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Marshal Prolapse posted:Isn’t Bing generally crap, except for finding porn? I always remember the jokes that Steve Balmer worked hard on that feature. Pornographers, pornographers, pornographers! e: of course such a terrible post gets the snipe
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Isn’t Bing generally crap, except for finding porn? I always remember the jokes that Steve Balmer worked hard on that feature. Text search and reverse image search are different parts of the engine. The text search is crap, and I don’t talk about it. Reverse image search works quite well in Bing.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Text search and reverse image search are different parts of the engine. The text search is crap, and I don’t talk about it. Reverse image search works quite well in Bing. I just recall the joke, and this was in the 00s, was that the video search was light years ahead of what Google had…in porn. I have to admit besides generating Microsoft points I’ve really never used Bing too much. Not to be the dead horse any further; I just always wondered if others had heard the same joke.
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Hell yeah Russian soldiers are killing commanders. Next we need to drop leaflets explaining socialism to the troops and telling them to open up the bilge tanks on the black sea fleet
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The forces dying around Kyiv will be delighted to hear they are just a little diversion aiming at giving some time to their buddies out in the east.
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Mozi posted:The initial unconfirmed reports of this mentioned they had hit a command post - it's likely that this guy isn't the only target of value that was hit. Good point. Staff officers generally have 5-15 years of experience in addition to a university degree. You can't replace that with conscripts.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Hell yeah Russian soldiers are killing commanders. Your kinda underselling it. They did not merely kill one of their own commanders. They squashed it with a tank.
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Owling Howl posted:Putin whining about Hollywood and the West not giving Russia enough credit for WW2 goes back a long way. Of course scholars and researchers do in fact give Russia due credit and the numbers are right there on loving Wikipedia. But it is about popular perception which is important 80 years after the fact because ??? It tells you how much he wants respect from the West and how driven he is by pride and arrogance. There's not many American WW2 movies that explore the Canadian contributions at Normandy. And I'm going to wager a bet that there's not many Russian movies that explore the United States role in the eastern fronts. The biggest Russian focused WW2 movie that comes to mind is Enemy at the Gate. I would bet there's not even many Americans that are aware of the African campaigns since that was mostly British. Putin's gripes are nonsense but fascism isn't logical anyways so there's not point in attempting to deconstruct the argument in good faith.
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Ynglaur posted:Good point. Staff officers generally have 5-15 years of experience in addition to a university degree. You can't replace that with conscripts. In this case I’m not so sure they couldn’t be replaced by 2-3 semi-competent grocery store cashiers with firsthand experience on “product a needs to move to location b in order to accomplish task c”
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The officer corps of the Russian army is being gelded little by little. Officers will have to hide and be more and more closed off from their troops. Eventually the officer corps will be so disconnected they are ineffective or working off of bad Intel at any given time. Especially with the comm situation. If your commanders are constantly moving and constantly being poo poo on then confusion will disseminate below. Combined with a general lack of command structure, This is Good for the Ukrainian war effort.
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Gros Tarla posted:Your kinda underselling it. They did not merely kill one of their own commanders. They squashed it with a tank. Which makes you wonder just how big an arsehole said commander was, to end up squashed by a fecking tank, of all things.
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I've been following this account for a few weeks now. https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture Former Australian general who every few days will give a high level interpretation on what has been happening on the ground.
