Blooming Brilliant posted:Edit: Speaking of card draw: Not technically card draw as you end up with a hand smaller than you started with, but the filtering here is a dream for goofy Wild combo decks.
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Isnt the dredge mechanic a bit like building a side deck? Like you can draw it in reverse at the end but if you can add to and draw from it then it's almost like a mini second deck...
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Mar 18, 2022 16:20
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Doesn't your deck get reshuffled when you shuffle a card into it? How does that work with Dredge? For example if I sink a card one turn and then the other, will both show up in my next Dredge?
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Mar 18, 2022 16:40
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Disargeria posted:Doesn't your deck get reshuffled when you shuffle a card into it? How does that work with Dredge? For example if I sink a card one turn and then the other, will both show up in my next Dredge? but youre not shuffling a card, youre looking at the bottom and moving one card up. usually those mechanics do not disturb the rest, so your next dredge should be the two you left buried + whatever was right before them
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Mar 18, 2022 16:44
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The biggest impact dredge will have is that "I can't believe <card and essential combopiece> was the actual last card in my deck!" will be a thing of the past. It will be replaced by complaints about the middle of the deck.
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Mar 18, 2022 17:02
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I can't believe Mozaki was my 27th card.
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Mar 18, 2022 17:05
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Excelzior posted:but youre not shuffling a card, youre looking at the bottom and moving one card up. usually those mechanics do not disturb the rest, so your next dredge should be the two you left buried + whatever was right before them Right but I mean in the context of another card like, spirit shards or whatever that constantly get shuffled into your deck. This seems like it would trigger a reshuffle that negates any attempt to sink a card and Dredge it up unless you do those actions next to each other, combo style.
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Mar 18, 2022 17:16
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Dredge putting the card on the top of your deck seems really odd. It just seems like you have to have a ton line up for the mechanic to be worth going out of your way for. Having a "skip" button if you don't like any of the cards would feel good at least. I do think it's funny they talk about clamping down on otk when their new mechanic is a combo mechanic.
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Mar 18, 2022 17:24
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Sir Finely is godlike for non-combo control decks. Lot of scenarios esp in control v. control where your hand is full of removal and you can't do anything proactive, Finley gives you a second mulligan sometimes of 6-9 new cards which is crazy good.
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Mar 18, 2022 17:27
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Two more Collosi Gigafin 8 Mana Warlock Legendary Colossal +1 Battlecry: Devour all enemy minions Deathrattle: Spit them Out 7/4 Gigafin's Maw Taunt Deathrattle: permanently destroy all minions devoured by Gigafin 4/7 Colossal Mech (not real name) 8 mana Mage Mech Colossal +2 Anytime a friendly Mech attacks deal 1 damage to all enemies 5/7 Drill Fists Mech Rush 2/3
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Mar 18, 2022 17:38
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I will shed tears of joy if Mech Mage becomes a thing again. I think it was last viable in the Goblins vs Gnomes set.
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Mar 18, 2022 17:41
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No Wave posted:Dredge putting the card on the top of your deck seems really odd. It just seems like you have to have a ton line up for the mechanic to be worth going out of your way for. Having a "skip" button if you don't like any of the cards would feel good at least. Too lazy to look it up, but will there cards left in standard that mess with the top card(s) in your deck? Altar of Fire at least is still in standard, most of the others (Gnomeferatu, Mischief Maker) are Wild.
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Mar 18, 2022 17:58
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Two more Collosi Mage mech is the first colossal to really nail the flavor imo. It hitting the table and both fists popping up is gonna feel cool.
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Mar 18, 2022 18:48
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I'd slightly disagree. Realise we've only seen four so far but currently all the Colossal minions look great and nail the flavour of a BIG monster minion.
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Mar 18, 2022 18:52
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The idea of a creature and its mouth acting as independent attacking units feels weird. Mech with two hands makes sense though. I'd do it differently though. I'd have colossus units share the same panorama art and have the art stretch around as you move parts of it to attack.
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Mar 18, 2022 18:56
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worth mentioning Gigafin does NOT trigger deathrattles
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Mar 18, 2022 19:17
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Blasmeister posted:Thinking more on it, Dredge seems kinda bad as a standalone card selection mechanic, as the 2nd dredge will presumably include the 2 cards you passed on already. Might be as bold as to say you'll only want it to enable the 'put an insane card on the bottom of your deck' cards. Makes me wonder how many Shuffle effects that see play are around as they might benefit from all this. Just because you passed on a card the first time doesn't mean you necessarily would in the future. It can be a positive to know your next dredge will guarantee something you can't take now but want later on. Also, lol joust synergy
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Mar 18, 2022 20:05
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honestly I feel like something with Dredge for your opponent is much better than Dredge for yourself neutralising their next draw and also learning what threats they're probably not going to get to use this game both seem pretty powerful tools e: outside of ridiculous Wild wombo-combo decks I guess
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Mar 18, 2022 20:09
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The Mage Mech makes me hope that Zilliax gets rotated into core for this year. 
