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AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

big fork small knife posted:

https://twitter.com/pfn365/status/1507348492741713924?s=21

This would be dumb, right?

BAALKE

# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:41

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 11:57

xbilkis: Apr 11, 2005; god qb
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Getting to the Solomon Thomas and Dante Fowler comps in that article should be reassuring for Jags fans

# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:49

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

https://twitter.com/DNewtonespn/status/1507387998979170316?t=i0o54Cjqx8LCwMFq_hNFGg&s=19

This is incredibly funny to me

# ? Mar 25, 2022 18:06

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

Woozie66 posted:

https://twitter.com/DNewtonespn/status/1507387998979170316?t=i0o54Cjqx8LCwMFq_hNFGg&s=19

This is incredibly funny to me

lol I just shared this in N/V before thinking "Oh this should go in the draft thread". Whoops.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 18:07

TheGreyGhost: Feb 14, 2012; �Go win the Heimlich Trophy!�

big fork small knife posted:

https://twitter.com/pfn365/status/1507348492741713924?s=21

This would be dumb, right?

I mean, if you want the freak of nature upside and think Hutch is too stiff Thibs is a head and shoulders better prospect than Walker so yeah.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 18:16

YOLOsubmarine: Oct 19, 2004; When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

I loved CEH in college because he played his rear end off but he was not fast and his elusiveness and ability to stay upright didn�t translate to the NFL which isn�t surprising. I was happy for the guy that the Chiefs took him but I thought it was a big reach at the time.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 18:18

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Yeah I like Walker but I don't love him and I don't really understand all this recent hype of top 10/top 5. Thibodeaux and Johnson both look better to me at least, not to mention Hutchison.

A lot of it seems to be based on the fact that he played a certain type of defense at Georgia that didn't let him attack every play, so maybe he has pass rushing chops that haven't been totally unlocked/shown? I don't really know, I mean he's definitely a good player and he did do well at the combine but I'm not seeing top 5 much less top 1.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 21:10

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

TheGreyGhost posted:

Yeah, I’m sort of curious when the market starts to correct on this if the cap doesn’t increase drastically moving forward. We have a glut of edges and corners now with very few elite LB/S types largely due to the shift in what’s considered “valuable” in the league and how guys choose positions or get positioned in high school and college right now. I have to believe physically limited game managers have to eventually start taking a haircut on their salaries given that we can confirm that essentially stafford’s deep ball is good for $20m a year over replacement and a super bowl. If the arms race on offense is to threaten anywhere on the field, there’s got to start being a discount for eliminating that possibility.

Anyone have a decent big board site that lists top 250 without having a million pop ups in a printable view?

My take on positional value is that the owners know that it can only change if they break ranks. It's extremely convenient for them that certain positions are so undervalued, like guard or tight end. Every couple of years there's a story about somebody who's a tight end on the roster who produces at wide receiver numbers that gets franchised at like a 60% discount.

Draft network has a tool that lets you make a big board and I don't find their advertising particularly obnoxious.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 21:29

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdHZu8u8p-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgVyf0fD_gY

A couple player breakdowns on Ikem Ekwonu and Drake London that I enjoyed.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 21:52

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

YOLOsubmarine posted:

I loved CEH in college because he played his rear end off but he was not fast and his elusiveness and ability to stay upright didn�t translate to the NFL which isn�t surprising. I was happy for the guy that the Chiefs took him but I thought it was a big reach at the time.

Yeah exactly. He played above his physical presence but that only gets you so far in the NFL when everyone is massive and faster than you. He just got hit by an unbelievable hype train because he was the scrappy glue of the LSU team. Bunch of big plays when they couldn't pass all over teams. Also went big over the top for them on the goalline so there were plenty of highlights for fans to drool all over. Went off the rails after that Clemson game and even then that was a Chase/Jefferson show that let him compile stats.

His out of the backfield presence overrating is what I think sunk him in the fan's eyes. He wasn't that phenomenal of a pass blocker and didn't really have the hands to be anything more than a wheel/flats guy that occasionally shoots up a seam. Him getting compared to Barkley's receiving ability was absurd at the time as it is now. I didn't watch a ton of him on the Chiefs but I'm assuming a 5'7 guy isn't having the best time in pass protection at the next level.

