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I use the PortableApps version of Chrome as my secondary browser. I dunno if I really gain anything by using it instead of installing, but I don't think I'm losing anything either.
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One particular use for Edge that I learned recently is that you can use it to fill out PDF forms that aren't set up that way. If you open any PDF in Edge (Win10 defaults the file association to Edge, anyway), you get a toolbar at the top that lets you type and draw on it (basically add annotations), and can save WIPs. Once finished, you can make the annotations stick by "printing" to PDF. Since I don't have an actual printer, I had to use this for some official local government documentation whose current tech level is roughly dated 20 years prior. It was an acceptable solution for them.
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Mar 7, 2022 19:27
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The real sad thing is that the PDF markup in the old non-Chrome Edge was even better and more full featured.
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no thank you microsoft i do not want a full screen notification about windows 11 on login please gently caress off forever how do i make this never happen again
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Deviant posted:no thank you microsoft i do not want a full screen notification about windows 11 on login Easy, update to Windows 11.
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Mar 24, 2022 14:05
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GreenNight posted:Easy, update to Windows 11. no
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Mar 24, 2022 14:06
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Deviant posted:no thank you microsoft i do not want a full screen notification about windows 11 on login Turn off the TPM subsystem in your BIOS, forcing your PC to be incompatible with Win11. (If you had it turned off before it may have been reset -- MS got every PC maker & OEM to send out BIOS updates for "Windows 11 compatibility" that made TPM default to on.) and make plans to switch to linux in the next 3 years
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Klyith posted:and make plans to switch to linux in the next 3 years Is Win11 really that bad?
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Mar 24, 2022 19:16
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It works fine for me. I have it on all my desktops and laptops.
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Mar 24, 2022 19:21
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Ofecks posted:Is Win11 really that bad? I begrudgingly put Win11 on my secondary box a few months ago and I loving hate it. I have more third party tools to make the desktop experience just *acceptable* then ever before. They still can't figure out search. They constantly regress on UX. There are more ads then ever. There is more 'tied to your microsoft account only' poo poo then ever. I would *love* to pay MS $200 to make all that stupid poo poo go away, but even Pro can't save you from all this bullshit anymore. The only thing that keeps me on Windows is games, and if DX ever shows up on Linux in some pseudo-native form, I'm done with Windows. It's really, really frustrating.
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Mar 24, 2022 19:21
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Ofecks posted:Is Win11 really that bad? It's fine. Goons be gooning.
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I like Windows 11. I’m pretty squarely locked into Microsoft for work, of course. My one complaint is the start menu’s recommended feature. Motherfucker, let me do SOMETHING useful with it, I don’t want to see what the last few PDFs, porn videos, and excel docs I looked at Jesus christ. I just disabled it altogether but you can’t hide it. Everything else I’m cool with.
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Mar 24, 2022 19:46
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Ofecks posted:Is Win11 really that bad? I didn't mean that Win11 is bad. Just that if someone does not want to use Win11 they will need to move off Windows entirely, because 10 stops getting updates in 2025. You can go to linux, or apple, or 11, but you can't stay with 10 forever. As for my judgement about Win11, IMO the OS itself isn't that bad but MS's attitude is. I am mostly concerned about the continued & escalating push for MS Accounts as a requirement to use the OS. First it was only gonna be mandatory on Home, then they reneged and said Pro too. There are some bad things with the UI that are small and mostly fixable, like no left/right taskbar -- and I actually expect MS to fix those at some point. But MS accounts are a hard no for me. And I'm not even a super-paranoid  type -- I still allow basic telemetry from my Win10 machines so MS can collect crash data!It feels to me like they spent the Win10 cycle mostly building up good will, and now they're cashing it in. The MS Account stuff, and other things MS has been doing like the fullscreen ad that started this convo, are making me really question how much I want to be in the boat MS is steering. So personally, I do plan to move to linux and am actively prepping for it. I use a lot of open source / multiplatform software anyways, and the modern VM stuff in linux is amazing so you can still have Windows available as well. But I'm a mega-nerd and these are not necessarily good options for other people.
