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Guavanaut posted:I'm not sure it ever was, at least from the point in time where you have a bunch of conspiracy rags going on about "unmask the enemy, the Protestant, allied with the Jew and the Freemason against the Catholic" or its equivalent of Jesuit Vatican assassins. I mean in the immediate post-reformation period I think there's a decent argument it was. You have quite a few examples of people being burned after refusing to convert (or reconvert) to one or the other, and the people ordering the killing for no reason but religious difference - obviously it was sometimes politically pragmatic for someone to die as well but certainly not in all cases.
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Darth Walrus posted:A recent Freedom of Information request by the Canary disclosed that the Met Police strip-searched 172,000 people in the past five years, including 9,000 under 18 and 2,000 under 16. or, to put it another way, the Met strip-searched an average of 94 people a day since 2017, including five under-eighteens and one under-sixteen. Hmmmm. Starting to think these ACAB folks might have a point.
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Ballsacks. Just went to get something out of the freezer and discovered I didn't shut the door properly last time I got something out On Sunday. Everything is now room temperature an I'm going to have to chuck everything and restock it.
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ThomasPaine posted:I mean in the immediate post-reformation period I think there's a decent argument it was. You have quite a few examples of people being burned after refusing to convert (or reconvert) to one or the other, and the people ordering the killing for no reason but religious difference - obviously it was sometimes politically pragmatic for someone to die as well but certainly not in all cases. It definitely did seem to go through a phase of full [ecclesiastical Qanon noises] between the early modern and 20th century versions of sectarianism though.
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Hell yeah baby, just a Labour MP arguing for sending a British Expeditionary Force to defend the ports of Ukraine https://twitter.com/BarrySheerman/status/1506357069888249866?s=20&t=-WhMpyHCA_asc1YKbgqCyw
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Pablo Bluth posted:Ballsacks. Just went to get something out of the freezer and discovered I didn't shut the door properly last time I got something out On Sunday. Everything is now room temperature an I'm going to have to chuck everything and restock it. Can you cook it all up quick and refreeze once cooked? (Depends what it is!)
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Pablo Bluth posted:Ballsacks. Just went to get something out of the freezer and discovered I didn't shut the door properly last time I got something out On Sunday. Everything is now room temperature an I'm going to have to chuck everything and restock it. This is how you learn to shut the door. Luckily i don't have a freezer or freezer section in my fridge.
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forkboy84 posted:Hell yeah baby, just a Labour MP arguing for sending a British Expeditionary Force to defend the ports of Ukraine lol masturbatory boomer WW2 cosplay is going to get us all killed
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Can you cook it all up quick and refreeze once cooked? (Depends what it is!) On the upside, it's a chance to defrost the shelves...
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Pablo Bluth posted:, and I'll just have to eat the cost. Well, at least you'll have something to eat
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Pablo Bluth posted:The meat which is the most expensive stuff is too warm for me to trust how long it's been defrosted. I've rescued some irish soda bread and a apple crumble my mum made, which were at the back. Everything else I've chucked, and I'll just have to eat the cost. Ooof. That really sucks.
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forkboy84 posted:Hell yeah baby, just a Labour MP arguing for sending a British Expeditionary Force to defend the ports of Ukraine
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Pablo Bluth posted:Ballsacks. Just went to get something out of the freezer and discovered I didn't shut the door properly last time I got something out On Sunday. Everything is now room temperature an I'm going to have to chuck everything and restock it. That puts the time I melted part of a block of butter that was next to the fridge light after I left the door open slightly overnight to shame. Yikes, that really sucks. The positive is that after I did this once I quickly learned to double check I close the fridge & freezer doors to not do it ever again.
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forkboy84 posted:Hell yeah baby, just a Labour MP arguing for sending a British Expeditionary Force to defend the ports of Ukraine I think it is highly likely that Starmer will be petitioning to send troops to Ukraine asap https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1506118381681926144
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On the side of the russians, presumably, to help destroy that vital military infrastructure.
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US rolls back Trump-era tariffs on UK steelBBC posted:The US has agreed to ease Trump-era tariffs on UK steel and aluminium shipments, resolving an issue that had strained relations between the allies. BBC posted:The move follows earlier deals with the European Union and Japan over the controversial taxes, which were imposed by former President Donald Trump in 2018 in the name of national security. Ahh. Well, nevertheless.
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Marmaduke! posted:I think it is highly likely that Starmer will be petitioning to send troops to Ukraine asap From that pic it looks like he's already been there.