The weird thing is he's a way better runner than out of the backfield pass catching threat. In college he constantly was churning his legs and being shifty as gently caress with his spin moves. He also easily bowled over a lot of quality SEC defenders because he's not that small physically. He's just not Sproles/MJD shifty and that much contact in the NFL for someone his size has pretty much wrecked his body already from what I see with his injury history.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:16

Sad King Billy: Jan 27, 2006; Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!

Would wide receivers not hate comps, since they have healthy egos and don't want to be compared to anyone?

# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:32

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Sad King Billy posted:

Would wide receivers not hate comps, since they have healthy egos and don't want to be compared to anyone?

The veteran probably isn't crazy about it unless they like the young player. For example, I remember Vick really liking Lamar and pumping him up in terms of his speed and such (but still said he had a weaker arm or something like that, gotta keep the pride intact). The young player I'm sure loves to be compared to guys like Julio Jones and Keenan Allen no matter how absurd it might be. At the same time it's just noise, no actual player takes those that seriously.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:39

YOLOsubmarine: Oct 19, 2004; When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Doltos posted:

Yeah exactly. He played above his physical presence but that only gets you so far in the NFL when everyone is massive and faster than you. He just got hit by an unbelievable hype train because he was the scrappy glue of the LSU team. Bunch of big plays when they couldn't pass all over teams. Also went big over the top for them on the goalline so there were plenty of highlights for fans to drool all over. Went off the rails after that Clemson game and even then that was a Chase/Jefferson show that let him compile stats.

His out of the backfield presence overrating is what I think sunk him in the fan's eyes. He wasn't that phenomenal of a pass blocker and didn't really have the hands to be anything more than a wheel/flats guy that occasionally shoots up a seam. Him getting compared to Barkley's receiving ability was absurd at the time as it is now. I didn't watch a ton of him on the Chiefs but I'm assuming a 5'7 guy isn't having the best time in pass protection at the next level.

The weird thing is he's a way better runner than out of the backfield pass catching threat. In college he constantly was churning his legs and being shifty as gently caress with his spin moves. He also easily bowled over a lot of quality SEC defenders because he's not that small physically. He's just not Sproles/MJD shifty and that much contact in the NFL for someone his size has pretty much wrecked his body already from what I see with his injury history.

The Bama game probably got him drafted two rounds early. He was was elusive, ran through contact to pick up a few critical first downs, made a shoestring catch for one of them and just generally physically imposed on a team that wasn�t short on talent. But that was definitely a case of a guy playing his best possible football at the best possible time.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 00:00

LiquidFriend: Apr 5, 2005

Doltos posted:

Yeah exactly. He played above his physical presence but that only gets you so far in the NFL when everyone is massive and faster than you. He just got hit by an unbelievable hype train because he was the scrappy glue of the LSU team. Bunch of big plays when they couldn't pass all over teams. Also went big over the top for them on the goalline so there were plenty of highlights for fans to drool all over. Went off the rails after that Clemson game and even then that was a Chase/Jefferson show that let him compile stats.

His out of the backfield presence overrating is what I think sunk him in the fan's eyes. He wasn't that phenomenal of a pass blocker and didn't really have the hands to be anything more than a wheel/flats guy that occasionally shoots up a seam. Him getting compared to Barkley's receiving ability was absurd at the time as it is now. I didn't watch a ton of him on the Chiefs but I'm assuming a 5'7 guy isn't having the best time in pass protection at the next level.

The weird thing is he's a way better runner than out of the backfield pass catching threat. In college he constantly was churning his legs and being shifty as gently caress with his spin moves. He also easily bowled over a lot of quality SEC defenders because he's not that small physically. He's just not Sproles/MJD shifty and that much contact in the NFL for someone his size has pretty much wrecked his body already from what I see with his injury history.

Blocking is ok. His problem in the NFL is his vision is near Trent Richardson levels. It's really bad.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 00:49

Ornery and Hornery: Oct 22, 2020

TheGreyGhost posted:

Pro comps aren�t really the best for this�so keep in mind I would call these comparisons to that NFL player solely as a prospect;

Wilson � Amari Cooper/Rashod Bateman. 6�1 4.4 guy. Dude just produces against everyone and plays everywhere on the field and runs extensively clean results. Nothing about him is ideal. His speed is good but probably 4.4. His agility is good enough to be a one cut screen guy but not enough to break 7 defenders ahead of him. His hands are solid but have occasional drops near the sticks. His feet are great but prone to slipping and being behind the rest of his gate in short field situations. Like, he�s the perfect B+/A- at everything but doesn�t definitely do anything wel enough to be a specialist.

