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Surely if they're going to the bother they can get blair in the dock too.
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Private Speech posted:Former PMs back Nuremberg-style trial for Putin: Gordon Brown and Sir John Major join calls for an international tribunal to investigate Russia. I mean yeah, clearly waging a war of aggression is a war crime. But man, loving Gordon Brown, who served under Tony Blair for the entirety of Blair's premiership, that's some brass balls.
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Mar 19, 2022 19:57
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OwlFancier posted:Surely if they're going to the bother they can get blair in the dock too. tweeting it at alistair cambell is always a giggle
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Mar 19, 2022 20:13
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What the hell is wrong with your PM https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/mar/19/pms-comparison-of-ukraine-resistance-to-uk-brexit-vote-criticised-as-crass
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Mar 19, 2022 22:32
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The list is far longer than drive-by poo poo-posting deserves.
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Mar 19, 2022 22:34
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you can tell it's someone who doesn't usually post in here when they find news of Boris being a poo poo oval office surprising
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Mar 19, 2022 22:36
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Cimber posted:What the hell is wrong with your PM He's a oval office.
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Mar 19, 2022 22:44
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WhatEvil posted:He's a oval office. A loving oval office? A loving oval office.
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Mar 19, 2022 22:49
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Cimber posted:What the hell is wrong with your PM Trump/Farage: [stupid poo poo] Libs: Wow I can't believe the orange cheeto/weirdo fish man said [stupid poo poo], omg can you believe [stupid poo poo] Voter Base: Actually I like [stupid poo poo] Within a week all anyone will remember is that Johnson said something stupid and controversial (again, what a scamp) and the Brexit base will have a vague sense of the good fight being fought. Even the people the Guardian quoted are doing his work for him, nobody who cares to notice is going to give a poo poo what Lord Gimbal Kimble-Pinball or some retired EU personalities have to say about anything, and it's not like they could be bothered to ask any genpop (in Britain or EU or Ukraine or anywhere else) how they felt, so it'll come off as Boris irking the elites again (please ignore that Boris is an elite).
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Mar 19, 2022 23:08
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whose talkin poo poo about are Boris?
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Mar 19, 2022 23:26
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Does a brexit base still even exist? I just imagine that 90% of the country hear those comments and just think 'what a oval office' and get on with their lives, and the other ten percent are 'don't know'.
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Mar 20, 2022 00:09
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The Perfect Element posted:Does a brexit base still even exist? I just imagine that 90% of the country hear those comments and just think 'what a oval office' and get on with their lives, and the other ten percent are 'don't know'. Nah they're still out there, and always will be. Anything good that happens for the rest of their lives will be down to Brexit and all the bad (like their bills quadrupling every year, their parents dying because they can't afford healthcare, their pensions evaporating etc) will be down to the EU standing in the way of Brexit dividends.
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Mar 20, 2022 00:22
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The Perfect Element posted:Does a brexit base still even exist? e: ^^^ Everything bad is now also going to be Covid and also a bit Russia (not their money, but 'bad russia') by what BoJo seems to be positioning. Brexit/Britain/Boris good, Brussels/Biothreats/Bolsheviks bad. Bip bop.
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Mar 20, 2022 00:33
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Guavanaut posted:Brexit/Britain/Boris good, Brussels/Biothreats/Bolsheviks bad. Bip bop. Bung a bob for Big Ben bongs Is this what the Barbarism we got instead of socialism entails? Just the classical sense of unintelligible people going bar bar bar bar bar
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Mar 20, 2022 00:45
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That and the occasional column from the spiked/unherd/taki zone saying "did you know that the woke have said that 'bar bar bar bar black sheep' is a racism now."
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Mar 20, 2022 00:49
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https://twitter.com/fcheckchina/status/1496157850825068548 This is the dumbest Twitter interaction I've seen in a loving while.
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Mar 20, 2022 03:49
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Cimber posted:What the hell is wrong with your PM He's an evil oval office, a spineless, selfish, vicious idiot. He has a lack of empathy that approaches psychopathy, he's greedy, he's conceited, he's spoiled. He's intensely stupid but overeducated and he thinks that's the same thing as being clever. He's racist and sexist. He's a deadbeat father who will not acknowledge all of his children. He can neither lead nor follow, he can neither plan nor improvise. He's two hundred pounds of blancmange that walks like a man.