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Powertoys for windows has come back and has some nice features. I especially like alt+space to pull up a search box in the middle of your screen like MacOS It works way better than the start menu ever did. (Assuming you remember the name of the program you want to pull up) I also have screen pinning with window +arrow set to have a big window in the middle for reading and websites or whatever and smaller windows on the side for discord or whatever. Saves me from finally switching to a 2nd monitor. I probably will someday though.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:The only thing that keeps me on Windows is games, and if DX ever shows up on Linux in some pseudo-native form, I'm done with Windows. It's really, really frustrating. i have incredibly good news about this, but also p. bad news about several popular games ever running on linux regardless, lol all the games i play work great, thankfully (often better than on windows because dxvk is just that good for the type of poo poo i play), but then there's exceptions that straight up don't work, due to lovely anti-cheats. i've been windows free since it randomly stopped booting again in september and i've never been happier, only downside so far is i can't try out lost ark, but with the amount of great games coming out i don't even care anymore if i miss half tbh for most games, it's just installing them into steam and hitting play now
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Gaming remains my big sticking point on windows as well. Like sure, gaming on Linux is a lot better than before, but all those weird anti-cheat/etc exceptions are enough for me to stay off. On the other hand, I've had an MS account for...a long time now? Since basically it was an option, because it was a convenience; I've used OneDrive/etc for a long time and having everything kind of just work out of the box was very nice. I welcome anyone who wants to make Linux better for gaming; I know there's all sorts of turbonerds out there working on fixing the gaps. If you can make it seamless enough, I could see myself jumping over pretty easily since I use Linux at work for production. I guess the biggest change would be getting used to the Linux UX, which I haven't touched outside of a liveCD in basically a decade, but was pretty awful back then.
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Mar 25, 2022 01:24
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Falcon2001 posted:I guess the biggest change would be getting used to the Linux UX, which I haven't touched outside of a liveCD in basically a decade, but was pretty awful back then. KDE Plasma Desktop is really good these days; it's what I'd recommend to anyone coming from Windows. https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/
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astral posted:KDE Plasma Desktop is really good these days; it's what I'd recommend to anyone coming from Windows. Yeah, I spend most of my computing time outside work and gaming on KDE. I mostly keep gaming on Windows out of habit, since I've run dual-boots for loving ever anyway.
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"Windows is bad on desktop, guess I should install Linux" sure is a choice.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:"Windows is bad on desktop, guess I should install Linux" sure is a choice. Meh, I've run both for so long it just feels normal to me. I've run dual-boots for around 20 years now. Good lord, 20 years... 
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Falcon2001 posted:Gaming remains my big sticking point on windows as well. Like sure, gaming on Linux is a lot better than before, but all those weird anti-cheat/etc exceptions are enough for me to stay off. Even the anti-cheat stuff is looking pretty solvable these days, the steamdeck being a monster success was enough to push those doors in. There are only a few holdouts. But it also very much helps to have looked at the last ~5 years of AAA always-online multiplayer games, plus the reasons they are now spending so much time on anti-cheat (it's about protecting MTX as much as anything else), and already be out. I've been doing seinfeld leaves dot gif to AAA MP for way longer than I've been thinking about linux. Falcon2001 posted:On the other hand, I've had an MS account for...a long time now? Since basically it was an option, because it was a convenience; I've used OneDrive/etc for a long time and having everything kind of just work out of the box was very nice. There's nothing wrong with that! And it's not like MS is any worse than google w/r/t personal data collection and I've got google poo poo. It's the way that MS is going about it that raises my hackles. I feel lied to about a number of things around W11. Falcon2001 posted:I guess the biggest change would be getting used to the Linux UX, which I haven't touched outside of a liveCD in basically a decade, but was pretty awful back then. I expect it to be a pain for a couple months. But you know what? I can fix poo poo how I like, and after that I'll be done. In a lot of ways linux is now the slowest moving target for UI/UX changes.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:"Windows is bad on desktop, guess I should install Linux" sure is a choice. --a person trying to play videogames on a mac I mean we each have our own boulders to hopelessly push up the computing hill, but dang, talk about futility.
