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we decided to move on from the fake stats and into the very real science of measuring "agility" on a scale of one to seven.
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Budiansky also was the dude responsible for the stats on the back of G1 Transformers boxes, wasn’t he?
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Splint Chesthair posted:Budiansky also was the dude responsible for the stats on the back of G1 Transformers boxes, wasn’t he? He was. He mentions that in the article.
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glitchwraith posted:He was. He mentions that in the article. Thanks, I hadn’t read the article yet. Should have done that first.
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Splint Chesthair posted:Thanks, I hadn’t read the article yet. Should have done that first. No worries. I mentioned it only because that's the only reason I knew you where correct.
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Is the Phoenix still Thor's mother or did everyone immediately ignore that?
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Splint Chesthair posted:Budiansky also was the dude responsible for the stats on the back of G1 Transformers boxes, wasn’t he? He helped create a very large percentage of the G1 roster and wrote the comics for it's first couple years too, he's always been a little bemused at the ongoing popularity of Transformers and how it's fandom views him cause for him it was just a job
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Adnor posted:Is the Phoenix still Thor's mother or did everyone immediately ignore that? It's a Thing in Avengers as of last week. E: I'm not sure anyone other than Aaron cares about it though.
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rantmo posted:
Yeah, Cates just referenced him being Gaea's son recently with his rarely used Earth powers.
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that was his role during empyre, which was 2020. the phoenix stuff came out of nowhere and will be either ignored or retconned as soon as anyone other than aaron decides to do anything with thor's mom again.
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It's kinda silly how hard Aaron is trying to force the concept in his book, like he absolutely knows just how unwanted and ultimately forgettable it is and so just tries all the harder to constantly ram it in no prep no lube no foreplay. The latest issue literally has a subplot where Thor is gonna, like, die unless he just accepts the super real no-take-backs turbo-truth that the Phoenix is his mother, which he just keeps stubbornly fighting against until he finally caves in and lets the Phoenix power into his heart or something.
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If a mod wants me to delete this I will, but in case anyone hasn’t seen it here’s Al Ewing’s current thread on Twitter where he talks about gender, identity and more. Worth a read: https://twitter.com/al_ewing/status/1506291584584794124?s=21
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Nilbop posted:If a mod wants me to delete this I will, but in case anyone hasn’t seen it here’s Al Ewing’s current thread on Twitter where he talks about gender, identity and more. Worth a read: https://twitter.com/al_ewing/status/1506291584584794124?s=21 What a goddamned legend. As if I wasn't already a fan of the man.
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Interesting that he's another awesome comic writer who grew up in the UK during that period. Ellis wrote a bit in Planetary about it and I think Morrison has probably talked about it as well.
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Harold Fjord posted:Interesting that he's another awesome comic writer who grew up in the UK during that period. Ellis wrote a bit in Planetary about it and I think Morrison has probably talked about it as well.
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A number of my older relatives grew up under Section 28 and I can confirm it was a dreadful time to be LGBTQ+. It was deeply isolating and led to a lot of arrested development for kids, teens, and even adults who weren't sure who they were because they had no LGBTQ+ representation in their lives. 
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glitchwraith posted:The quotes a bit misleading out of context. It's referring to the win/loss percentage that was put on the cards before they began putting the power rankings, which where done mainly to appease the baseball card company helping produce the cards. When they switched to power rankings, they put in more work, starting with the guidebooks Gruenwald had written, and talking to the comic editors for newer characters. To this day I occasionally scoff at Cap doing something and think "peak human my rear end" because of those.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:To this day I occasionally scoff at Cap doing something and think "peak human my rear end" because of those. Didn't he get a significant strength boost sometime after the Ultimate line and the MCU films? I know both of those adaptations featured him doing blatantly super human feats of strength, so it wouldn't surprise me if that then got depicted in the 616 canon. To my knowledge the classic comics didn't have him doing anything too crazy, outside of impossible shield throws.
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There was a brief period in the 70s when Cap was superhumanly strong. I think it was an unintended reaction to some antidote he needed to take. Ultimate Cap famously was able to jump out of an airplane without needing a parachute, which is something I can’t say I’ve ever seen 616 Cap do.
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I want to say 616 Cap has jumped out of lower flying planes and broken his fall by landing on his shield but I couldn't cite a specific instance.
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616 Cap did that in the post 9/11 series.
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Rhyno posted:616 Cap did that in the post 9/11 series. That's the one where he revealed his identity, right? A surprisingly thoughtful series when it would have been very easy to just turn 616 Cap into Ultimate Cap given the general national sentiment at the time.