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HopperUK posted:He's an evil oval office, a spineless, selfish, vicious idiot. He has a lack of empathy that approaches psychopathy, he's greedy, he's conceited, he's spoiled. He's intensely stupid but overeducated and he thinks that's the same thing as being clever. He's racist and sexist. He's a deadbeat father who will not acknowledge all of his children. He can neither lead nor follow, he can neither plan nor improvise. He's two hundred pounds of blancmange that walks like a man. Ahhh, that's the good stuff. Massive slam on blancmange out of nowhere. Which does bring up a point that it's really tough to describe tories: I mean even calling them worms is an insult to the humble, hardworking and useful earthworm. 
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Mar 20, 2022 08:50
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Cordyceps fungus springs to mind.
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HopperUK posted:He's an evil oval office, a spineless, selfish, vicious idiot. He has a lack of empathy that approaches psychopathy, he's greedy, he's conceited, he's spoiled. He's intensely stupid but overeducated and he thinks that's the same thing as being clever. He's racist and sexist. He's a deadbeat father who will not acknowledge all of his children. He can neither lead nor follow, he can neither plan nor improvise. He's two hundred pounds of blancmange that walks like a man. And I think it should be pointed out that those are his GOOD points...
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Mar 20, 2022 10:14
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HopperUK posted:He's a deadbeat father who will not acknowledge all of his children. I'm sure he'd acknowledge more of his kids if he knew who they were.
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fuctifino posted:And I think it should be pointed out that those are his GOOD points...
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Real inflation Iceland (the shop) trip report: Cleaned out my freezer yesterday and went up to Iceland to restock today. 1kg diced chicken WAS (before Xmas) £5 now £6 - inflation 20% 475g x2 lean minced beef WAS £5 now £5.50 - 18 months ago this was 500g x 2 for £5. Inflation approx 16% Only the 900g of mixed veg still £1. (Iceland have pledged to keep this price to the end of 2022 apparently - also a couple of years ago, these £1 bags had 1kg in them). Lots of other things that cost under £1 eg was 59p now 65p. Was 65p now 79p etc. Was 39p now 45p etc. 10-20% inflation on these type of things. (Same story in Home Bargains). Also noticed in Waitrose yesterday: baby milk powder (Cow & Gate first) now £9.50 per 800g tub. Before xmas it was £9. About 12 months ago it was £8.50. And I'm sure there used to be 900g in a tub. I believe there is some price control on baby milk powder. I'm not sure how long a tub is supposed to last and obviously depends on the age of the sprog. So real inflation on day-to-day groceries stuff is 10-20%.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:36
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There's inflation as dictated by the bank of England, and then there's shops looking at prices going up anyway and thinking they'll nudge them up a little extra, as a treat.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:48
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Bobby Deluxe posted:There's inflation as dictated by the bank of England, and then there's shops looking at prices going up anyway and thinking they'll nudge them up a little extra, as a treat. That's not how inflation works, it's based on surveys. Though the composition of it is meant to represent the average person (i.e. "middle class" at least as the term is popularly understood) spending.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:52
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Real inflation Iceland (the shop) trip report: That Jack blogger did a similar analysis recently, it got a lot of traction, then the supermarket chain dropped their prices in response... starting with Jack's local. I wonder if the rest of the country caught up or they did just change that one shop's prices to placate the influential blogger.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:53
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They have just adjusted the list of items to include more low cost items after Jack Monroe managed to highlight how inflation is worse for the poor. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60140858
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Bobby Deluxe posted:There's inflation as dictated by the bank of England The Bank of England sets base interest rates, in an attempt to keep inflation within a certain band laid out as a target by the government. This is not the 1970s (and/or the Soviet Union), they aren't trying to explicitly set wages and prices.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:56
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feedmegin posted:The Bank of England sets base interest rates, in an attempt to keep inflation within a certain band laid out as a target by the government. This is not the 1970s (and/or the Soviet Union), they aren't trying to explicitly set wages and prices.
