Nieuw Amsterdam posted:

“We take all the casualties, just send money and guns” are the golden magic words to say to US Policymakers.

The only political downsides come from dead Americans. Zero dead Americans? Motherfucker, here’s a billion dollars and everything we have short of a nuke.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Yeah, that's why people are posting links of dudes getting blown up, because they're trying to impress upon the thread the gravity of war

deep dish peat moss posted:

My favorite part about that long SYSV Fanfic post is how it opens with "you know, you can just ignore posts you don't like" followed by a multiple-paragraph opinion piece about the kinds of posts the poster doesn't like

Boba Pearl posted:

I would appreciate if you could explain to me why this is appropriate, and how this helps the thread have a more robust conversation about the War in Ukraine.

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Weekly reminder you can just ignore posts you don't agree with. You don't have to defend your posts. Example:

Hiroshima/Fire bombing of tokyo used to really bother me. Then I read about the breadth and depth of Japanese atrocities in China, atrocities against the residents of Guam, the rape of Manilla, the horrors visited upon the rest of the people of the Phillipines during the 1944 campaign, the murder of black workers on wake island, and any other number of horrific acts - such as lying about how women and children would be treated on saipan, leading to them jumping to death. Japan and the Japanese people worked very hard and very diligently to earn the lack of regard that lead to the bombs being dropped. I'm no longer bothered.

Not everyone deserves your empathy. Who gives a gently caress about soldiers that got blown up in their tanks/brakytared. At this point they all know what they're doing and what they're participating in. They can shoot their officers and camp on the roadside if they don't want to be complicit.

The world isn't a mental health support group and humans are just animals. Violence is part of our reality, especially the male human reality, and sometimes it's ok to celebrate it. Most of us have a really good limiter on when it's acceptable. If you feel good to see burning Russian tanks, and you aren't normally a violent person, it's because the people in those tanks are associated with something that flipped that switch. You don't have to justify feeling like they deserved it, because feeling that way/severing empathy is a normal human reaction.

Bluemillion posted:

Gentlemen you can't post war footage in here! This is the war thread!

Bluemillion posted:

Gentlemen you can't post war footage in here! This is the war thread!

Cartoon Man posted:

https://i.imgur.com/C1RcxL2.mp4

R.L. Stine posted:

dracula vladdy AF posted:

I've just kind of poked my head into this thread periodically looking for news on the war, what is even happening in here? extremely weirded out by the handful people enjoying seeing dead people. aggressors or not that's messed up

Pitdragon posted:

reminds me of the second iraq war except this time we're cheering for the deaths of the invaders instead of the invaded

so... progress?

R.L. Stine posted:

R.L. Stine posted:

Pitdragon posted:

reminds me of the second iraq war except this time we're cheering for the deaths of the invaders instead of the invaded

so... progress?

R.L. Stine posted:

Grape posted:

Ah neat, a thread stuffed full of far more grotesque sociopathic posts than the ones you were tut tutting earlier. Good rec.

Varinn posted:

R.L. Stine posted:

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Hiroshima/Fire bombing of tokyo used to really bother me. Then I read about the breadth and depth of Japanese atrocities in China, atrocities against the residents of Guam, the rape of Manilla, the horrors visited upon the rest of the people of the Phillipines during the 1944 campaign, the murder of black workers on wake island, and any other number of horrific acts - such as lying about how women and children would be treated on saipan, leading to them jumping to death. Japan and the Japanese people worked very hard and very diligently to earn the lack of regard that lead to the bombs being dropped. I'm no longer bothered.

Sentinel posted:

This invasion has been constant "I think ive seen 16 year olds make better plays playing paintball."
This world is strange.

Joke Miriam posted:

So, Russia's "excuse" for this poo poo is that there's been "genocide" of people in the separatist areas.
Is there ANY truth to this? Or rather, what things are happening that they've interpreted as genocide for the sake of their casus belli?

I know there's been skirmishing along the border since 2014, is it just that? Has Ukraine been doing hosed up stuff? Countries in general are known to do hosed up stuff on occasion, such as Russia invading Ukraine right now being super hosed up.


I figure here's a good place to ask.

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

ISS is about to get its air shut off

https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/1504947364863299593?t=UIRfjTbwO_D3lJY6t4wdTA&s=19

R.L. Stine posted:

Funky See Funky Do posted:

lol

Xaintrailles posted:

You were? Ew.

R.L. Stine posted:

deep dish peat moss posted:

We're the first generation in existence to have the capacity to see atrocities committed halfway across the world live in our bedrooms at any hour of the night so there is no "right" or "wrong" way to feel about what you see in The Bad Videos, there is no precedent for it in human history and it is a brand new thing our brains are having to deal with for the first time ever, collectively. No human before modern times was ever able to witness awful humanitarian crisis unfiltered while also being physically nowhere near the events taking place. Making jokes and emotionally detaching are perfectly normal coping mechanisms for humans experiencing any kind of new or traumatic phenomena and no one should be made to feel bad for them.

Humans usually do not feel one pure emotion at a time but we talk about our feelings as if we do, and when someone says they "find joy" in watching soldiers die there's an incredibly good chance that they are feeling a lot more than just "joy". Their minds are scrambling to justify what they just saw. The justification comes first and the processing comes later. Just because someone said they found joy in watching The Bad Video of a Russian Tank Being Smoked does not mean that joy is the only thing they will continue to feel about it.

But just like with any hot take grim & controversial opinion, there's no reason to post in a public general discourse that you felt catharsis or joy or whatever when seeing russian soldiers die in The Bad Videos. You can feel things without telling strangers in a public space about your feelings, because in a public space, especially one with as many independent voices as "the internet", there is little to no perceived continuity to your feelings and the only thing representing you is the way you are saying you feel right now.

And on the flip side I have not watched any of The Bad Videos and let me tell you, it has been incredibly easy to avoid them. There's no reason to complain about them being posted as long as they are appropriately tagged

R.L. Stine posted:

R.L. Stine posted:

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

https://i.imgur.com/Kj5ppGr.mp4

grumplestiltzkin posted:

You spent 2 paragraphs making a good case for why all the "omg you monster how could you laugh at a tank getting NLAW'd" posts are off base... and then used your 3rd paragraph to (and let me know if I'm wrong here) very strongly imply that it was 100% reasonable to assume that the lol posts were made in actual pure malicious bloodlust I honestly feel like I'm misreading something.

Completely agree with paragraph 4 though, if you don't wanna see what's behind the link just don't click it, it's super simple stuff

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Hiroshima/Fire bombing of tokyo used to really bother me. Then I read about the breadth and depth of Japanese atrocities in China, atrocities against the residents of Guam, the rape of Manilla, the horrors visited upon the rest of the people of the Phillipines during the 1944 campaign, the murder of black workers on wake island, and any other number of horrific acts - such as lying about how women and children would be treated on saipan, leading to them jumping to death. Japan and the Japanese people worked very hard and very diligently to earn the lack of regard that lead to the bombs being dropped. I'm no longer bothered.

Not everyone deserves your empathy. Who gives a gently caress about soldiers that got blown up in their tanks/brakytared. At this point they all know what they're doing and what they're participating in. They can shoot their officers and camp on the roadside if they don't want to be complicit.

The world isn't a mental health support group and humans are just animals. Violence is part of our reality, especially the male human reality, and sometimes it's ok to celebrate it. Most of us have a really good limiter on when it's acceptable. If you feel good to see burning Russian tanks, and you aren't normally a violent person, it's because the people in those tanks are associated with something that flipped that switch. You don't have to justify feeling like they deserved it, because feeling that way/severing empathy is a normal human reaction.