Williams � Desean Jackson/Stefon Diggs. 6� 4.2 guy. Purest burner we�ve seen in a while that doesn�t have obvious size concerns or lack route tree experience. Bigger than a John Ross, more legit than a Curtis Samuel or Paris Campbell. I would absolutely love to see him channel that size into a more consistent release, but there are like 5 CBs in college he isn�t immediately faster than and he didn�t have to play them this year. Put him on Go/Post/Cross duty, and he will separate. That said, he doesn�t always focus through catches and is extremely lazy with shorter routes/cut and stop movements where he gets told to stop. Dude loves to run. Two options for success�either learn to keep routes looking similar until the break or learn to feign a route when running another. Most successful NFL receivers lean on the first, but guys who are fast enough can do the second which is more effective, if you have the raw speed to pull it off.

London � Keenan Allen/Healthy Brandon Marshall. 6�5 4.5 guy if I�m guessing, enough of a long strider to not be a genius. Dude who gets a million targets on a flailing team who is a massive target with good hands and plus size. Harrell�s offense runs a near full route tree and seems to build some monstously precise route runners which he is the next of. He�s also a basketball guy who can seriously leap and fight for moss balls that make him an ideal jump ball/back shoulder target which is getting more and more important in the downfield game beyond the stereotypical burner. If I�m critiquing, I do question his long speed at times and his ability to push guys off at the line for a guy his size, since he seems to use his blocking technique at times and drive guys in press rather than shedding.

Burks � Davante Adams/Demaryius Thomas. Weird offense. It�s not quite the vertical Briles offense of yore. But it�s really really similar in the ability to stick really tall fast guys on vertical routes from out wide that don�t always translate super well.6�3 4.4 guy I bet. He blocks like a monster but doesn�t always cleanly release which means he frequently gives back a step he would get. I think it�s because he tries to go over blocks to release every timerather than releasing under, which big guys do because fades and other jump ball routes essentially necessitate that you always stay above the defender. Essentially. It�s like when a pass rusher only has one move. He makes up for it by doing some of the most impressive pushing off I�ve ever seen that�s almost never flagged. He�s a freaky enough athlete that some minor technique tweaks with his release and just building his route tree could make him monstrous, but he just wasn�t asked to do finesse things like jerk/double routes that are more technical than athletic feats which could inherently limit him from being a true WR1 without being able to counter his own moves.

Olave � Devin Smith/Nelson Agholor The B student to Wilson�s A- 6� 4.4-4.5 guy with elite body control that enables him to use his decent hands downfield to catch bombs that look impressive. I don�t think he�s fast enough to be a true deep threat, so he�s inherently a guy who needs to separate via routes and timing, which he does decently at times. He drops balls he shouldn�t, and he absolutely takes plays off when the ball isn�t coming his way or he knows he�s doubled and just distracting, which is a problem when margins drop in the nfl. He could be good, but I don�t see a guy who is better than a high end WR2

Pickens � AJ Brown/Allen Robinson. We�ll see how fast he actually is at the combine because Georgia refused to use him properly all year, and he�s going to be coming off of an injury. If he�s as fast as hyped, he�s a dark horse candidate for best pro, since he�s 6�3 or so and blocks like a fullback. They run him on a bunch of curl/vert/out/double routes that make him an overqualified perimeter guy but not what I want in a short range guy with weird concentration issues on slants and short game things and the occasional dropsy. If he cleans those up and doesn�t do the dumb poo poo with opponents that gets 15 yarders, his upside is huge.

Ross � Mike Williams/Courtland Sutton. Vertical/circus catch receiver who murders dudes over the middle vertically but looks like he�s got serious issues on a slant/curl/in/out type pattern with failing to plant himself or move economically. When you factor in his injury time, his first NFL season will be huge from a consistent rep standpoint. I love his hands and competitiveness, but his injury history is scary, as is the fact that I just don�t believe he can run away from guys over the top.

