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KitConstantine posted:Are the engineering corps officers typically likely to get murked? Combat engineers? Sure. It's an occupational hazard. They're often tasked with front line work, but are not typically as hardened/capable as normal combat units.
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psydude posted:Based upon some of the articles I'm seeing, the Territorial Defense Forces are taking fairly heavy losses (vs. the UKA), which makes sense given most of them are little more than a militia that received a couple of weeks of training and some surplus equipment. yeah they're lightly trained militia with minimal weaponry going up against armored vehicle columns. No doubt they're probably quite useful in concert with regular forces, but on their own that's a pretty bleak prospect and it makes me really appreciate that I'm thousands of miles away safe and warm. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Mar 18, 2022 |
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lmao. The Kremlin is hosting a feel-good rally to celebrate their annexation of Crimea, and is paying people to show up and cheer: https://twitter.com/DemeryUK/status/1504789087995191297
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psydude posted:lmao. The Kremlin is hosting a feel-good rally to celebrate their annexation of Crimea, and is paying people to show up and cheer: The values of that generous offer are $2.86 on the low end to the princely sum of *checks notes* $13.33 at the high end. So in short;  indeed.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:The values of that generous offer are $2.86 on the low end to the princely sum of *checks notes* $13.33 at the high end. I wonder if Putin is handing the false flags out along with the checks or if he'll wait till after the bomb goes off
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I'm seeing lots of unconfirmed accounts of Ukraine swatting Russian air assets and missiles out of the sky. The Ukrainian gov't is claiming 14 Russian aircraft downed in 24 hours and at least 2 missiles shot down. I guess those AA assets have been deployed?
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psydude posted:Based upon some of the articles I'm seeing, the Territorial Defense Forces are taking fairly heavy losses (vs. the UKA), which makes sense given most of them are little more than a militia that received a couple of weeks of training and some surplus equipment. Herstory Begins Now posted:yeah they're lightly trained militia with minimal weaponry going up against armored vehicle columns. No doubt they're probably quite useful in concert with regular forces, but on their own that's a pretty bleak prospect and it makes me really appreciate that I'm thousands of miles away safe and warm. Aren't they former conscripts that have been through the same training that everyone else though? That's sort of the point of conscript armies.
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Xakura posted:Aren't they former conscripts that have been through the same training that everyone else though? That's sort of the point of conscript armies. How bold of you to assume that anyone received "training". If, big if, they did receive adequate training it didn't take. Watching these videos of Russians reacting to ambush makes the militia training videos out of Michigan or Florida look high speed. Edit: are you talking about Ukraine or Russia? The militia in Ukraine theoretically had training however many years ago. They were given like a 24 hour refresher, a Javelin, a rifle, ammo, and sent on their way to help farmers steal tanks. These are average joes slinging anti tank rockets, I'm surprised there are more casualties. ASAPI fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Mar 18, 2022 |
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Xakura posted:Aren't they former conscripts that have been through the same training that everyone else though? That's sort of the point of conscript armies. No that's not what the ukr territorials are. They are everything from in practice untrained volounteers to reservists no longer fit for regular army service, ie to old etc. I guess we'll need effortposts about what conscription really is and how it works eventually - since so many people think its just means "bad soldier" - but ugh For now; conscription is a recruitment tool. Nothing more nothing less. It's the training and the recruits physical status and motivation that ultimately matters, not the employment contract.
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Just because someone's a veteran doesn't mean you can throw them into combat with a week's notice. My broken rear end would probably last about 5 minutes before I threw my back out thanks to a prior service injury. And most of my day to day military knowledge has also been replaced by more useful things, like how to reverse sear a perfect filet, or the best way to make brussels sprouts. e: Most of it's food and beverage related, to be honest.
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psydude posted:Just because someone's a veteran doesn't mean you can throw them into combat with a week's notice. My broken rear end would probably last about 5 minutes before I threw my back out thanks to a prior service injury. And most of my day to day military knowledge has also been replaced by more useful things, like how to reverse sear a perfect filet, or the best way to make brussels sprouts. Army needs cooks, here's a mop
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:No that's not what the ukr territorials are. They are everything from in practice untrained volounteers to reservists no longer fit for regular army service, ie to old etc. I see, here everyone is assigned to the home guard after service, I was assuming TDF was somewhat similar. psydude posted:Just because someone's a veteran doesn't mean you can throw them into combat with a week's notice. My broken rear end would probably last about 5 minutes before I threw my back out thanks to a prior service injury. And most of my day to day military knowledge has also been replaced by more useful things, like how to reverse sear a perfect filet, or the best way to make brussels sprouts. Ofc, but there'd also be cohorts 1 year out, etc. ASAPI posted:The militia in Ukraine theoretically had training however many years ago. They were given like a 24 hour refresher, a Javelin, a rifle, ammo, and sent on their way to help farmers steal tanks. These are average joes slinging anti tank rockets, I'm surprised there are more casualties. Pretty sure TDF received ~0 Javelins, from what we've seen.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Did Clive Owen brain him with a cinder block after he got stuck in a door? What in god's name is the source of this reference
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Conscripts from pre ~2015 ukraine are going to be from soviet pattern of conscription and training, insofar as the ukrainian army was even meaningfully training people in the 2000s (not saying that they weren't, just that estimates of combat ready troops for Ukraine in the early 2010s was mid 4 figures). anyone conscripted after ~2015 is increasingly trained to what is apparently approaching NATO standards. So TDF is going to be filled with really quite a range
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I keep hearing about Russian propoganda about them capturing piles of unused Javelins and NLAWs from "inept" Ukrainian soldiers but I've yet to see anything verifying it.