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I also own a gaming PC running Windows. I just don't use it for things other than games because I'm not a masochist. I like to play games on the Mac sometimes when I don't have my PC with me.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I also own a gaming PC running Windows. I just don't use it for things other than games because I'm not a masochist. I like to play games on the Mac sometimes when I don't have my PC with me. 
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Meh, I've run both for so long it just feels normal to me. I've run dual-boots for around 20 years now. Good lord, 20 years... I'm one of those people who can easily float from Windows to Mac to Linux without missing a beat. It drives my wife nuts. I've just been bouncing around them for so long, and especially remoting in from one to the other, the differences are instinctive for me. I first dual-booted with my boxed copy of RedHat 5 (not EL 5, mind you) I bought at Circuit City.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I also own a gaming PC running Windows. I just don't use it for things other than games because I'm not a masochist. I like to play games on the Mac sometimes when I don't have my PC with me. What do you do on the Non-Windows machine?
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Klyith posted:But it also very much helps to have looked at the last ~5 years of AAA always-online multiplayer games, plus the reasons they are now spending so much time on anti-cheat (it's about protecting MTX as much as anything else), and already be out. I've been doing seinfeld leaves dot gif to AAA MP for way longer than I've been thinking about linux. same lol
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WonkyBob posted:What do you do on the Non-Windows machine?
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I also own a gaming PC running Windows. I just don't use it for things other than games because I'm not a masochist. I like to play games on the Mac sometimes when I don't have my PC with me. So the conclusion we can draw is that every OS is a POS in some way, and even the thing you think is best is still a compromise. The compromise you are ok with may not be acceptable for someone else, or even possible -- not everyone can buy 2 expensive PCs just for funsies. And anyways, I solve problems for 2-3 people a week in various windows threads. I expect I'll figure things out. And if not I can ask questions in the linux thread. It'll be a fun role reversal for me! But what strikes me is that an offhand "switch to linux" comment, which would have been seen as a joke 5 or 10 years ago, can generate a long derail where people take it seriously. Must be a sign of progress?
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Klyith posted:So the conclusion we can draw is that every OS is a POS in some way, and even the thing you think is best is still a compromise. The compromise you are ok with may not be acceptable for someone else, or even possible -- not everyone can buy 2 expensive PCs just for funsies. We should not, however, try to handwave away the myriad problems with Windows by saying "oh well every OS has problems, see, you can't play games on a mac!" Windows has tons of potential as a modern operating system, and Microsoft has squandered every single opportunity in a dogged pursuit of short-term revenue that flips users the bird. KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Yes, there are a lot of people out there who will put up with Windows' actively horrible user experience so they can play Grand Theft Auto. If you can't afford two computers and that's the compromise you want to make...that's okay. It just turns out that a lot of people would rather use a modern operating system with functional UX, even if it means giving up the ability to play videogames. You know, those are some very good points. Microsoft really isn't a great company and I should probably think different about their OS. Switch what I'm using. Break free of Windows, as if smashing out of a prison with a giant hammer. You've convinced me. I'm gonna move to Linux!