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Mar 18, 2022 20:12
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Disargeria posted:Doesn't your deck get reshuffled when you shuffle a card into it? How does that work with Dredge? For example if I sink a card one turn and then the other, will both show up in my next Dredge? This is not worth asking right now, because no one knows what their intent is, and even if we did, there is a strong possibility it will just be coded incorrectly and do something else lmao
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Mar 18, 2022 21:08
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Have they revealed that you can't summon Colossal minions if you don't have space for them, or will they destroy your own minions depending on placement if they're in the way?
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Mar 18, 2022 21:19
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RatHat posted:worth mentioning Gigafin does NOT trigger deathrattles Deathrattles trigger, just like for Abominable Lieutenant Card low-key kinda bad (unless you play one of the warlock self-sacrifice spells but that's a two card board clear with a 4 hp body which is ... eh) Firebert fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 18, 2022 |
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Mar 18, 2022 21:26
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Also, I'd really like to know how Colossal battlecries will work with Brann and Shudderwock in Wild.
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Mar 18, 2022 21:31
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Yeah considering with the way that your deck is reshuffled any time any effect puts anything in your deck or touches it in any way (unless they have recoded the way this works) the whole put stuff at the bottom then do something to get it or put it at the top for the next turn, seems super fragile
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Mar 18, 2022 22:03
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curse of agony warlock ahoy
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Mar 18, 2022 22:05
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Also, I'd really like to know how Colossal battlecries will work with Brann and Shudderwock in Wild. They aren't battlecries. Colossal is "when summoned, also summon X of this card's specific extra unit", which is distinct from a Battlecry that summons a specific unit when you play it from hand. Well, I guess it works with whatever separate battlecries they have, but that doesn't feel like what you're asking.
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Mar 18, 2022 22:57
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Yeah, they explicitly said colossal doesn't have to be played from hand, so it definitely doesn't follow the same rules as battlecries. Colossal with bounce or copy effects should be interesting though.
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Mar 18, 2022 23:46
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I just tried a few mercenaries PvP queues with the old "three high level guys and three low level guys with zero upgrades" strategy. I'm only matching with bots after a minute of queue time. Looks like farming bots is back on the menu.
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Mar 18, 2022 23:56
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I like how it took almost 9 years for a second card to use the "counter" keyword
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Mar 19, 2022 00:07
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An easier way to understand it for our smoothbrain players would be "When summoned, summon x"
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Mar 19, 2022 00:16
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https://twitter.com/HSTopDecks/status/1505020010711891971 Two nutty ramp/spell druid cards and another colossal minion. If any of these colossi are playable, silence is gonna be at a premium, they are heavy on taunt and deathrattle so far
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Mar 19, 2022 04:23
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Nellie is really cool EDIT: looking forward to the Trolden clip of someone getting 3 Mr. Smite
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Mar 19, 2022 04:51
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The phantom cheev is still not fixed, and now mysterious strangers softlock the game til you retire the bounty run if you have no uncompleted tasks left. maybe next patch...
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Mar 19, 2022 04:54
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I'm sure that pirate warrior legendary will be cancerous, but that is some A+ flavor
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Mar 19, 2022 05:07
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I feel like Hedra is going to be in that tier where everyone agrees there's potential, but no one can make it work until like 2 sets into next rotation.
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Mar 19, 2022 05:18
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I feel like Hedra is going to be in that tier where everyone agrees there's potential, but no one can make it work until like 2 sets into next rotation. Druid is losing pretty much everything except Guff so 2 sets might even be optimistic
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Mar 19, 2022 05:42
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Firebert posted:https://twitter.com/HSTopDecks/status/1505020010711891971 The art on Gaia's other drill better be flipped, I swear to god
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Mar 19, 2022 06:27
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Baller Ina posted:The art on Gaia's other drill better be flipped, I swear to god There's one portrait for each side but identical stats Even the legendary with 4 tentacles has unique art for each one gandlethorpe fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Mar 19, 2022 |
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Mar 19, 2022 06:31
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Yeah they just split up the full art for it so it’s all unique. I think the Demon Hunter one is the biggest art they’ve made for a single card?
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They made full art pieces for the colossi and then framed them for the token portraits, the full Xhilag art is up on the press site and it is absurdly wide lol
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