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LastInLine posted:Am I missing something or would it not be more effective to simply subsidize the cost of gasoline directly? Granted I wouldn't say that's a good idea, but if you specifically wanted to reduce the final cost of fuel why not just force retail outlets to price the good at x and then pay the difference they're losing buying wholesale? richard nixon had an even better idea of handling surging inflation when he was president where one day he just declared that nobody could increase their prices or wages on anything and that if the government found out you did then they would send goons to throw you in jail incredibly, prices not being allowed to increase somehow stopped inflation. i imagine economists remain baffled as to how this could have happened, since it's economics 101 that direct government intervention into pricing doesn't work
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:it makes more sense if you start with the assumption that the oil companies are the ones directing policy. Actually that's where I was starting figuring if the prices were subsidized directly they could increase the wholesale cost to directly siphon more state money to themselves. As it stands the policy might not direct all of the subsidy back to the oil company. It's just a bizarre concept in every way that has that very lib quality of appearing to appeal to voters but in fact is far more likely to make them angry because of exclusion by means-testing and treating the symptom without addressing the cause while simultaneously being nothing but a transfer of state resources to already wealthy private enterprise. A very Obamacare style "solution". Goddamn I hate libs so much and this just encapsulates most of the reasons why.
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Shear Modulus posted:richard nixon had an even better idea of handling surging inflation when he was president where one day he just declared that nobody could increase their prices or wages on anything and that if the government found out you did then they would send goons to throw you in jail I'm aware and while I understand it's probably not a popular opinion I'd argue that Nixon's economic policies and unimplemented proposals were more sustainable than he's given credit for. They weren't all bangers, and his intentions were definitely sus, but taken on the whole they were far more beneficial to the average American than the neoliberal direction taken in the Reagan-to-Clinton era.
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LastInLine posted:I'm aware and while I understand it's probably not a popular opinion I'd argue that Nixon's economic policies and unimplemented proposals were more sustainable than he's given credit for. They weren't all bangers, and his intentions were definitely sus, but taken on the whole they were far more beneficial to the average American than the neoliberal direction taken in the Reagan-to-Clinton era. price controls are an appropriate response to inflation. Not just for what we consider transient inflation like today's or the nixon era one but also for consistent and consistently insane levels of price increases that we've seen for the past several decades in medical costs, education, and housing. in fact, in countries where those things have remained affordable it's either through price controls or public ownership
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remember that brazil fixed their brush with dangerously high inflation by making up a new fake currency that wasn't inflating and then forcing everyone to use that one instead.
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ex post facho posted:Drake no: UBI for people why is everyone so dumb
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Shear Modulus posted:price controls are an appropriate response to inflation. Not just for what we consider transient inflation like today's or the nixon era one but also for consistent and consistently insane levels of price increases that we've seen for the past several decades in medical costs, education, and housing. in fact, in countries where those things have remained affordable it's either through price controls or public ownership yeah like an MRI only costs about $30 or something like that in Japan because the government says that's how much an MRI costs seems like a good idea!
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is the $400 just a tax refund per car? lol
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ex post facho posted:Drake no: UBI for people lmao
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ArmZ posted:why is everyone so dumb Money
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WampaLord posted:yeah like an MRI only costs about $30 or something like that in Japan because the government says that's how much an MRI costs MRIs are free in communist Australia
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cagliostr0 posted:MRIs are free in communist Australia but you cant buy hotline miami
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Real hurthling! posted:but you cant buy hotline miami You could always buy it on PC, and the combo 1 +2 package has it for console. It was just a case of foreigners not understanding the Australian classification process.
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Real hurthling! posted:i like vb, at least you have that If you like lager try to get your hands on great northern, it's probably the best mainstream beer here.
