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Popoto posted:isn't the game unplayable now though? heard it got majorly hosed and never recovered You can roll back to any patch version you want in steam, but no, it's not unplayable at all.
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It is for me. When I bought the game I had above recommended specs but with the latest expansion dlc I clearly don't meet the minimum. I dread the day 1.30.6 gets pushed off the list of available patches. 
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You can roll back far past the current "earliest" beta patch option, it just takes an extra step. You can cheerfully play EU4 of 2016 if you like.Popoto posted:isn't the game unplayable now though? heard it got majorly hosed and never recovered No, Leviathan launch was exactly as hilarious as you have heard or worse though.
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I just wrapped up a fun Shun game in 1751 a few days ago and performance was significantly better than as Orleans in 1450 when I tried leviathan (after they had fixed the major issues).Edgar Allen Ho posted:You can roll back far past the current "earliest" beta patch option, it just takes an extra step. You can cheerfully play EU4 of 2016 if you like.
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Davincie posted:they fixed all the giant bugs that came with leviathan, though the performance is still worse. the new patch did bring some dumb poo poo with it though, like the main loans button no longer showing you your total money loaned It's an even dumber and more petty bug than that, you get the tooltip informing you of your total loans ONLY IF you have enough cash to repay at least one loan. They did some combat rebalancing and AI tweaks that the jury is still out on, I'm neutral about those until further notice. Positive side: Some nice QOL things like notifications of when you have a monument that can be upgraded. Negative side: No more Mayan horde Ryukyu. Hilariously broken thing: Usurping the Emperor of China title gives you the Unify China CB which gets you FREE CORES ON ANY PROVINCE IN CHINA for simply occupying it in a war. So that's a lot of free real estate. Haven't noticed any major performance issues, and I'm running it on a five-year-old laptop that was in the medium potato price range when new. A slight increase in frequency of sudden CTD events but that still only happens on occasion.
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I haven't played EU4 since 2018, I just got fed up with the layer upon layer of new and ever more janky features onto a game which had fundamental issues with pushover AI and really didn't need to be made more bloated. I know that they did at least a couple of major patches since then which were supposed to help with this but I think I just got sick of the basic formula, especially when you consider that I started playing EU3 the year it came out and the bones of the game are still fundamentally the same.
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Poil posted:That sounds fantastic. How? Don't remember exactly how but you need to get a key from the forum by syncing your account. Why it was moved to behind a key like that is because of legal requirements prior to a specific version with GDPR and stuff like that.
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Groogy posted:Don't remember exactly how but you need to get a key from the forum by syncing your account. Why it was moved to behind a key like that is because of legal requirements prior to a specific version with GDPR and stuff like that. 
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MuffinsAndPie posted:https://www.humblebundle.com/games/europa-universalis-iv-complete Thanks for this, didn't have most of the expansions If they do EU5 I hope they detach it from the original boardgame entirely and do something new
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Farecoal posted:Thanks for this, didn't have most of the expansions I think the scope of the game needs to be narrowed and dialed in more. Having both the age colonialism and the age of revolutions be one game makes all the detail a bit zoomed out and lacking focus.
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Pretty sure 95% of people never actually play the age of revolutions bit anyway.
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Jabor posted:Pretty sure 95% of people never actually play the age of revolutions bit anyway. I want a grand strategy game entirely about the age of revolutions. Being France and dealing with the white terrors and committee for public safety. Being Austria and being the main force of counter revolution loving everywhere. Maybe throw the wars of napoleon in to keep the map painters happy
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There should be one 1453-1763 EU game, and a proper March of Eagles for 1763-1836. Prove me wrong.
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Jabor posted:Pretty sure 95% of people never actually play the age of revolutions bit anyway. I regularly hit the 1800s in Anbennar at least!  Mostly because it actually has things to do at that point and also the conquerors which are terrifying.
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Jabor posted:Pretty sure 95% of people never actually play the age of revolutions bit anyway. I've played every game in the series and never have, so I'd be more than okay with them reducing the scope of the game.
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Turns out I already had a paradox account, with forum name and everything. After a depressingly long and difficult struggle with my incompetence pitted against google's terrible mail interface (seriously, in the junk mail folder?!) I managed to reset, pick a new password and even log in. My last activity was apparently in 2013 lol and given the name I had registered I suspect it had involved Cities in Motion. 
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picked up all the dlc im missing through humble bundle good lord there are so many buttons now
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Demon_Corsair posted:I think the scope of the game needs to be narrowed and dialed in more. Having both the age colonialism and the age of revolutions be one game makes all the detail a bit zoomed out and lacking focus. No, no, what we need is to have a single grand strategy game go from 1356 to 1956. This cannot possibly fail.
