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It would absolutely be an improvement. A non functioning court can't use the shadow docket to make things worse "per curiam" at least. The status quo is bad, but crazy getting ok'd by the ultra right 6 is worse
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Potato Salad posted:History is going to be written by the fascists who actually get things for their voters, not the centrists whose only position is that nothing is possible. You should log off the internet more. The fascists lost while trying to rig an election. They will continue to lose because fascists are historically losers. It may take a while for the courts to be rebalanced but it will eventually happen.
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That would require the Dems, or a better party, to win elections then fill seats. Your confidence is at least as unwarranted.
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Mar 25, 2022 17:38
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Jaxyon posted:You say that as if directly lying about what you would do in hypothetical SCOTUS nominations is a thing that senators don't do. https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/1507352490722967558?s=20&t=wc-Awgu3Dy4g8oywQJepeA Like I said.
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Mar 25, 2022 17:51
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I think we can all picture how the meeting went: "Do you think we should switch away from coal?" "I believe that's a policy question to be decided by Congress, Senator" "Approved!"
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Mar 25, 2022 17:55
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Kalman posted:https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/1507352490722967558?s=20&t=wc-Awgu3Dy4g8oywQJepeA Has Sinema voiced support? Because I can almost hear her prepping to strut into the spotlight, kill the nomination and profit on the right wing circuit as a hero for the next three decades. Bonus points if she invokes Robert Bork.
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Mar 25, 2022 18:44
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Sinema will vote yes as well along with 5-10 republicans. Her nomination is going to go through and she’ll be on the bench as soon as Breyer is done.
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Mar 25, 2022 18:54
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LeeMajors posted:Has Sinema voiced support? Because I can almost hear her prepping to strut into the spotlight, kill the nomination and profit on the right wing circuit as a hero for the next three decades. Not yet a confirmed yes, but generally positive comments; I’d be extremely surprised if she doesn’t vote for KBJ in the end. Mr. Nice! posted:Sinema will vote yes as well along with 5-10 republicans. Her nomination is going to go through and she’ll be on the bench as soon as Breyer is done. Ehhh. I think 2 or 3 Rs is the upper limit, though I’m willing to be pleasantly surprised here. 50-50 isn’t out of the question.
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Spacebump posted:You should log off the internet more. The fascists lost while trying to rig an election. They will continue to lose because fascists are historically losers. It may take a while for the courts to be rebalanced but it will eventually happen. In case you haven't noticed, the Senate is heavily set in the GOP's favor due to there being so many low pop red states to give them a big buffer. Dems in recent history have only held the Senate when having significant turnout compared to the GOP. Whenever the turnout is similar the GOP is always going to come out ahead, to say nothing of the hole the Dems are going to find themselves in after this November since the enthusiasm gap between left/right is pretty dire right now and unless Biden gets his acts together that's not going to improve much by 2024. Much of what allowed the Dems to win in 2020 has been explicitly targeted by every GOP governor and legislature to ensure it doesn't happen again. Also, Considering the court is now a 6-3 conservative majority after decades of being a 5-4 conservative majority and that right wingers have been spending decades focused on judicial capture while Dems haven't cared makes me wonder what you think will 'rebalance' the courts. If the courts are expanded it's much more likely to be done by the GOP to further drive a nail in the coffin of progress. The leadership and conservative wing of the Democratic Party has no stomach for the idea. LeeMajors posted:Has Sinema voiced support? Because I can almost hear her prepping to strut into the spotlight, kill the nomination and profit on the right wing circuit as a hero for the next three decades. Sinema is an egotistical piece of poo poo but it'd be shocking if she doesn't vote in support of the KBJ. Kalman posted:Not yet a confirmed yes, but generally positive comments; I’d be extremely surprised if she doesn’t vote for KBJ in the end. I'd be surprised if Romney doesn't vote for her considering it is unlikely to cost him with Utah voters and it lets him get another round of "look how good a person he is" nonsense from the media. The "best" attack from the right on her has been that she's "soft on crime" which of course falls apart as soon as anyone looks at it for more than 5 seconds. Granted, that's 4-4.5 more seconds than most right wingers will spend on the topic. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Kalman posted:https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/1507352490722967558?s=20&t=wc-Awgu3Dy4g8oywQJepeA I'm happy you're correct, but "Joe Manchin is fundamentally untrustworthy" isn't exactly a bad position for me to hold.
