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Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

hooman posted:

SA Libs' woke ideology such as uhhh.... ????

That talking point usually gets used by weird columnists who are often based in the eastern seaboard to refer to the SA Libs either:
- introducing euthanasia legislation
- getting rid of some archaic anti-abortion law
- continuing the existing project of building renewable energy infrastructure and the transmission lines to export it interstate
- ending an annual car race

Only the last one even came up during the election campaign, and it was barely mentioned. The first three were bipartisan anyway

I think there are minor some ideological differences between the SA Libs and their national/interstate counterparts, which makes them a little less conservative sometimes but I think they’re actually just doing that to play to a portion of their base here, which is basically the opposite argument to people who think that costed them the election

The election was almost entirely about health. The only other thing that mattered was the lack of third parties running


E: beaten by other posters for some of this

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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Don't try to look for specifics. It's just easier to blame things on "the woke agenda" as a vague meaningless phrase that gets all the right-wingers riled up.

It also means it's not their fault that they lost. It's the fault of the filthy pinko commie leftists, but this time they are coming from within!

The best option is ScoMo hears, and takes heed, and pivots hard right and hard fundie. Completely missing the point and completely misreading the room, (as per usual). Leading to his sound defeat, (which he will blame someone else for.)

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.
the sa libs are i think easily the least successful of any major party of any state in the last 50 years, consumed by infighting & factional issues to a degree beyond even the other state liberal parties. the moderate/conservative split seems to be particularly strong there, with rival political dynasties for a long time.

another good crikey piece on the kitching situation

https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/03/22/kimberley-kitching-truth-press-gallery-wont-talk-about/

there's another rundle piece but it's mostly just a meandering account of the funeral & descends into rundle's worst crank territories so i'm not going to link it

lih fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Mar 22, 2022

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


You love to see it (the gaps been decreasing as pre-polls are counted so Marshall is almost certainly going to win his seat back, but still).

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Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
The number of votes counted and displayed on the AEC website from the SA election has increased from 54% on Saturday to a staggering 55% today

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

Also, all this woke talk reminded me of Godwin's second law.

https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

Seemlar
Jun 18, 2002

lih posted:

marshall clearly ran a moderate liberal government so it's no surprise that the diagnosis from the right of the libs is "being too moderate cost marshall the election" because that's what most suits their agenda, no matter how disconnected from reality

think the main things that are considerered proof of marshall's woke degeneracy are:
-passed abortion decriminalisation (the greens introduced a bill in the upper house & marshall gave the libs a conscience vote on it instead of blocking it)
-supported renewable energy in government after opposing it when in opposition
-was not an anti-lockdown lunatic
-passed euthanasia laws (introduced by a labor mp and marshall again gave a conscience vote instead of blocking it)

The only mildly eyebrowing raising thing is the dumb comment about the SA Liberals being woke came from a NSW MP, and that's a moderate Liberal government that is basically identical on all those things

Of course, it was one of the most egregiously dogshit NSW MPs there is, so Godwin's analysis there holds true

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Does this explain the C-Spam war in Ukraine thread?

It's not Putin's fault for all the loss of life, it's the Ukrainians' for insisting on fighting :pseudo:

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

Senor Tron posted:

You love to see it (the gaps been decreasing as pre-polls are counted so Marshall is almost certainly going to win his seat back, but still).



Honestly he'd probably prefer to lose it at this rate.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



lih posted:

this is not the same thing as the smears and deliberate sabotage against corbyn and it's ridiculous to compare them lol

a waning faction happily sabotaging their own partys election with unanswerable attacks based on misrepresented leaked internal party processes where any defense can be cynically countered with "my* feelings say otherwise" because they would rather lose an election and regain control of the party than win but have the wrong faction calling the shots. what do you disagree with

*dead ladys feelings in this case so even less impeachable

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Mum got a robocall from Palmer's group tonight. She didn't say if it was him or Craig just "That party with the fat guy"

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

a waning faction happily sabotaging their own partys election with unanswerable attacks based on misrepresented leaked internal party processes where any defense can be cynically countered with "my* feelings say otherwise" because they would rather lose an election and regain control of the party than win but have the wrong faction calling the shots. what do you disagree with

*dead ladys feelings in this case so even less impeachable
it's just nowhere near the same level of sabotage or character assassination and is not going to have anything close to the same impact. it's typical aus labor factional stuff and very stupid but not the sort of scorched earth campaign waged by the uk labour right

lih fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Mar 22, 2022

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

kirbysuperstar posted:

Mum got a robocall from Palmer's group tonight. She didn't say if it was him or Craig just "That party with the fat guy"

I would argue it doesnt even rule out the 2 major parties but albo is looking pretty fit.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

kirbysuperstar posted:

Mum got a robocall from Palmer's group tonight. She didn't say if it was him or Craig just "That party with the fat guy"

Did you ask if she's seen the pornhub ad as well?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Animal Friend posted:

Did you ask if she's seen the pornhub ad as well?