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Is there a thread for Grey Eminence? People from MEIOU and Taxes are apparently making a grand strategy game, the globe from 1356 to 1956 with OVER A MILLION HEX TILES. And of course it has full pop system, religion framework , and weather system. I dont for one second believe that their claims that it runs well, especially since its a Unity game. Isnt Unity particularly unsuited for games with lots of calculations? Because it definitely handicapped KSP. Also, Im not a mathematician but how does making a sphere from hexagons require 5 pentagons? I thought hexagons could tile naturally into a sphere, and even if they couldnt I wouldve expected needing an even number of filler pieces.
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Communist Zombie posted:Is there a thread for Grey Eminence? People from MEIOU and Taxes are apparently making a grand strategy game, the globe from 1356 to 1956 with OVER A MILLION HEX TILES. And of course it has full pop system, religion framework , and weather system. A flat surface can be tessellated with hexagons, but a flat surface can't cover a sphere, so hexagons cannot tessellate onto a sphere without needing something to fudge it. Also it was only a handful of M&T devs, and not really the big ones. Some of the people staying on M&T got quite mad about having it described as "from the M&T team" as a result. Colour my skeptical about it tbh, even as someone who loves MEIOU
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Communist Zombie posted:Is there a thread for Grey Eminence? People from MEIOU and Taxes are apparently making a grand strategy game, the globe from 1356 to 1956 with OVER A MILLION HEX TILES. And of course it has full pop system, religion framework , and weather system. Oh hell yes
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As is customary the player will invariably have completed most of a world conquest by 1456 and abandon the game
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Communist Zombie posted:Is there a thread for Grey Eminence? People from MEIOU and Taxes are apparently making a grand strategy game, the globe from 1356 to 1956 with OVER A MILLION HEX TILES. And of course it has full pop system, religion framework , and weather system. Unity can handle a lot of simultaneous calculations just fine if set up correctly, but it's a pretty advanced design technique that's based around ignoring a lot of how most people understand Object Oriented programming, so there's no guarantee that it would work for this specific application (although it's impossible to say without knowing more about the game really).
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Communist Zombie posted:Is there a thread for Grey Eminence? People from MEIOU and Taxes are apparently making a grand strategy game, the globe from 1356 to 1956 with OVER A MILLION HEX TILES. And of course it has full pop system, religion framework , and weather system. Hellioning posted:No, no, what we need is to have a single grand strategy game go from 1356 to 1956. This cannot possibly fail. My general reaction to Grey Eminence is 'good loving luck', meant both ironically and uniroincally. GSGs could use some competition since Paradox basically owns the entire market, but I am very skeptical about a single system modeling 1356 Holy Roman Empire and 1956 USA, let alone their pop system and religion system. I want it to be good but I'm not subscribing to their Patreon or anything (and isn't that another red flag?) Allyn posted:A flat surface can be tessellated with hexagons, but a flat surface can't cover a sphere, so hexagons cannot tessellate onto a sphere without needing something to fudge it. The fudge is that there's, like, 5 pentagon tiles, I think. aphid_licker posted:As is customary the player will invariably have completed most of a world conquest by 1456 and abandon the game Yeah, this is I think the real challenge it's gonna face. They've said they have some sort of anti-snowballing measures in the game, and it's going to need it, given that timeframe.
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Yeah when they announced it I thought it was both something that’ll probably never come out, or at least not as advertised, but I’m interested in it and want it to. So for now I just follow the dev diaries. If they launch a cool demo or something I could see throwing them a couple bucks on Patreon.
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Communist Zombie posted:Is there a thread for Grey Eminence? People from MEIOU and Taxes are apparently making a grand strategy game, the globe from 1356 to 1956 with OVER A MILLION HEX TILES. And of course it has full pop system, religion framework , and weather system. I hope this works, but also running all the way to 1956 seems completely idiotic. quote:Also, Im not a mathematician but how does making a sphere from hexagons require 5 pentagons? I thought hexagons could tile naturally into a sphere, and even if they couldnt I wouldve expected needing an even number of filler pieces. That's very much a thing, but I think if it's a full sphere there's supposed to be 12 pentagons.
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Hellioning posted:Okay, yes, 12 pentagons, that's it. Yeah, it's this thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldberg_polyhedron
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Communist Zombie posted:Is there a thread for Grey Eminence? People from MEIOU and Taxes are apparently making a grand strategy game, the globe from 1356 to 1956 with OVER A MILLION HEX TILES. And of course it has full pop system, religion framework , and weather system. I don't have high hopes. Those sound like extremely ambitious promises, and no matter how extensive their EU4 mod is, it's a far cry from making a game from scratch..
