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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

oh cool so we're gonna do something to support the victims right

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Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
an interesting thing. russian music video in the style of early 2000s nu-rock about why yeltsin was an rear end in a top hat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKyM3bofM8M

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

sexpig by night posted:

oh cool so we're gonna do something to support the victims right

Yeah the TikTok and Instagram influencers will start posting #standwithrohingya any day now.

I'm sure it will happen.

Lol.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

an interesting thing. russian music video in the style of early 2000s nu-rock about why yeltsin was an rear end in a top hat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKyM3bofM8M

They're on spotify and they pretty much seem like someone trying to copy Sabaton, or do straight covers of Sabaton in russian.

Edit: For example, apparently they have a song about Khalkhin Gol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSiRmPlFnmw

Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 13:08 on Mar 21, 2022

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Dreddout posted:

Then why'd the soviets turn Manchuria over to the cpc and not the kmt?

They gave most of Manchuria to the KMT but starting in late 1945 they started giving cover to the CPC to prevent them from being completely wiped out

Frosted Flake posted:

Didn’t the KMT start the Chinese Civil War by killing Communists in Shanghai out of the blue?

Yes, CKS had an irrational hatred of the Communists to the extent of prioritizing wiping them out over beating back the Japanese invaders, while the most communist-friendly left faction of the Nationalists was under Wang Jingwei, who was the most notorious hanjian, the Chinese Quisling of WWII, the head of the Japanese puppet Nationalist government

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Mandoric posted:

By the end of the civil war, both tendencies were virulently anticommunist; it was a debate between autarkhy and an international crusade in accomplishing this. And of course the US played both sides, friendly at the very least with ranking officers like Sun Li-jen, the VMI-trained "Rommel of the East" who was the prime target of political controls on the RoC military, but also willing to overlook Ching-kuo's purge of him for alleged participation in a CIA-backed coup plot in 1955 as it was part of an overall crackdown on disloyalty.

What do you know of Li Jishen? It sounds like he was more conciliatory towards the CPC, maybe if he had replaced CKS somehow he would've been able to reconcile the two.

Also real bummer that Feng Yuxiang died in a mysterious ship fire.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Meanwhile in Afghanistan

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Fuligin posted:

literally just finished reading this and it made me want to scream

it's been about 12 years since I read it but my memory of it is that there was precisely one engaging and interesting section - the account of the Soviet officers visiting the encircled Nazis to settle terms of surrender for them - and the rest was either blatantly ideological poo poo determined to excuse the Germans of all wrongdoing or impossible-to-parse lists of division numbers and where they moved to

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I especially "liked" the long digression about the dude that drew a Virgin Mary within the kessel

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

StashAugustine posted:

hey good post as usual, just wanted to ask who this guy was

Vlado Zečević. In his theology student days, he wrote a lot about socialism and christianity, and pissed off a bunch of teachers by quoting Marx at them.

Until the war, he was more of a social democrat in the Agrarian Party and a peasant equivalent of a syndicalist (the zadrugas, basically groups of peasants who worked their own land, landless peasants, and even some of the poorer 'kulak' types voluntarily collectivizing to resist the big land owners and banks), and a grudging participant in the Democratic Party's liberal opposition coalition shortly before the war. As a priest, he was generally loved by his parish and beyond because of his work to disrupt corruption amongst the clergy, and oversaw the construction of several new churches and ossuaries (Serbia lost over half of its adult male population in WW1. There were *a lot* of scattered, unburied bones all over the place). He was frequently harrassed by the police because of his supportive attitude towards the people's doctors (privately practitioning medical professionals, almost all of them secretly members of the communist party, who would fleece rich customers and use that money to provide free medical treatment to those who couldn't otherwise receive any - they were generally kept safe prewar by fears of popular retaliation against anyone who does them harm, and were heavily targeted by all the various fascists when the war started) which garnered a positive attitude towards him among the communists.

Seing the betrayal as it happened in real time while under fire was what finally fully pushed him over to fully join the communist party, and he was uniquely effective in disrupting anticommunist propaganda among the Serbian peasantry.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1505884430996578312?s=20&t=E2yrEkOezgvN7hsXzI-ikA

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

https://twitter.com/AndyBxxx/status/1505838137217409024?s=20&t=MacYVUTYPaX1yo8sYv532Q

Plane went down in a straight nosedive wtf

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique


China Eastern, the country’s largest domestic carrier, said it was grounding all Boeing 737-800 aircraft while an investigation is carried out. Shares in the U.S. aerospace giant were down Monday, with memories still fresh of the 737 Max disasters of 2018 and 2019, which exposed major problems at Boeing and saw aircraft grounded across the world as executives were dragged before Congress.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


at least they died quick i guess. never seen a plane crash like that

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
My wife works for a large Chinese company and this morning she showed an email one of her colleagues in the UK got.

It was basically: “your offer was much better but we’re recently under strict instructions not to do any business with Russian or Chinese companies unless it’s literally impossible to get the same products/services anywhere else in the world”

This is a very large UK company.

Westerners are losing their minds as we speak.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/elinaribakova/status/1505650178895888390

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Frosted Flake posted:

China Eastern, the country’s largest domestic carrier, said it was grounding all Boeing 737-800 aircraft while an investigation is carried out. Shares in the U.S. aerospace giant were down Monday, with memories still fresh of the 737 Max disasters of 2018 and 2019, which exposed major problems at Boeing and saw aircraft grounded across the world as executives were dragged before Congress.