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Gros Tarla posted:Your kinda underselling it. They did not merely kill one of their own commanders. They squashed it with a tank. What kind of tank did they use? Im hoping it was an IS-3. A USSR tank being used to crush a Nazi general 80 years after victory is very good optics
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Zelensky asked Orban to finally decide on whose side he is.quote:“Hungary. I must stop here, and be honest. Once and for all, you should decide who you are with. You are an independent country. I have been to Budapest a number of times, and loved it. It is welcoming, just like its people. You have been through some tragic things in the past. I went to the quayside and saw the memorials. I saw the memorial with the shoes by the Danube in the place where mass murders were committed. I was there with my family. Listen, Viktor! Do you know what’s going on at Mariupol now? Please, go out to the quayside, take a look at those shoes, and they will help you realize that mass murder is happening again in the world. That is what Russia is doing. There are shoes and people just like those in Mariupol today. Adults, children, grandchildren. Thousands and thousands have already left. And you are still hesitating whether sanctions should be implemented? And you hesitate to allow the transport of weapons through your country? And you hesitate about whether to do business with Russia or not? There is no time for hesitation. The time has come for you to make a decision. We believe in you! We need your help! We believe in your people! We believe in the European Union and we believe that in the most decisive moment, Germany will be with us as well.” "Orbán rejected both requests because they are contrary to Hungary’s interests." https://telex.hu/english/2022/03/25/zelenskiy-to-orban-there-is-no-time-to-hesitate-once-and-for-all-you-must-decide-whose-side-you-are-on
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I don't think this is true. Firstly, there is a lot of Russians in Kherson right now. There are photos of elements from 9 different BTGs there. I certainly hope that the Ukrainians will retake it, but there's a lot of work to do and unless the Russians just rout it will not be quick. Secondly, the Dniepr is wide, and in the lower area there are only 3 usable crossings. The road and railroad bridges at Kherson and the dam at Nova Kakhovka. Even if the Ukrainians take Kherson, even a dramatically inferior force could probably hold the crossings, especially if the Russians drop the bridges as they retreat. Kraftwerk posted:Unless I’m horribly out of date, I thought harpoons were the mainline ASMs used by most of the US navy in concert with Exocet missiles for a lot of European navies and some less developed countries. Pretty sure the Iraqis and Argentinians have been able to score some pretty nasty hits with Exocets in the past. Harpoons are neither very fast or very stealthy. They were great against the targets that existed during the cold war, that is, ones with fairly anemic AA against a sea-skimming target. Shooting down towards the waves was hard for a long time, but advancements in radars and signal processing have made it fairly trivial. Modern ships would not have trouble shooting them down, to the point where you almost need to trade a harpoon for every single AA missile in the group you are targeting. Of course, there are legitimate questions on how up-to-date the AA systems in the Russian fleet are, given everything else that's going on. (edit:) Just to make it clearer, more modern naval missiles improve probability of success by either being a lot faster, or being smaller and very stealthy. Tuna-Fish fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Gort posted:Taking this more seriously than it was intended, you could probably make a pretty rad series about some soldiers who were at Khalkhin Gol, got sent to defend Moscow, then got sent back East for August Storm, showcasing how the Soviet military went from a shambles to a terrifying war machine over the course of six years, if such soldiers actually exist. Do the Xenophon thing and have the story told from the perspective of one of Zhukov's aides. That could actually be a great film. (Has The Ten Thousand ever been put to film?)
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Putin needs to READ ANOTHER BOOK!! Also oof, getting run over by a tank is a real rough way to go out. KitConstantine posted:There's also a ship with some big guns lingering just off Odesa and some other Russian ships around Snake island
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TLM3101 posted:Which makes you wonder just how big an arsehole said commander was, to end up squashed by a fecking tank, of all things. Sorry how confirmed is this?
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eke out posted:Speaking of real Strelkov, I wonder what's the deal with this post: https://vk.com/igoristrelkov?w=wall347260249_651616 No, it's about Anatoly Chubais. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/23/putin-adviser-anatoly-chubais-quits-leaves-russia-invasion-ukraine E: oops, had the page open for too long.
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MikeC posted:Sorry how confirmed is this? Yeah how we do know... a. he was actually run over b. it was intentional
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There's been two names quoted for the guy that got run over, and one video posted with a guy on a stretcher with legs covered. One said he died, one said he was just injured. So Occam's optimistic razor, assuming bad Western transliterations and bad Russian field medics, one guy got run over and lived for a while before he died of his injuries. I don't think any of the info about being intentionally run over by a tank will be possible to confirm for a long time.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I've been following this account for a few weeks now. Looks interesting, I'll add it. Cheers. MikeC posted:Sorry how confirmed is this? Not particularly well – Western intel + supposed Instagram story from Kadyrov (haven't verified the latter myself). https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1507374658877857805 https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1502330204416626690 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Ola posted:There's been two names quoted for the guy that got run over, and one video posted with a guy on a stretcher with legs covered. One said he died, one said he was just injured. So Occam's optimistic razor, assuming bad Western transliterations and bad Russian field medics, one guy got run over and lived for a while before he died of his injuries. I don't think any of the info about being intentionally run over by a tank will be possible to confirm for a long time. Yeah I've seen no solid proof that his own troops intentionally ran him over. Could very much have been a confused accident, vision is very bad when you're driving a tank and I can totally see someone driving over a dude without seeing him.
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lilljonas posted:Yeah I've seen no solid proof that his own troops intentionally ran him over. Could very much have been a confused accident, vision is very bad when you're driving a tank and I can totally see someone driving over a dude without seeing him. In my head canon, the dude in the tank just started reversing and suddenly heard the Wilhelm scream.