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Vizuyos posted:I don't have high hopes. Those sound like extremely ambitious promises, and no matter how extensive their EU4 mod is, it's a far cry from making a game from scratch.. Extremely ambitious, and yet not that exciting. Just seems like they took the parts they liked best about CK, EU, and Victoria, mashed them together and added a bunch more tiles. Edit: like their pitch from the first dev diary is quote:In Grey Eminence, there are no arbitrary mechanics, no board game-like abstractions, no mana points. Instead, Grey Eminence’s systems represent the phenomena that drove mankind towards modernity as faithfully as possible. but it starts by saying "Grey Eminence is our answer to the question: 'How would you build a historical grand strategy game if you had a x100 bigger performance budget?'" and their answer was to make a grand strategy game with x100 the number of tiles. What is the point of having so many tiles? Who played EU4 and thought the thing it was missing was more than a million extra provinces? Randallteal fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Apr 3, 2022 |
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Vizuyos posted:I don't have high hopes. Those sound like extremely ambitious promises, and no matter how extensive their EU4 mod is, it's a far cry from making a game from scratch.. Yeah from the looks of it I doubt these guys are gonna break the "Paradox modding teams make bad developers" curse. Remember the good old days of Magna Mundi and EvW?
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Isn't most modding of EUIV just manipulating and changing Lua scripts? Like I am sure that is helpful and a good skill to have but I am not sure that Lua scripting translates well to OOP, like C# that Unity uses. I mean, I like C# and I think it is fun and easy to use, and Unity does a lot of the heavy lifting in regards to a game engine, but I think there is a significant skill jump between the modding and programing. Not to say they cannot do it, but their mod philosophy seemed to be based around making a million systems, pop-ups, events, whatever, in the hope that some of them were engaging. I don't think adding province count accomplishes all that much. In fact I would even argue that too many provinces cause a saturation and somewhat flattens the impact of certain provinces. Also the "Phenomena that drove mankind forward" seems a lot like an abstraction, such as mana points or board game mechanics. Their comments remind me so very much of Star Citizen.
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Tomn posted:Yeah from the looks of it I doubt these guys are gonna break the "Paradox modding teams make bad developers" curse. Remember the good old days of Magna Mundi and EvW? in fairness you also had Darkest Hour and Arsenal of Democracy, as well as For the Glory which was.. a commercial failure, but honestly the perfect version of what those folks wanted. IncredibleIgloo posted:Isn't most modding of EUIV just manipulating and changing Lua scripts? Like I am sure that is helpful and a good skill to have but I am not sure that Lua scripting translates well to OOP, like C# that Unity uses. I mean, I like C# and I think it is fun and easy to use, and Unity does a lot of the heavy lifting in regards to a game engine, but I think there is a significant skill jump between the modding and programing. Not to say they cannot do it, but their mod philosophy seemed to be based around making a million systems, pop-ups, events, whatever, in the hope that some of them were engaging. I don't think adding province count accomplishes all that much. In fact I would even argue that too many provinces cause a saturation and somewhat flattens the impact of certain provinces. Nah Paradox game mods are mostly around.. fake, pseudo-JSON? I think it's syntactically consistent (i got really far building out a Discord bot, for example, that processed save files to keep track of MP stats over time), but it's also come a long way in the last.. five years or so? Like we're still a way, way long way from anything like Civ 4's modding, but it's "pretty good". And in fairness always been good for what a lot of mods want to accomplish (and, frankly, MEIOU is a fuckin work of art in the EU4 engine).
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Randallteal posted:What is the point of having so many tiles? Who played EU4 and thought the thing it was missing was more than a million extra provinces? That said, the spherical world map is at least a fantastic addition, given that the shape of the world matters quite a lot for distances.
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Lady Radia posted:Nah Paradox game mods are mostly around.. fake, pseudo-JSON? I think it's syntactically consistent (i got really far building out a Discord bot, for example, that processed save files to keep track of MP stats over time), but it's also come a long way in the last.. five years or so? Like we're still a way, way long way from anything like Civ 4's modding, but it's "pretty good". And in fairness always been good for what a lot of mods want to accomplish (and, frankly, MEIOU is a fuckin work of art in the EU4 engine). Oh, I wish it was syntactially consistent. It's close to being so, but there's the occasional bit that is just off enough to make writing a parser using a simple grammar difficult.
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