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So in a mockery of justice, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch issued dissent opinions today that basically amount to "Sure, random civilian judges should be able to command military forces and overrule officers about the deployment of special forces units, what could go wrong?" Fortunately they were strongly overruled.quote:WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday blocked a lower court order that prevented the Navy from restricting the deployment of Navy SEALs who refuse to get a Covid vaccination.
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Rejoice, more CT health scares
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Mar 25, 2022 23:43
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I wish I could go the rest of my life without seeing Manchin ever mentioned again. Time to drink grain alcohol until I go blind then, I guess?
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Mar 26, 2022 01:43
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He won’t matter any more after midterms.
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Yes, but not for that reason.
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Evil Fluffy posted:In case you haven't noticed, the Senate is heavily set in the GOP's favor due to there being so many low pop red states to give them a big buffer. Dems in recent history have only held the Senate when having significant turnout compared to the GOP. . Remember those halcyoN days of 2009? Feels like the dynamics of tenuousness are the name when the democrats had 59, poo poo when they had 60, seats.
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Proust Malone posted:Remember those halcyoN days of 2009? Feels like the dynamics of tenuousness are the name when the democrats had 59, poo poo when they had 60, seats. "Tenuousness" is the standard state of all legislatures. The goal is always to pack a bill with just enough stuff to get the bare minimum of votes needed to pass. If a major bill is passing easily, you're not trying hard enough. The main difference right now is that the Democrats are not even attempting any legislation that will require a cloture vote.
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It’s amazing how much the dusty mummy bitch is sleepwalking the Democrats into a crazy loss for this November. It’s almost as if electing a the most conservative option on the entire democratic ticket was probably a bad idea in regards to completely disillusioning any actual progressives who need to vote in huge numbers for the midterms. Oops not like anyone had a choice besides mega donors thanks to how primaries work now. Anyhow that’s not really SCOTUS related so let me edit this post by saying once again gently caress Clarance Thomas. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Spacebump posted:You should log off the internet more. The fascists lost while trying to rig an election. They will continue to lose because fascists are historically losers. It may take a while for the courts to be rebalanced but it will eventually happen. I can't tell if you're being serious, Poe's Law like, there's nothing supporting this other than the vague End Of History notion that progress happens on its own without any work or political buy-in. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Mar 26, 2022 |
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re: Sinema, this is one of the literally black and white lines she cannot afford to screw around with Her swing influence may rest in the FYGM right-wing arm of the party's big tent, but I think this would be too far without some extremely specific and intense pressure from one of her lobbies. I don't think there's anything in the candidate's history that specifically would scare a large financial interest group enough that it would be worth torching Sinema further tl;dr Sinema is a right wing poison pill, but not a time bomb. Her usefulness as an insider foil would degrade were she to go against the purported party platform and direction here. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Mar 26, 2022 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:He won’t matter any more after midterms. What makes you believe this
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mandatory lesbian posted:What makes you believe this They think that Democrats won’t hold the house or senate so there won’t be any Democratic bills for Manchin to throw a monkey wrench into.
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Stickman posted:They think that Democrats won’t hold the house or senate so there won’t be any Democratic bills for Manchin to throw a monkey wrench into. Oh yeah sure, i can see that. I thought they were saying manchin was gonna get voted out which would just be wild to me to think. Apologies to grando
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Evil Fluffy posted:Thomas was just released from the hospital so the universe continues to trend in favor of fascists. Only if he didn't have anything requiring wound care specialists. If he has bedsores he's not going to buy a new mattress and chairs.