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glitchwraith posted:Didn't he get a significant strength boost sometime after the Ultimate line and the MCU films? I know both of those adaptations featured him doing blatantly super human feats of strength, so it wouldn't surprise me if that then got depicted in the 616 canon. To my knowledge the classic comics didn't have him doing anything too crazy, outside of impossible shield throws. Honestly 'peak human performance' has always been super variable in what it means, going from essentially being able to do gold medal level athletics all at once to 'eh, superhuman I guess.' Cap's big thing was always (at least I was under the impression it was) that the serum means he doesn't have a build up of lactic acid in his muscles so he doesn't get tired. Somebody with a basic knowledge of biology could tell me why this is wrong but eh, it works for comics.
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Splint Chesthair posted:Ultimate Cap famously was able to jump out of an airplane without needing a parachute, which is something I can’t say I’ve ever seen 616 Cap do. He does that into water in Winter Soldier which I feel should still count
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rantmo posted:I want to say 616 Cap has jumped out of lower flying planes and broken his fall by landing on his shield but I couldn't cite a specific instance. I can help you out. Just read an issue the other day: Captain America #343 (Jul. 88) when he was The Captain.
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Since the Ridley series post 9/11 they've been putting a lot more emphasis on the Super aspect of Super Soldier. Peak human wasn't enough, he's now more in line with the MCU version.
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 (From Secret Wars #4) Has Hickman just always been obsessed about capes?
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Hasn't most of the Mister Sinister Loves Capes stuff been from either Kieron Gillen's revamp of the character (which admittedly Hickman has said he loved and worked into his X-Men pitch) or from Zeb Wells in Hellions? Which is to say, perhaps everyone is obsessed with capes.
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It's a shame we'll never get to hear Jon Hamm expound on his desire to take someone's cape
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Edge & Christian posted:Hasn't most of the Mister Sinister Loves Capes stuff been from either Kieron Gillen's revamp of the character (which admittedly Hickman has said he loved and worked into his X-Men pitch) or from Zeb Wells in Hellions? That and almost every single artist's depiction of him. Like, even if he doesn't enunciate it, tell me this is a picture of a man that doesn't have strong opinions on capes 
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Skwirl posted:That and almost every single artist's depiction of him. Like, even if he doesn't enunciate it, tell me this is a picture of a man that doesn't have strong opinions on capes He loves capes, he loves fringes, he loves fringe capes.
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Skwirl posted:That and almost every single artist's depiction of him. Like, even if he doesn't enunciate it, tell me this is a picture of a man that doesn't have strong opinions on capes There’s no way this isn’t from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Update ‘89.
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I didn't really check out Giellen's revamp of Sinister's backstory, is the Sinister who is sitting on the Krakoan council the same version of Essex that ran the Marauders and stalked Cyclops for most of his life?
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OnimaruXLR posted:I didn't really check out Giellen's revamp of Sinister's backstory, is the Sinister who is sitting on the Krakoan council the same version of Essex that ran the Marauders and stalked Cyclops for most of his life? Technically yes, just his characterization has changed a bunch. Still obsessed with mutant genetics though.
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GPTribefan posted:There’s no way this isn’t from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Update ‘89. Pretty sure it is. In fact, I think that's the very first image of Sinister I'd ever seen
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I am vaguely irritated that Marvel Unlimited does not, in fact, have the Official Handbook or the '89 update.
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Dawgstar posted:I am vaguely irritated that Marvel Unlimited does not, in fact, have the Official Handbook or the '89 update. To be frank the fact that they don't have literally every comic they've ever published that wouldn't have rights issues up on there is an absolute joke considering the service has been around for about a decade now
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Skwirl posted:That and almost every single artist's depiction of him. Like, even if he doesn't enunciate it, tell me this is a picture of a man that doesn't have strong opinions on capes This man clearly hates capes. I know this because he put his own cape through a paper shredder to make a point.
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GPTribefan posted:There’s no way this isn’t from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Update ‘89. It is, but oddly its a cleaned up crop of him from the cover of issue #5 rather than an image from his actual profile. It's a really great cover with a motley crew of characters I like. You've got Sinister, Nanny, Orphan Maker, Meggan and Aunt May all hanging out together, and then you also have Harry Osborn, Sabretooth, and short-lived Steve Gerber character Poison. The issue also has one of the handful of clear shots of Walter Simonson's original Orphan Maker design where he has the proportions of a toddler and looks really freaky and unusual. I always thought it was a shame that his design quickly got flattened into a fairly generic cyborg guy.
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