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Mar 20, 2022 15:02
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Pablo Bluth posted:They have just adjusted the list of items to include more low cost items after Jack Monroe managed to highlight how inflation is worse for the poor. That just means they will be sampling both low-cost as well as mid-range and high-range items (going by their example, a 30p increase on a 65p pasta is a lot more significant than a 30p increase on 1.8£ pasta); while that's definitely an improvement it doesn't mean that the composition of the inflation basket represents spending by the average feckless poor.
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Mar 20, 2022 15:02
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feedmegin posted:The Bank of England sets base interest rates, in an attempt to keep inflation within a certain band laid out as a target by the government. This is not the 1970s (and/or the Soviet Union), they aren't trying to explicitly set wages and prices. Like I am specifically saying this is the companies doing this to profit off the current shitshow, and susprise surprise it's the people least able to bear the brunt who are getting hosed hardest.
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Mar 20, 2022 15:04
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Its loving crackpot that inflation doesn't include the entire economy including assets like shares and property. It's been insane since 2008 and the slightest bit of nerves sees cash flooding out of those and into stuff that affects people. QE was criminal
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Mar 20, 2022 15:17
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She still is.
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Mar 20, 2022 15:24
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Pablo Bluth posted:One thing that has changed is so many people now are on fixed rate mortgages and I've seen suggestions that BoE rate rises might now be a less effective tool. It's all well & good saying that raising interest will discourage people from spending, but it's not like that's gonna make a blind bit of difference when nobody's got any loving money left after buying basic essentials
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Marmaduke! posted:That Jack blogger did a similar analysis recently, it got a lot of traction, then the supermarket chain dropped their prices in response... starting with Jack's local. I wonder if the rest of the country caught up or they did just change that one shop's prices to placate the influential blogger. I think it was Aldi and they reintroduced a host of cheap basics countrywide. I don’t often give credit to supermarkets but it’s warranted in this case. The question of course is why those ranges were stopped/greatly reduced in the first place.
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Guavanaut posted:She still is. Lol
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Borrovan posted:I'm not an econologist but my understanding is that, whilst fiscal policy is an effective way of managing demand-pull inflation like we had in the '70s by influencing consumer behaviour, it's pretty toothless for addressing cost-push inflation, like what we have now We've also had absolutely rock bottom interest rates for years and years now, especially since the 2008 crisis, to encourage people to go out and spend all their money and keep the economy tottering on its feet. Which has been going on long enough now that I suspect anyone under the age of about 50 isn't going to even think about putting money in their savings accounts even if the interest rates go up a little.
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it's been the case since the 1950s at least that generics/no-frills/store brands are expanded when cost of living surges, and then are trimmed back when cost of living falls again and people substitute back to label brands (or e.g. organic/fairtrade/what have you) this said, oil prices are still lower than the heady days of... the early 2010s. So forecasts of decadal stagflation may be unwarranted One suspects that a fair amount of the cost increase is related to supply chain issues and a fair bit of that may be winter storms. Longer-term issues like Brexit truck inspection queues, Russia, and depleted inventories/storage space from two years of Covid etc. can't be helping either, but those storms were pretty bad!
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feedmegin posted:We've also had absolutely rock bottom interest rates for years and years now, especially since the 2008 crisis, to encourage people to go out and spend all their money and keep the economy tottering on its feet. Which has been going on long enough now that I suspect anyone under the age of about 50 isn't going to even think about putting money in their savings accounts even if the interest rates go up a little. I'm old enough to remember mortgage interest rates of 15%+ (1990 - again, under a tory government). When I went abroad in 2007, interest rates on a normal, everyday savings account were 5.5-6% and interest contributed a not insignificant chunk of monthly income. Now, I laugh haha at the paltry 0.01% or whatever it is. If you have any savings you can tie up for a year or more, check out sharia savings accounts which are somewhat better than non-sharia savings (but only fixing for a year because of the way interest rates are going) both in terms of 'return' (they use a profit return rather than interest) but also tend to be more socio/eco-friendly minded. Eg Gatehouse Bank if you have £1k. (the easy access accounts are currently 'under review' so not available just now.)
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On the whole price increase stuff, is it likely those lower price chains need to put stuff up higher because at a certain point their logistical costs are going to be the same as a place like waitrose? Fuel, rent, utilities and storage costs for example? But while the more expensive shops can get away by only making a small increase in their high margin products, the likes of Fafmfoods can't because their margins are a lot thinner due to the low product pricing?
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