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Biden made a small oopsie. https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1507398345190481975
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Aside, if that earlier report on the possibility of this being a long war is accurate and more importantly, if governments start believing it, we can probably see a few things start to happen in greater earnest: - More formalized lend-lease system instead of the current ad-hoc emptying of the stocks, as mentioned in the report - "Arsenal of Democracy" style spinning up of military equipment production throughout Western countries - this is probably going to happen to some degree anyways as NATO countries arm up in response to Russian aggression, but there might be contracts set up now specifically to supply Ukraine. - Logistical and training pipelines set up for more advanced NATO heavy equipment - currently they've been dismissed as not being relevant to an existential short-term due to the time it'll take to train up Ukrainians in their use, but if a long war is expected then we might see Ukrainian tankers getting trained on how to use an Abrams or pilots getting F-16 training. If the US starts announcing shipments of such equipment that'll be both good and bad news - it'll mean that Ukraine will get better stuff, but it also means that everyone expects the war to go on for a while. - Related to the above, if NATO DOES start shipping in heavier equipment it feels to me like there's a good chance that the Ukrainians will rely on attritional light infantry attacks to keep up the pressure while massing heavy Western equipment until they feel they have enough to manage a decisive, overwhelming counter-punch. - We can probably start seeing more and more organized partisan activity. We've had scattered reports of this for a while, but if this settles down to a long war likely the Ukrainians will start organizing trainers and shipments of supplies smuggled across the lines to any active partisan groups. Unfortunately, this will probably also mean that Russian reprisals against civilians in occupied territories will step up. - Relatedly, if Russia starts believing in the possibility of a long war they may step up relocation efforts as well. We've already seen them starting to move Ukrainians from occupied territories to places in Russia, but if they start to suspect this might end in a long-term peace deal they may very well actively try to shift demographics in occupied territories to give them a better reason to hang on to such territories at a peace conference. Whether this will work or not, I have my doubts if Ukraine could ever, even in the best-case scenario, have enough leverage to force Russia to actually move those displaced Ukrainians back home after the war. Further I have to wonder how those Ukrainians are being treated - given that state media has been demonizing them as anti-Russian genocidal Nazis, and given that they're probably getting moved to "safe" majority Russian areas, how are their neighbors treating them, and how much effort is the government taking to actually care for them? Unfortunately I suspect the answer is going to be "Not very well" all around. Especially if the Ukrainians start spreading narratives that run counter to state narratives. - We're already seeing moves away from gas dependence on Russia, but if a long war is expected this will take even greater urgency, as the sooner you can stop relying on Russian energy the sooner you can sanction them and hopefully cripple them that much faster in a long war. In the short-term the cost of economic disruption from energy sanctions may be seen as too great, but long-term there's both more possibility of finding alternatives and also a greater chance of utterly crippling the Russian war economy and hopefully making the long war considerably less long. - Greater Ukrainian financial and economic dependence on the West. Although they may be able to stem Russian military advances, their economy and taxation systems are almost certainly going to be turbo-hosed by the fact of war and occupation and sieges of their major cities. I suspect they're likely going to be relying on the West not only for financial support but for important aspects of their civilian economy as well as domestic production centers and logistical lines are cut off or destroyed. In the short-term this may not matter as much if you're hoping to drive out the invaders and rebuild the ruins, but long-term this is going to rely on the will of the West to keep supporting both the military and civilian economy of Ukraine, which as a reminder is nearly the size of France. This will existed in the initial flush of the invasion - how long would it last and how strongly in the event of a long war? - Relatedly, I wonder if we're going to start seeing the establishment of some kind of formal coordination organization across the West specifically to support Ukraine? At the moment my understanding is that every country helping Ukraine is kinda doing their own thing, talking to each other through EU and NATO channels but still overall a little "every country for itself" since neither NATO nor the EU is formally set up to provide long-term support to non-members in an active conflict. Might it be possible for some kind of international organization to be set up specifically to coordinate military and economic aid to Ukraine across different nations for the duration of the conflict? This might all end up pointless or moot if it turns out that the Russian Army completely collapses due to morale issues or something, but if governments start actually doing the things mentioned above, I'd guess it's a sign that the governments at least believe they're in for a long war. Which, whether they win or lose, is not going to be great for the Ukrainians. It might still be a victory, but it'll be costly and it won't be clean. Here's hoping for some kind of Russian collapse instead.