Oh yeah I should bring that up tomorrow, that'll be funny

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
The ad where Clive shouts out "FREEDOM" over and over again but instead he's shouting "DO NOT CUM" over and over again.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
QLD PIGS in SPACE

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...or-their-taking

JB died in Acacia prison just days after his mother reportedly called the jail to warn that he was suicidal. Authorities said he was found unresponsive in his cell, and attempts to revive him were unsuccessful. An advocate for the family said JB “called out for help” and had earlier told his mother he intended to kill himself. His mother warned the prison before his death.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, injured in custody, mental health / cognitive impairment.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Cartoon posted:

JB died in Acacia prison just days after his mother reportedly called the jail to warn that he was suicidal. Authorities said he was found unresponsive in his cell, and attempts to revive him were unsuccessful. An advocate for the family said JB “called out for help” and had earlier told his mother he intended to kill himself. His mother warned the prison before his death.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, injured in custody, mental health / cognitive impairment.

gonna say that i actually (for some reason) expected these to end some time ago, and the fact that you always seem to have more says a lot about the state of our country

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Call it STAR COMMAND and make it's members Star Rangers.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

bell jar posted:

gonna say that i actually (for some reason) expected these to end some time ago, and the fact that you always seem to have more says a lot about the state of our country

We've got almost 200 years of Aboriginal "deaths in custody".

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Peter Dutton yelling about how some people see space as theirs for the taking and I'm assuming he's talking about himself.

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
Or overestimated cartoons ability to :justpost:

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

TheLastRoboKy posted:

Peter Dutton yelling about how some people see space as theirs for the taking and I'm assuming he's talking about himself.

he's going to stop the space boats

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

ratbag ciarg

EDIT: I was trying to work out what happened to Ciarg and I realised the last time Xylo posted was 2015, drat we're old now.

hooman fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Mar 22, 2022

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Comstar posted:

Call it STAR COMMAND and make it's members Star Rangers.

Space Rangers, thank you.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Albo in "trying to lose this election" shock

https://twitter.com/shanebazzi/status/1506402999933214721

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

My Twitter feed full of politically obsessed lefties is confused about the "men have babies" thing. Such a niche right-wing fixation that it doesn't even register with them as a trans issue, so I can't imagine what the average Tele reader makes of it.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

freebooter posted:

My Twitter feed full of politically obsessed lefties is confused about the "men have babies" thing. Such a niche right-wing fixation that it doesn't even register with them as a trans issue, so I can't imagine what the average Tele reader makes of it.

Probably doesn't even register as a trans issue, just a confused question. It's such a milquetoast dumb-rear end idea. Quick fire interview. Let's cram as many got-ya, you'll piss off somebody somehow questions in here. Why you would agree to do it is beyond me.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

Albo not a fan of Arnie comedies.

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

I had to do a "oh it's about trans men" bit in my head. It's a very bad question and they would/should have just asked something more direct about trans people if they wanted a real opinion. The only answers I straight up don't like are the defence spending one (we just recently committed to buying a shitload of stuff Albo ffs) and the negative gearing one. Everything else was some hedge or non-answer or something that I'd want a follow-up before I formed an opinion.

Terrible to do it though.


EDIT: Oh the uranium one as well I guess. I thought it was why can't we sell uranium or something, I dunno. I think the format is designed for people to misread what is being said.

go_banana
Oct 13, 2010

bell jar posted:

Albo in "trying to lose this election" shock

The Australian electorate is to the right of you.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

The Def and NegGear answers are really just the only answers you can give politically. They're really just going for a status quo feel while not being the party everyone hates.

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Uranium question is very open ended. Use it for what, door stops?

Can we have nuclear power stations? Doesn't add up economically.

Can we do more in the nuclear processing cycle? Probably, I don't know the numbers. We could be a safe nation to have a nuclear fuel enrichment cycle, we only sell yellow cake at the moment.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

I'd like to buy some uranium and put it down Scott Morrison's jocks

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

We could probably do with another reactor or something. ANSTO got hosed up at some point in the past couple of years and doctors had ration diagnostic stuff until it got fixed.

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Amoeba102 posted:

The Def and NegGear answers are really just the only answers you can give politically. They're really just going for a status quo feel while not being the party everyone hates.

Yeah every answer had that feel. "World-changer" is impossible to be mad at directly cause it's a meaningless truism.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

"There's uranium in uranus :laugh:"

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I'm impressed he managed to come up with an answer to the captain cook question that was outside the binary tbh.

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Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Phigs posted:

Yeah every answer had that feel. "World-changer" is impossible to be mad at directly cause it's a meaningless truism.

Meaningless truism is basically Albo's entire schtick though.

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