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Discendo Vox posted:Some important context is Niall Ferguson works for the Hoover Institution. It's a) right wing and b) a haven for folks of the Bush admin. Condoleezza Rice is the current director. I hate it when people do this. If you have a beef with what the guy wrote on Bloomberg then you should say what it is. Just saying that he works for some folks that aren't popular on this forum is just an ad hom. I did sit down and read the article and FWIW, it's full of nothing talk. Just empty criticism about how the current administration isn't Harry Truman staring down the Soviets in Korea with tank in an international coalition because the Soviets couldn't retaliate with a nuke. He acknowledges that has changed and that nuclear escalation must be kept off the table....then berates Biden and friends for not doing enough and assuming all the wrong things. Ok sir, what exactly would a course of action in Ukraine look like if you are not assuming all the wrong things about history??? What other course of action do we actually have other than to arm the Ukrainians and watch from the sidelines? edit: he also says Ukraine is done in 10 weeks. I'll be sure to tag him in 10 weeks. Comstar posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/tlch9g/the_belarusian_military_contacts_the_ukrainian/ I have a difficult time thinking why the Russians would even force the Belarussians to fight right now. It seems obvious by now their military doesn't want this fight and will perform poorly if made to fight. If you send them in they might just lose badly. By keeping them in this posture you force the Ukrainians to respect the threat of an attack and it effectively ties down Ukrainian troops and weapons as a force in being as they can't risk just ignoring the potential of an actual attack severing their supply lines from Poland without risking actual defeat. MikeC fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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paul_soccer12 posted:Another dawn is breaking and Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian. Dawn isn't for another hour. Nice try.
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Comstar posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/tlch9g/the_belarusian_military_contacts_the_ukrainian/ Very strange. The reddit links to an article saying what you suggest, but either in the English version of that website nor in the Ukrainian google-translated version of that website, I can't find a hint of that specific article. There IS an article both in English and Ukrainian using that specific photo, but the headline there is "Belarus deploys up to four BTGs near Ukraine’s border." Something funny is going on, but that article is almost certainly not true and feels rather like some kind of prank.
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Eric Cantonese posted:I haven't found a comprehensive answer for this either. The closest piece I can find is this: LOL at idea that Ukraine's "Progressive Socialist" party is left-wing. They're Natzbols. Anyway, only one of these was actually significant (OPZJ), and it was mostly self-dissolving anyway (which arguably makes the decision more questionable). The most important kept parties were previous President Poroshenko's European Solidarity, former Prime Minister (a long time ago, also shady gas oligarch and owner of some really fancy hair) Yulia Tymoshenko's Bat'kivshchyna, rock star Svyatoslav Vakarchuk's Holos (voice), as well as bunch of parties that no longer have significant political presence at national level like the far-right crazies, or former PM Yatsenyuk's party.
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OddObserver posted:LOL at idea that Ukraine's "Progressive Socialist" party is left-wing. What do you mean they're very progressive and Socialist what with their policy positions of *checks notes*... homophobia, antisemitism, and restoring the power and tradition of the Orthodox Church. drat next you'll tell me the DPRK isn't democratic or something.
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Deteriorata posted:Ukraine's got enough poo poo to deal with without saddling them with Texas. If Texas is good at anything, it sure isn't "maintaining their status as an independent nation," which is what Ukraine is trying to do.
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Boris Galerkin posted:What information can we get from this? Explain to me like I’m dumb. Supposedly this is barely 10 years old jamming station that can gently caress NATO recon planes from 300 km away, alongside doing other fancy stuff. They’re very much likely to be rushing it to US now, if it’s not there already, to start figuring out countermeasures. Herstory Begins Now posted:Once the mud dries up, which it already is clearly starting to, though it appears it's still going to be a while yet, I’m not sure what this tortured sentence is supposed to express, but just for clarity - mud season can last until mid-May, and can resume as early as mid-September. Eric Cantonese posted:I haven't found a comprehensive answer for this either. The closest piece I can find is this: It’s been discussed at lengths itt and answered on the very same page. Political activities of the specific 11 parties have been halted until the the martial law is revoked. Comstar posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/tlch9g/the_belarusian_military_contacts_the_ukrainian/ According to a press officer of Ukrainian army.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:What do you mean they're very progressive and Socialist what with their policy positions of *checks notes*... homophobia, antisemitism, and restoring the power and tradition of the Orthodox Church. I think the LDPR is another big example of that. Anyway, one thing I should point out is that Ukrainian political parties are still pretty immature, and basically every new politician that's big creates their own party, and MPs often jump between them. If anything, actually the pro-Russia parties were more coherent than anything (public platform: Bandera sucks; policy platform: protect interests of oligarchs in parts of the country where that statement is especially popular), before Putin marginalized them!