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Milo and POTUS posted:What in god's name is the source of this reference Children of Men. The cop they hire to sneak them into the immigrant ghetto tries to steal the child, and he ends up getting his head bashed in.
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M_Gargantua posted:I keep hearing about Russian propoganda about them capturing piles of unused Javelins and NLAWs from "inept" Ukrainian soldiers but I've yet to see anything verifying it. Because all the stuff they've 'captured' this far has been spent tubes with no missile in it, as far as the actual ones they've shown.
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Xakura posted:I see, here everyone is assigned to the home guard after service, I was assuming TDF was somewhat similar. yeah, ukr doesn't have an unlimited number of javelins, so they're definitely giving them to their best trained troops. some of those troops could be conscripts at the end of their service, or reservists who had just finished their conscription before the war began, but their older second grade reservists or militias aren't getting any
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psydude posted:how to reverse sear a perfect filet Request for Information
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psydude posted:Children of Men. The cop they hire to sneak them into the immigrant ghetto tries to steal the child, and he ends up getting his head bashed in. Oh. He doesn't really look like sid to me though
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Cimber posted:Request for Information I like to do it with New Yorks, and look forward to learning how Psy does his. Pull them out of the fridge, pat dry, salt and pepper, let it come to room temperature 235-250f in the oven for 12-15m per inch of thickness (even as long as 20m/in) Meanwhile have a cast iron skillet preheating in the oven Put the skillet on the stove and get it hot as balls Pull the steaks out, first sear the fat strip to render it down into the pan, then sear the steak for a minute or two each side in the middle of the fat puddle. I'm still at the stage where I need to pull the batteries out of the smoke detector before the searing, so I'm still practicing.
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Arrath posted:I'm still at the stage where I need to pull the batteries out of the smoke detector before the searing, so I'm still practicing. Life is short, but it's much shorter if one doesn't remember much of it. Forget the smoke detector, enjoy yourself. Let it serenade your taste magics! It's a song to remember it by
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Arrath posted:I like to do it with New Yorks, and look forward to learning how Psy does his. Brush the steak with a high-temp oil like avocado before searing, better crust and less smoke than adding oil or butter to the pan itself. Also just don't use butter unless you're A) using high quality poo poo, and B) butter basting with aromatics like garlic and thyme and rosemary.
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Smoke detectors really need a snooze button.
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CommieGIR posted:Smoke detectors really need a snooze button. Agreed (other than flailing about trying to clear the smoke). There's probably a liability aspect to it though.
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M_Gargantua posted:I keep hearing about Russian propoganda about them capturing piles of unused Javelins and NLAWs from "inept" Ukrainian soldiers but I've yet to see anything verifying it. I haven't seen them prove they have working/powered CLUs, but it's inevitable that they'll grab them at some point. https://twitter.com/gahamalian/status/1504468044562673668 https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1502190013013966851
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Diarrhea Elemental posted:Brush the steak with a high-temp oil like avocado before searing, better crust and less smoke than adding oil or butter to the pan itself. Also just don't use butter unless you're A) using high quality poo poo, and B) butter basting with aromatics like garlic and thyme and rosemary. Good info. I'm in a 'meat of the month' club with a farm co-op, delivers freshly slaughtered meats to my door from farms upstate and in Vermont. Much better stuff than i get at my local grocery store, but I do pay a premium for it.
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Yeah glad to confirm that I'm not missing something. Just a previously normal coworker going full tankie "the west is all cia funded propoganda" and "sanctions only hurt the US fiat economy" trying to square their worldviews with Russia eating poo poo currently.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Oh. He doesn't really look like sid to me though He looks like a mini boss version of Lukashenko Who is a mini boss of Putin
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Javelins don’t do much good to Russian armor facing anti tank infantry.
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SlowBloke posted:The cracked firmwares that you saw on US media coverage of john deere DRM do come from Ukraine They just keep getting cooler and cooler.
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Churchill posted:Agreed (other than flailing about trying to clear the smoke). There's probably a liability aspect to it though. Mine has that. If the smoke is still around after 5 minutes, though, it'll start up again. (This has never come up.)
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Ask me how I found out my apartment's smoke alarm is integrated in to building wiring and calls the fire department automatically.
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bird food bathtub posted:Ask me how I found out my apartment's smoke alarm is integrated in to building wiring and calls the fire department automatically. How did you find out your apartment's smoke alarm is integrated in to building wiring?
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bird food bathtub posted:Ask me how I found out my apartment's smoke alarm is integrated in to building wiring and calls the fire department automatically. Do you have like an actual cooking hood or some poo poo over your stove?
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Arrath posted:I like to do it with New Yorks, and look forward to learning how Psy does his. Yeah basically this. Key is temperature control: I know some people hate using probes, but I've honestly had nothing but good results. And, as others have suggested, using an oil with a high smoke point to avoid the bitterness. Only thing I'd change is actually avoid the pepper until it's done, because it will char during the sear.
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Xakura posted:Aren't they former conscripts that have been through the same training that everyone else though? That's sort of the point of conscript armies. The pre-2015 classes had really lovely, if any, military training. The post-2015 classes had the best training that western advisors could give, but a lot of those are part of the active reserve, meaning they don't go join the territorial forces, they are either reinforcing existing brigades of the regular army or currently being raised as new brigades and receiving refresher training. The territorial forces have a core of well-trained people, but most of them are volunteers who for one reason or another were not considered fit for the regular army. Either never received the training, aged out, or failed a later physical.
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I know it's already been said, but thanks for this thread. I started in the GBS Ukraine thread, but this is so much more informative and has less pearl clutching.
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