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Guy at the gas station thought it's cool that my Tacoma was lowered. Nope, this is just how they were 100 years ago in '06 my man. /oops, the last page tricked me into thinking this was the gently caress cars thread someusername has issued a correction as of 01:06 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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LastInLine posted:Actually that's where I was starting figuring if the prices were subsidized directly they could increase the wholesale cost to directly siphon more state money to themselves. As it stands the policy might not direct all of the subsidy back to the oil company. blue check democrats will stumble over each other to lecture everyone who will listen on the fallacy of cutting a check to anyone who isn't already a billionaire the only thing that gives me pause is that it requires capitalists to think ahead, which they're capable of doing but it's not exactly their strong suit
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Shear Modulus posted:price controls are an appropriate response to inflation. Not just for what we consider transient inflation like today's or the nixon era one but also for consistent and consistently insane levels of price increases that we've seen for the past several decades in medical costs, education, and housing. in fact, in countries where those things have remained affordable it's either through price controls or public ownership
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WampaLord posted:yeah like an MRI only costs about $30 or something like that in Japan because the government says that's how much an MRI costs also if you're over 40 you're entitled to a free (or maybe subsidized I forget which) cranial and thoracic MRI each year, along with an otherwise very thorough physical exam
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https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/1507052235192254472?s=21 Americans will be hungry for change.
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spacemang_spliff posted:about that Ditto. Called them and got told not to worry about it, that a month between them getting the data and payment restarting was plenty of time.
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the children are wrong and must shuttled into year round school immediately
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WampaLord posted:yeah like an MRI only costs about $30 or something like that in Japan because the government says that's how much an MRI costs and at half the HC spending per capita of america....BUT AT WHAT 'CAUST
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ArmZ posted:why is everyone so dumb actually, subsidizing cars during an energy crisis in a consumption-independent way is actually very cool, and smart.
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Brrrmph posted:https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/1507052235192254472?s=21  If this is the official messaging coming from the white house itself then holy poo poo, buckle up
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HallelujahLee posted:is the $400 just a tax refund per car? yes lol you won't even see it for a year
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Wars are highly destabilizing events so people who lack object permanence due to their immense resources to keep them insular have a hard time grasping said consequences? Look, Mack I’m asking you to sacrifice once more time plus two of time times where one of the times didn’t count because I gave you 1400 with the 600 cmon man
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Brrrmph posted:https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/1507052235192254472?s=21 gently caress yes. Food riots during election season
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Nothus posted:gently caress yes. Food riots during election season we are gonna love the post-USSR russia content
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Lastgirl posted:we have capitalist bread lines at home SOUP lines that would be gazillion snopian pinocchios
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heated game moment posted:imagining what non-political job you could realistically hire the president to do that he would likely succeed at. haven't thought of any yet. gotta keep him away from kids and he can't do any physical or mental labor. maybe a phone bank/call center but he would just get tired and/or call someone fat when was the last time a POTUS had an unironic menial down to earth job before becoming one
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Palladium posted:when was the last time a POTUS had an unironic menial down to earth job before becoming one trump was a union card holding actor before that? IDK im sure HW had to actually use his brain for whatever hosed up poo poo he was doing at the CIA. But my point is when for example Clinton or Obama was president they could probably also be functional lawyers or bartenders or something. Even George W could probably be successful working for an oil company. Struggling to imagine Biden doing anything. It's like if dianne feinstein was president speaking of the dems she is definitely going to get re-elected if she's still alive lol. gently caress you california
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Palladium posted:when was the last time a POTUS had an unironic menial down to earth job before becoming one It largely depends on if you count being in the military as that; if you don't you have to go back to Carter's early years on a peanut farm pretty much If you mean as an adult job before they got into politics, uh, Lyndon Johnson spent some time as a day laborer and then a teacher before getting into politics
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truman never had a college degree (went to a business college but dropped out after a year) worked around rail yards and banks as a clerk, worked on a farm for a bit before becoming A Troop during WWI ran for county judge in kansas after he came back then eventually got elected, became a senator eventually through deals and rear end kissing he made with the democrats while he was a county judge
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