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MikeC posted:I hate it when people do this. If you have a beef with what the guy wrote on Bloomberg then you should say what it is. Just saying that he works for some folks that aren't popular on this forum is just an ad hom. Counterpoint: it is right and good to ad hominem Niall Ferguson because he's known dipshit Niall Ferguson who deserves to be dismissed without a 2nd thought. My condolences that you had to read his drivel tho
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Boris Galerkin posted:What information can we get from this? Explain to me like I’m dumb. I posted about this when it was first discovered. It's one of the newest Russian pieces of equipment and a very sensitive one at that, their newest electronic warfare system that supposedly has some very impressive capabilities including being able to jam AWACS for up to 250km, give false locations for missiles to disrupt Anti-Air Defenses, jam low orbit satellite communication and radio frequency communication and controls. Having it in hand means that it can be gone over with a fine tooth comb effectively, see exactly what is in it, how it operates and test it against a variety of US and other military's systems to see how it works in real life. You can use this to develop countermeasures and/or take what innovations, if any, into their own systems. And as someone else said another positive is they can tell if any stolen tech or code is put into it, if so it allows the CIA/NSA to start tracking security threat and close it. It is a massive get and I am frankly surprised that Russia put it in theater at all, let alone allowed it to be captured intact. It puts Russian and their customer's defense back decades likely. It is akin to having knowledge of every piece of security exactly in Fort Knox, be able to test it and the ability to make counters to all of it. Doesn't mean you are going to be able to break into to it but it makes doing so a lot easier and with enough talent and money you can make that a lot easier.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:It’s been discussed at lengths itt and answered on the very same page. Political activities of the specific 11 parties have been halted until the the martial law is revoked. Sorry to be dense, but I just want to make sure I repeat the truth. There other opposition parties that didn't get outlawed, right? Just those 11 and even those 11 just can't do anything that counts as political activity for now?
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Tomn posted:Very strange. The reddit links to an article saying what you suggest, but either in the English version of that website nor in the Ukrainian google-translated version of that website, I can't find a hint of that specific article. There IS an article both in English and Ukrainian using that specific photo, but the headline there is "Belarus deploys up to four BTGs near Ukraine’s border." Something funny is going on, but that article is almost certainly not true and feels rather like some kind of prank. You might be holding your computer wrong about the Ukrainian version of the article, it’s right there. Not all articles get first party English translation on the site, though. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Tomn posted:I seem to recall that some mid-early assessments figured that the mud would slow the Russians down, but once the mud ended, watch out, because now the Bear could maneuver freely and shatter the Ukrainians on their poor defensive terrain. I think both Ukrainian and Russians are underestimating the number of Russian casualties. The Russians for obvious reasons, the Ukranians because they want to seem credible. The Russians have been driving vehicles into an anti-tank weapon filled meat grinder on 5 fronts for a month. And at night entire BTGs are being hit by MLRS barrages. cinci zoo sniper posted:I’m not sure what this tortured sentence is supposed to express, but just for clarity - mud season can last until mid-May, and can resume as early as mid-September. sorry, writing while on the way out the door. tldr: ukraine has been fighting in a situation that is extremely advantageous for them and so far has effectively amplified their strengths. that situation does not last forever. victory in particular would require them to stop fighting defensively at some point. also the mud situation is not forever, though I'm also not convinced that russia is able to capitalize on the ground drying up any time soon. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Tomn posted:I seem to recall that some mid-early assessments figured that the mud would slow the Russians down, but once the mud ended, watch out, because now the Bear could maneuver freely and shatter the Ukrainians on their poor defensive terrain. It also assumes the Russian forces are still in any kind of condition to mount an offensive once the mud dries. They have probably lost at least 20% of their combat power (and the true figure is probably higher), and are replacing their losses with poorly trained conscripts and foreign fighters. If the trend continues they could be reduced to nearly 50% combat effectiveness by the time the mud dries. Not to mention the exhaustion from two straight months of non stop conflict. Meanwhile Ukraine is definitely increasing their own combat power through the mobilisation of reserves, training new recruits and through western military aid.