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mandatory lesbian posted:Oh yeah sure, i can see that. I thought they were saying manchin was gonna get voted out which would just be wild to me to think. Apologies to grando I think it’s actually fairly safe bet to say that Manchin is going to get turfed out in 2024 for an actual Republican instead, or more accurately lose* by just enough of a margin that he would have otherwise won had he not killed electoral reforms and voting rights.
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I actually think Manchin does pretty well in 2024. No other dem would have a chance in WV, but I think he has at least a 50/50 shot of retaining the seat.
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It would be hilarious if after loving the entire nation in order to remain electable in WV, he's not remotely electable in WV. Well, not exactly hilarious....
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Jaxyon posted:It would be hilarious if after loving the entire nation in order to remain electable in WV, he's not remotely electable in WV. Karmic, is the word you’re looking for.
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ilkhan posted:I actually think Manchin does pretty well in 2024. No other dem would have a chance in WV, but I think he has at least a 50/50 shot of retaining the seat. I think he only runs if he thinks he’ll keep the seat; he’ll retire before he runs a race he thinks he’s likely to lose. (He might retire even if he thinks he’ll win, but he’ll definitely retire if he thinks he’ll lose.) And given the Manchin/Collins Electoral Distortion Field, I wouldn’t bet against him.
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Mancin is also in a pretty good place if he does decide to retire since his stupid poo poo is generally targeted stuff that'll get him on a think tank, corporate board, or lobbying job. Sinema does the same kinds of stupid things Mancin does, but she just pisses off everyone on both sides of the aisle.
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azflyboy posted:Mancin is also in a pretty good place if he does decide to retire since his stupid poo poo is generally targeted stuff that'll get him on a think tank, corporate board, or lobbying job. Manchin also has a daughter who's a billionaire pharmaceutical baron, and is himself a millionaire coal baron several times over. He's quite well set for life and can pull the ripcord on his political career at any time, as opposed to Sinema who's in a mad scramble to lay track in front of an oncoming train that's heading for the edge of a cliff. Joe Manchin might not be a senator in 2025, but Kyrsten Sinema definitely will not be a senator in 2025.
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What’s her strategy, anyway? A republican will never respect a democrat, and she moved almost instantly to make herself the most hated democrat among democrats. She comes off like a complete maniac.
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I AM GRANDO posted:What’s her strategy, anyway? A republican will never respect a democrat, and she moved almost instantly to make herself the most hated democrat among democrats. She comes off like a complete maniac. She real dumb, that's it
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I AM GRANDO posted:What’s her strategy, anyway? A republican will never respect a democrat, and she moved almost instantly to make herself the most hated democrat among democrats. She comes off like a complete maniac. She's very stupid
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I still am a firm believer that the Green Party is deliberately controlled opposition. I base this on Jill Stein and Kyrsten Sinema.
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I AM GRANDO posted:What’s her strategy, anyway? A republican will never respect a democrat, and she moved almost instantly to make herself the most hated democrat among democrats. She comes off like a complete maniac. I think she believes that what Arizonans admire most is politicians who buck their own party.
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I AM GRANDO posted:What’s her strategy, anyway? A republican will never respect a democrat, and she moved almost instantly to make herself the most hated democrat among democrats. She comes off like a complete maniac. Take all the heat for killing bills the party doesn't want passed, get rewarded by having the primary rigged for her. And also the pharma donations she's raking in. She might be going too hard on cutesy gently caress-the-poor performances to win a general election though, but she'll have served her purpose.
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VitalSigns posted:Take all the heat for killing bills the party doesn't want passed, get rewarded by having the primary rigged for her. The party doesn’t want her to kill these bills, though.
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VitalSigns posted:Take all the heat for killing bills the party doesn't want passed, get rewarded by having the primary rigged for her. And also the pharma donations she's raking in. I agree that there are a lot of senators glad that she's there to take heat for sinking bills that they don't want to pass, but there's no way even a very stupid person would make a deal like that. What's the point of winning a primary when you're hated by everyone in the state?
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