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Klyith posted:So the conclusion we can draw is that every OS is a POS in some way, and even the thing you think is best is still a compromise. The compromise you are ok with may not be acceptable for someone else, or even possible -- not everyone can buy 2 expensive PCs just for funsies. More or less. I think Windows 7 was close to being an OS I really enjoyed. I have opinions about it's Start Menu and search was firmly in the camp of 'dogshit', but you had a lot of resolution of control in a reasonably accessible way. You didn't have to fight the OS to do things, and most importantly: There was no 'touch first' design nor was it attached to a Microsoft account. Modern OSes are all Monkey's Paw nightmares. For better or worse, Windows 10/11 is still the best general purpose OS nearly always. It still affords you a reasonable amount of control with a reasonably usable interface, without being cripplingly intrusive, but none of these things are at their best Linux is difficult to wield, even at it's best and the fact that you can't ship a Universal Binary on Linux is still a massive problem, and the amount of software to bridge the gap between Linux's highly customizable underbelly and a human being is finite. Mac OS is confusing. You have all the bad parts of Windows wrt stupid UX problems, vendor account requirements, etc, but with even less control. Combine that with the worst parts of Linux, where what control you do have is hard to access. Any software you write for this might just stop working because Apple has deemed it unworthy. Mac OS is a phone operating system masquerading as a something else and seems to be the correct choice almost never. The frustrating bit here is that it's not like Linux is doing any better. There is outright rejection of projects that try to fix major issues with mainstream adoption and instead of trying to solve problems, they just bitch. I poo poo you not, one of the major arguments against an attempt to create a system of universal binaries was, 'you can just compile the project yourself'. Dear Linux Kernal devs: Are you loving high? My job is software development and even I will not do that poo poo except as a last resort. The 'Switch to Linux' comments are a comment more about the state of the mainstream OSes and less about Linux itself, because Linux sucks at making a case for Linux. All this is to say that the state of general computing is loving sad. I'm just rambling at this point, but I'm not that excited for the future of general computing. The options we have are either an endless list of self-imposed tradeoffs that just get worse, or have maintainers who are actively hostile to change.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I poo poo you not, one of the major arguments against an attempt to create a system of universal binaries was, 'you can just compile the project yourself'. Dear Linux Kernal devs: Are you loving high? My job is software development and even I will not do that poo poo except as a last resort. Quoting this forever, into eternity. Like, the fact that absolute idiots have to be able to use Windows means that I'm so far over the threshold for 'minimum required brains' that it's not even funny.
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To a point this is what flatpack and the like are meant to solve - as long as you have a vaguely modern kernel and working sound/graphics, a flatpack is meant to be "this program, and a complete system it likes, in a box".
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I poo poo you not, one of the major arguments against an attempt to create a system of universal binaries was, 'you can just compile the project yourself'. Dear Linux Kernal devs: Are you loving high? My job is software development and even I will not do that poo poo except as a last resort. The Kernel devs are not high. Linus himself has recognized that this is a major issue. He even complained on some occasions that one software he was working on (some Qt app for diving stuff ... no idea about the details), he could not ship binaries for it in linux due to the sheer amount of distros out there each with their own little peculiarities and software versions. He was shipping binaries of his app for windows and mac just fine. With that being said: binary compatibility is a huge endeavor. Glibc goes to great lengths to maintain at least backwards compatibility but not even they are always successful. Proprietary apps on linux usually ship with everything statically linked and come with the .so's for what they can't and then they strip the paths (such as libc++.so.1 for example). It's a PITA to maintain, but it's less of a pain than compiling your poo poo for every single thing out there. Not surprisingly, the stability and consistency (and the use count, of course) of Windows and Macs also make them more attractive to malware writers as well. A Linux malware will have a harder time (not impossible by any means) running simply because how fragmented the OS is.
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Another reason no one writes linux malware is that no one uses linux on the desktop
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Other than buttcoin miners, who the gently caress still needs to write malware when every grampy will just let you phish their info much easier?
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Another reason no one writes linux malware is that no one uses linux on the desktop That's definitely true, though personally I don't think there's really that much damage to be done when attacking desktops. Sure, you can get Johnny's credit card info, but you're gonna have to hit a lot of Johnnys to make a good buck. Obtaining elevated permissions on a server in a datacenter can make for a good payday. Though, the rising of several key players in that arena (RedHat/Ubuntu) kinda consolidates the field and makes it quite a bit easier to find vulnerabilities and exploit them. And "no one uses linux on the desktop" ... I AM. And there's dozens of us. DOZENS, I tell ya!!!
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Volguus posted:Not surprisingly, the stability and consistency (and the use count, of course) of Windows and Macs also make them more attractive to malware writers as well. A Linux malware will have a harder time (not impossible by any means) running simply because how fragmented the OS is. "Well the good news is that the cancer you have has absolutely prevented you from dying in a freak accident during olympic competition."
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Another reason no one writes linux malware is that no one uses linux on the desktop *deliberately avoids eye contact with a stack of Chromebooks*
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