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Eric Cantonese posted:Sorry to be dense, but I just want to make sure I repeat the truth. There other opposition parties that didn't get outlawed, right? Just those 11 and even those 11 just can't do anything that counts as political activity for now? Yes, out of like 300 political parties just these 11 have been told to sit this one out on the bench. As far as the national parliament goes, 39 of 111 opposition MPs have been effectively suspended. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:sorry, writing while on the way out the door. tldr: ukraine has been fighting in a situation that is extremely advantageous for them and so far has effectively amplified their strengths. that situation does not last forever. victory in particular would require them to stop fighting defensively at some point. also the mud situation is not forever, though I'm also not convinced that russia is able to capitalize on the ground drying up any time soon. The post was fine, I just got confused by Schroedinger’s mud.
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KitConstantine posted:Putin does seem to be seeking to go full Stalin, next logical step is Commander in Chief. Maybe he'll answer himself after he closes the windows behind his ex-generals. And here it goes again, the fast track storyline - through brutal consolidation of power in an existing corrupt state and/or careful inheritance of an end-of-cycle conversion into anocracy/totalitarianship, you become the world's next effective dictator. maybe initially you operate from behind an insistence that you aren't a dictator, pointing at show structures of democracy or party politic or meaningless constitutional ordinances, but you're definitely a dictator now - spend years flensing away any structure of competence in your own nation because it, regrettably, could have real or imagined ability to challenge your power - start doing "my brain is actually three bats in a trenchcoat now" level shenannigans that makes it suddenly but profoundly obvious that you've gone absolutely poptarts - your shenanigans go awry because your country's government in charge of actualizing them had now long ago become a dingbat roost of tolerably spineless apparatchiks and/or coffer-draining plutocrats self selected for appointment because they tell you, crazy angry man in charge, the things you like - the failures begin to threaten your necessary perceived image as an unassailable strongman. dissatisfaction and even dissent begins to bubble up - you mash the fascism button. you used to just give it appropriate light taps where necessary but now you just rapid fire slam on it like someone in a horror movie trying to summon an elevator
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Boris Galerkin posted:What information can we get from this? Explain to me like I’m dumb. Others have touched on it already but essentially what will happen is the system will be examined and copied. The captured system is designed to disrupt airborne and ground based radar systems as well as communications, including communications to LEO satellites. Researchers will throw everything the military currently has or has in development at those copied systems to see how the jamming effects them and how the jamming can be mitigated. New revisions to systems and operational strategies will be made to ensure that if there is a Krasukha-4 on the field AWACS will still work, UAVs can fly, and soldiers can talk to each other.
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Staluigi posted:And here it goes again, the fast track storyline How long do you think it'll be until we reach "suffer a medical crisis and die in a pool of your own piss while your cabal of sycophants simultaneously backstab each other"? Bloody Pom fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:also yeah bruna 30 sounds like a kid and the one dude sounds like he legit might have some cognitive issues. I figured the guy talking very slowly was just doing so for clarity. Note how one of the other exchanges has a request to repeat but slower. I wouldn't imagine that a unit would have the guy who has legit difficulty speaking be the one who radios in for supplies.
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Shifty Pony posted:Others have touched on it already but essentially what will happen is the system will be examined and copied. It’s better than that. Examination of the hardware will give an indication of what upgrades might be possible with the existing system. This can potentially lead to countermeasures that not only defeat the current model but are resistant to any new developments based on the original system.
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Shifty Pony posted:Others have touched on it already but essentially what will happen is the system will be examined and copied.
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Joke's on America, it'll be the equivalent of the Mig-25 and essentially inferior to a PS5.
