little KF behind the scenes info that maybe we shouldn't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMF-2EMAoCk
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The constant audio glitches are a bit weird. They've obviously both bought good mics, but a 10m cat5e cable was too much?
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I'm a little salty with Jordan revealing that only because I enjoyed the mystery. I refuse to believe that Alex actually knows about KF and until he starts adding cross eyes and beards to the descriptions of the globalist goblins he's always running into. Alex has no capacity not to attack someone's appearance.
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I just assumed that Alex had to know and Free Speech Systems would have had to reach out. Now I want to know in what capacity did they reach out? I'm guessing lawsuit.
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Megabound posted:I just assumed that Alex had to know and Free Speech Systems would have had to reach out. Now I want to know in what capacity did they reach out? I'm guessing lawsuit. I wonder if this is why there's a stretch where Dan plays clips a couple times of Alex saying on air that anyone is allowed to use and replay any InfoWars material any way they like.
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Megabound posted:I just assumed that Alex had to know and Free Speech Systems would have had to reach out. Now I want to know in what capacity did they reach out? I'm guessing lawsuit. I think that Info Wars staff reached out specifically because they don't want Alex to find out about KF. They have enough braincells amongst them to know that Alex would gently caress up real bad if he attacked them.
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Alex is such a narcissist that there's no way he hasn't googled himself and found the podcast, and listened to part of it. Anything that has his name attached he's drawn to like a moth to flame. I think he doesn't talk about it because the format is incredibly damaging and he can't use the globalist boogeyman as a scapegoat in this particular instance.
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A highlight of listening to these older KF episodes has been the investigation into when Alex went from being his regular terrible self to being fully trump-pilled insane. They started ep46 with June 18, 2015 the day Trump announced his candidacy and proceed from there. I just got to the MONEY BOMB
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Tree Dude posted:A highlight of listening to these older KF episodes has been the investigation into when Alex went from being his regular terrible self to being fully trump-pilled insane. I'm doing the same it's amazing how long he doesn't go in on Trump.
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