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Ynglaur posted:Do the Xenophon thing and have the story told from the perspective of one of Zhukov's aides. That could actually be a great film. Not exactly a direct adaptation, but The Warriors was based very explicitly on the story.
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Thom12255 posted:Biden made a small oopsie. I legitimately can't think of any other way to read this - if he was talking about a theoretical peace keeping mission after the war, there would be no standing in front of tanks left to even do. What the hell is going on?
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Thom12255 posted:Biden made a small oopsie. I can imagine certain people having a field day with that quote, but it's definitely just another case of old man Biden misspeaking.
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It is absolutely going to be a long war. Neither side is likely to capitulate or gain enough of an advantage to overwhelm the other. The only way it won't be a long war is if it escalates into a wider conflict between Russia and NATO.
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KillHour posted:I legitimately can't think of any other way to read this - if he was talking about a theoretical peace keeping mission after the war, there would be no standing in front of tanks left to even do. What the hell is going on? He using "you" in a 3rd person, generic sense. Not those troops specifically. "If you go to Ukraine, this is what you will see" not "You (specifically) are going to Ukraine to see this."
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Carmant posted:I can imagine certain people having a field day with that quote, but it's definitely just another case of old man Biden misspeaking. Yeah Biden has been clear as crystal from day 1 on this. We're not sending troops, we're not getting further involved more than we are. Biden's political career spanned the Cold War, he knows the stakes. I trust him on this one.
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KillHour posted:I legitimately can't think of any other way to read this - if he was talking about a theoretical peace keeping mission after the war, there would be no standing in front of tanks left to even do. What the hell is going on? "You're going to see when" = "You would see if"
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Rinkles posted:Do you think this will have an effect on the election? (Which way?) Increase the vote he gets. Hungary has reasonably firm grip on the press and complete on TV, so all the people that are into those infobubbles will be all for staying out of that mess.
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Tuna-Fish posted:I don't think this is true. Firstly, there is a lot of Russians in Kherson right now. There are photos of elements from 9 different BTGs there. I certainly hope that the Ukrainians will retake it, but there's a lot of work to do and unless the Russians just rout it will not be quick. Agreed. Ukrainian forces have pushed the Russian forces back into Kherson, away from Mykolaiv, but they haven't actually started trying to take Kherson. There has been some shelling of Russian positions and continued raids, but nothing at all resembling preparations for a direct attacks into Kherson. However, the raids and shelling are likely very effective at increasing morale of the civilian resistance efforts and the partisans inside Kherson. They know their forces are closing in and doing well. It's pretty clear from all of the main sources on the local and operational situation alike that this is the situation. Ukrainian counter-offensive has pushed Russian units back into Kherson outskirts - nothing more at this time. I also hope and think the Ukrainian command is still focusing on conserving combat capability and mobility of their forces. I don't expect an assault on Kherson any time soon unless Russia vacate the city for whatever reason. Instead I expect further attacks against the Russian units pushing towards Kryvyi-Rih and the supply lines of that advance. Maybe some activity behind Kherson, but nothing like an assault.
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Carmant posted:I can imagine certain people having a field day with that quote, but it's definitely just another case of old man Biden misspeaking. If anything, this just plays into the conservative talking point that he's senile. He misspeaks sometimes, but usually you can figure out what he meant to say. I don't think that quote leaves much up for "oh just replace this word and it suddenly makes sense." Tomn posted:This might all end up pointless or moot if it turns out that the Russian Army completely collapses due to morale issues or something, but if governments start actually doing the things mentioned above, I'd guess it's a sign that the governments at least believe they're in for a long war. Which, whether they win or lose, is not going to be great for the Ukrainians. It might still be a victory, but it'll be costly and it won't be clean. Here's hoping for some kind of Russian collapse instead. I don't know that Russia won't collapse, but I feel like if it was considered a serious possibility by the intelligence agencies, we'd see more evidence of the CIA et al blowing hard on the house of cards to help it along. Deteriorata posted:He using "you" in a 3rd person, generic sense. Not those troops specifically. Alright, this is plausible.
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KillHour posted:I legitimately can't think of any other way to read this - if he was talking about a theoretical peace keeping mission after the war, there would be no standing in front of tanks left to even do. What the hell is going on? Probably meant something like "if you were there you would see" or "this is what's happening there". Weigh the odds of a 79 year old guy who has never been a good public speaker in the first place phrasing something poorly vs the odds of the US secretly planning a hot war with Russia and accidentally letting it slip.
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