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Bloody Pom posted:How long do you think it'll be until we reach "suffer a medical crisis and die with a whimper while your cabal of sycophants simultaneously backstab each other"? The world is immensely unfair and many dictators get the reliable "consolidation of power" work done in their more competent days, leaving them potentially very unchallenged for years even when they've descended to a state of full detriment for the future of their country. So consult a d&d chart based on their current age and roll to determine the odds of "suddenly couped" vs "caesared" vs "palace intrigued out" vs "early retirement x years in" vs "managed to hold power so well they were only effectively removed from power by way of medical conditions" vs "dies of age related issues, still commanding their nation into the toilet practically to the last moments" A dice roll will probably be as good a prediction as anything
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Staluigi posted:And here it goes again, the fast track storyline every element of this post is a loving masterpiece
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MikeC posted:I hate it when people do this. If you have a beef with what the guy wrote on Bloomberg then you should say what it is. Just saying that he works for some folks that aren't popular on this forum is just an ad hom. Others discussed and provided the content, including the mediating thread that was originally posted. You not knowing or caring about the source and their context does not obligate us to ignore it.
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Sorry to poo poo post, but I just wanted to say this. I used to play in an all Orc guild in in Warhammer online guild called Spetsknobz. It seems to be a lot more on the money then the guild leader intended though lol.
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Deteriorata posted:Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian.
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headspace posted:Sorry to poo poo post, but I just wanted to say this. I used to play in an all Orc guild in in Warhammer online guild called Spetsknobz. It seems to be a lot more on the money then the guild leader intended though lol. lol
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Deteriorata posted:Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian. Increasingly looking like you've doomed yourself to saying this every day for the rest of your life.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Have we ever received confirmation that the iPhone 76s were shot down? Because that's 400 vdv soldiers in one engagement. I haven't seen anyone definitely answer this but those things are huge and we have not received any confirmation of finding any wreckage that large in Ukraine so the answer is it probably didn't happen
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Pleasant Friend posted:Increasingly looking like you've doomed yourself to saying this every day for the rest of your life. Yeah, it's one of those things that isn't a big deal but still is in some ways. The immediate danger to Kyiv is past, but it's just one post and I'm generally up anyway so what the hell. If it irritates the mods or becomes probation bait I'll stop.
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Morrow posted:Joke's on America, it'll be the equivalent of the Mig-25 and essentially inferior to a PS5. Well with modern Russian hardware the marketing is reportedly pure fiction in a lot of ways. the real capabilities are not much different than the Soviet era tech they have been producing for decades now. A big reason why China has invested so much in their own designs is that the Russian stuff is so far behind the West that they weren’t interested in overpaying for it. Now they have major issues with their development and manufacturing as well as relying on Russia for critical things but much of their modern hardware is night and day better than what Russia is making. Hell for example if the Su-57 was anywhere near as capable as they are claiming they would be using it in theater, especially since they do not have air superiority. A stealth multi-role aircraft would be a silver bullet for them to clean radar and anti-air sites. The fact that you haven’t seen it likely means some mixture of lack of training for pilots to perform that mission and lack of faith in the aircraft to be able to perform that mission.
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:I haven't seen anyone definitely answer this but those things are huge and we have not received any confirmation of finding any wreckage that large in Ukraine so the answer is it probably didn't happen Something that I read about that stated that a reason why the wreckage for those have not been seen is that they likely were behind enemy lines where the public and/or media haven’t had access to. You have to remember that the Russians were very close to Kyiv until very recently so I imagine as the Ukrainians push them further away we will see a lot of losses that we are not privy to yet.
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Pleasant Friend posted:Increasingly looking like you've doomed yourself to saying this every day for the rest of your life. I've chosen to believe that these posts are singlehandedly helping Ukraine begin to win this war, so I hope they continue.
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MikeC posted:I hate it when people do this. If you have a beef with what the guy wrote on Bloomberg then you should say what it is. Just saying that he works for some folks that aren't popular on this forum is just an ad hom. He's a right-leaning apologist for the British Empire, among other things. I had to read his book on that subject in Uni which basically argues that the British Empire was better than other empires of its time, did some good things that have resulted in former British colonies doing better than other former colonies, and that we should forgive Britain for its sins because it nearly destroyed itself to help defeat the Axis in WW2. He also argued that the US should follow in the same path and get over its hesitation about doing imperial things. That's my knowledge of the guy at least. I don't know anything about what else he does and I do not care. Deteriorata posted:Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian. 
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Deteriorata posted:Yeah, it's one of those things that isn't a big deal but still is in some ways. It is still very much a big deal, I skim through the shitposting to find your nightly post. It reassures me, in the simplest ways. Thank you. Slava Ukraini.
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