The person who unilaterally grounded the 737 Max in the US was Donald Trump.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1505793832176263171

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Goon my dad, can you ride the train and report back.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!

is there an aviation thread anywhere on SA and have they explained what could cause this

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



indigi posted:

is there an aviation thread anywhere on SA and have they explained what could cause this

Goon already posted it was a Boeing

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

indigi posted:

is there an aviation thread anywhere on SA and have they explained what could cause this

it could be another gigantic boeing fuckup or suicide-by-plane. i don't think there are any other possibilities where the plane would ever do that, it took less than 3 minutes to go from cruise altitude to ground

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

bedpan posted:

The person who unilaterally grounded the 737 Max in the US was Donald Trump.

its why i voted for him

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

indigi posted:

is there an aviation thread anywhere on SA and have they explained what could cause this

there’s like 3 or 4 threads and there are actually a ton of options.

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003

Maximo Roboto posted:

What do you know of Li Jishen? It sounds like he was more conciliatory towards the CPC, maybe if he had replaced CKS somehow he would've been able to reconcile the two.

Also real bummer that Feng Yuxiang died in a mysterious ship fire.

Just the basics, but the basics seem to tell the whole story about how much weight "somehow" bears there--the RCCK was the reconciliation, and what KMT members were willing to take it had plenty of opportunity to. Assuming that the Taipei government was entirely a personal loyalty thing that could've been broken if leadership had a different opinion, rather than a result of the majority KMT faction's politics, is too great-man, especially in the context of CCK's temporary sidelining when his policies drifted from that consensus.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!

hobbesmaster posted:

there’s like 3 or 4 threads and there are actually a ton of options.

oh ok. can you link the best one please

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ai one is probably best for general chat

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3276654&perpage=40&pagenumber=1&noseen=1

there’s an ask tell thread for actual pilots talking shop and there’s a tfr thread ostensibly about the Cold War but usually more general military aviation and then GiP has threads for services that have aviation.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
just from the video it seems like something went horribly wrong with the horizontal control surfaces

Gorman Thomas
Jul 24, 2007

hobbesmaster posted:

ai one is probably best for general chat

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3276654&perpage=40&pagenumber=1&noseen=1

there’s an ask tell thread for actual pilots talking shop and there’s a tfr thread ostensibly about the Cold War but usually more general military aviation and then GiP has threads for services that have aviation.

The AI thread posters are already convinced that China isn't going to play ball with Boeing or the NTSB lol. Which is weird because China Southern is perfectly happy to send a3xx flight data to me for troubleshooting. In my experience, American operators are much more strict with data custody.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/Yaqiu/status/1505921203348942848

China watchers are such ghouls.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



CENSORSHIP IS IMMINENT

(China has already said they plan to ground the entire boing fleet to investigate them and boings stock is already feeling heat from the announcement)

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Mandoric posted:

Just the basics, but the basics seem to tell the whole story about how much weight "somehow" bears there--the RCCK was the reconciliation, and what KMT members were willing to take it had plenty of opportunity to. Assuming that the Taipei government was entirely a personal loyalty thing that could've been broken if leadership had a different opinion, rather than a result of the majority KMT faction's politics, is too great-man, especially in the context of CCK's temporary sidelining when his policies drifted from that consensus.

I'm talking more about what if Chiang was out of the picture earlier on, like he is accidentally killed in the Xi'an Incident and someone like Li or Wang Jingwei (or more likely, Zhang Xueliang or Yang Hucheng) could've succeeded him, but I guess that could have changed the war entirely and it's impossible to say how the KMT would have emerged afterwards. All four figures I just mentioned had more favorable views of the communists than CKS did, very low bar I know, and both Li and Wang were involved in anti-Chiang uprisings in that time period (it was before the latter turned hanjian).

And yeah I guess Feng was a pretty marginal character by the time of WWII.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


watch Xi censor a loving post

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Maximo Roboto posted:

I'm talking more about what if Chiang was out of the picture earlier on, like he is accidentally killed in the Xi'an Incident and someone like Li or Wang Jingwei (or more likely, Zhang Xueliang or Yang Hucheng) could've succeeded him, but I guess that could have changed the war entirely and it's impossible to say how the KMT would have emerged afterwards. All four figures I just mentioned had more favorable views of the communists than CKS did, very low bar I know, and both Li and Wang were involved in anti-Chiang uprisings in that time period (it was before the latter turned hanjian).

And yeah I guess Feng was a pretty marginal character by the time of WWII.

Comedy option for leader of the military government if Chiang gets arrested/killed is Alexander von Falkenhausen

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005


:sickos:

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
i'm sure china will not want to investigate a foreign made plane being responsible for the death of 133 of its citizens

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


I’m sorry this happened, not only because of the deaths but because of the inevitable legislative response social media backlash

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

bedpan posted:

Comedy option for leader of the military government if Chiang gets arrested/killed is Alexander von Falkenhausen

This is what HOI IV modders are afraid to make

Bonus: Joseph Stilwell really hate Chiang and wanted to replace him and wrote a poem about it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stilwell#Recall_from_China

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

i have a question about modern japanese cultural history how does the stereotype of salarymen overworking themselves to death get started

as far as i can tell everyone says it starts in the sixties but the only contemporary reference to this i can find seems to be in communist comic books of all things and even as late as 1987 the average workweek is only 46 hours which is a lot but not exactly i only get to see my kids for one hour a week levels of extreme

i know that death by overwork is a real thing im just trying to figure out how much of it has been consistent over the years to the point you can really call it quintessentially japanese and how much of it is racistly generalizing completely different eras and sections of modern japans economy

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