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And on the pedestal, these words appear: This is bad for Jeremy Corbyn.
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Scene 1: a turkey farm. Time: early December, every year. Turkey A: You have to vote for Christmas, mate. Turkey B: Why? Seems bad for us. The other guy says-- Turkey A: Because I'll call you antisemitic if you don't. Scene 2: (tbd)
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https://twitter.com/cymrurouge/status/1506534006736793605?t=kfR0bTB-UyRZv68ed7DKEw&s=19 Inflation at stupid levels, surely Super Sunak will save us.... https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1506399371792896007?t=YaBb3Kd-VbiLY4VKiPHS8Q&s=19 Ah.
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Only Kindness posted:Scene 1: a turkey farm. Time: early December, every year. You just made me imagine an Ardman Animation but it's kinda like Animal Farm except about Brexit, and it sucks
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Failed Imagineer posted:You just made me imagine an Ardman Animation but it's kinda like Animal Farm except about Brexit, and it sucks Chicken Run but the camp is EUROCRATS 
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Lungboy posted:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1506399371792896007?t=YaBb3Kd-VbiLY4VKiPHS8Q&s=19 Pizza-cutting-edge journalamisjism.
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Dishy sunak can fiddle MY expenses reports thirsty kunesburg
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Anyone know what happened with that council tax rebate he announced last time round? Just had my 2022/23 bill and there's nothing about a £150 deduction on it.
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I think they'll either appear as a separate rebate later in the year or they have been spaffed up the big wall of tory promises.
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jiggerypokery posted:Dishy sunak can fiddle MY expenses reports thirsty kunesburg I am smashing the report button, but nothing is happening?! Also, had a dream last night where I woke up after seeing the nuclear blast from Greenwich park which was a bit... yeah.
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josh04 posted:From that pic it looks like he's already been there. He's going to send his elite Starmtroopers to finish the job
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peanut- posted:Anyone know what happened with that council tax rebate he announced last time round? Just had my 2022/23 bill and there's nothing about a £150 deduction on it. My bill had a leaflet saying that the rebate would be sent to the account I have my direct debit set up with. Literally a cash payment for every property you own, the Tory-est possible stimulus package.
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Ms Adequate posted:I think it's a lot of genuine faithful who lived and died by said faiths, being manipulated and manuevered by a bunch of cynical overlords. Ehhhh....people tend to think this a lot, here's a good article by a historian bloke that covers it. He's talking about the Middle Ages, I know more about the mid 17th century. It's not really true, or not entirely true. Thing is it is quite possible to sincerely believe in your religion and also be a cynical bastard and also for your genuine belief in your religion to overlap with and be tempered/overridden by political concerns - and religion is a political concern here. If you say you're a Catholic in the British Isles (especially England) in the mid 17th century you are implicitly saying you are under the political influence of the Pope who is a hostile political power (you know, the guy who backed the Armada last century and in whose name Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliament - it's getting pretty close to being a Muslim and saying 'I think the UK should be a Caliphate' in the modern UK). Conversely being openly Protestant in a Catholic country hints at 'and also I would like to overthrow the social order' because, well, a lot of that happened last century. Your religion is a political statement but also usually one held in earnest belief. It's just that, well, much like today, sometimes power is more important than principles, 'Paris is worth a Mass' and all, and pre-Civil War England allying with Catholic powers against the Dutch when expedient and so on and so forth. Doesn't mean those principles don't exist at all, though. So yeah, probably some people high up (and middling) didn't really believe. Most would to one extent or another though. Someone like Edward VI, I don't think anyone would claim wasn't an actual, fervent Protestant - which has Consequences, without him we probably end up going back Catholic, which in turn has geopolitical implications.
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Guavanaut posted:Clearly a metaphor for god's own time of GMT being nuked by the daylight savings wokerati every spring for no good reason. GMT belongs in the bin, make it Summer Time forever
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OwlFancier posted:Also in a more modern context, I don't find it hard to believe that modern religious leaders simultaneously think that they are god's own chosen and also that they have every right to do whatever they want as a result. That's literally what every evangelical believes.
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sebzilla posted:make it Summer Time forever *finger curls on the monkeys paw*
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I'm not sure how it's gonna happen, but I have an annoying premonition that the UK and Ireland/EU are going to diverge on timezones, and it's gonna be a huge sectarian  issue in NI and extremely annoying for everyone on the border
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