Metchie � Robert Woods/Deebo Samuel. Clean, 6� 4.4 guy with insane crossing agility that pops him open on in/out and wheel routes on top of the usual deep routes. What I want to see happen with him is for someone to buy him a Randy Moss highlight tape and some stickum. He drops balls at the sideline when it�s over a defender and will get boxed out by a defender on underthrows from lack of competition. What I hate to see is that he�s not big enough to push guys around off the line or on those comebacks consistently, meaning he really needs to catch the balls that get over a defender. If I were giving him priorities, hands drills then really working on getting under a defenders arms to drive through space before he can be pushed off. Put him in a system that keeps press off him, and he can be great.

Dotson � Calvin Ridley/Tyler a Lockett 5�11 burner who is monstrously competitive on jumps and vertical balls. Doesn�t always explode through DBs but beats man coverage enough that he can get bracketed and still produce. When he�s covered in zone, he looks for opening and waits instead of attacking the ball. His hands on contested catches are amazing, but he�s shown some ability to lose focus waiting to make a play within 10 yards.

Deep class this year, bunch of guys who are 1 thing away from a legit WR1 prospect but there�s no one this year that looks like a Julio/Green caliber prospect.

any updates to your wr notes?

# ? Mar 26, 2022 06:53

Ornery and Hornery: Oct 22, 2020

also TGG, what is Carson Strong's actual arm strength? Highlights are highlights. Analysis I've read range from "extremely strong" to "limited".

# ? Mar 26, 2022 07:00

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

Play posted:

The veteran probably isn't crazy about it unless they like the young player. For example, I remember Vick really liking Lamar and pumping him up in terms of his speed and such (but still said he had a weaker arm or something like that, gotta keep the pride intact).

He's not wrong

# ? Mar 26, 2022 21:09

TheGreyGhost: Feb 14, 2012; �Go win the Heimlich Trophy!�

Ornery and Hornery posted:

also TGG, what is Carson Strong's actual arm strength? Highlights are highlights. Analysis I've read range from "extremely strong" to "limited".

His air looks fantastic, but he floats balls and looks weak because he has incredibly lazy/lovely footwork, especially for a flat footed shotgun guy who runs a modified raid. I think he�s definitely above average when he steps in, but some coach has to get on his rear end about using some smaller adjustment steps and not being lazy with early steps since they�ll enable him to hit tighter windows faster.

No real updates to receivers. Just that I would put London at WR1 and some mixture of Wilson, Pickens, or Burks based on your choice. Then Williams with the injury, Olave, and most of the others. No one has particularly changed their athletic profile from projection or had different tape.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 21:25

Chucktesla: Jul 13, 2014

I just watched Mike Vick clips due to previous discussion and goddamn I forgot how good desean Jackson used to be. Anyways Jamison Williams at 17 sounds cool to me

# ? Mar 26, 2022 22:06

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iYhRn2usi0

# ? Mar 26, 2022 23:00

Hizawk: Jun 18, 2004; High on the Lions.

Will the crazy off-season trades and moves bleed into draft day?

Maybe we will also see a record number of during draft trades as well.

# ? Mar 28, 2022 08:39

Cavauro: Jan 9, 2008

i hope there are 100 trades during the draft and every one of them is picks for a player

# ? Mar 28, 2022 10:35

Chucktesla: Jul 13, 2014

Not much going on, so is this Zach Tom guy any good? Because I am interested

# ? Mar 28, 2022 14:12

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

He's probably the 1st/2nd center off the board if people don't like Linderbaum

# ? Mar 28, 2022 14:20

Ornery and Hornery: Oct 22, 2020

Chucktesla posted:

Not much going on, so is this Zach Tom guy any good? Because I am interested

Barely 300 pounds. Screams bust. Not in my NFL.

# ? Mar 28, 2022 14:32

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

PFF did their positional surplus value chart for each round of the draft. CBs being so low on value is a bit surprising. The rest makes sense.
https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1508431309965778946

# ? Mar 28, 2022 14:42

Pron on VHS: Nov 14, 2005; Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling

Kareem Hunt was such a wrecking ball in the Chiefs offense. Damien Williams got close but no RB has been able to really punish light boxes like Kareem did. People forget he won the rushing title the same year Mahomes had his 5000/50 MVP season

# ? Mar 28, 2022 14:46

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

Diva Cupcake posted:

PFF did their positional surplus value chart for each round of the draft. CBs being so low on value is a bit surprising. The rest makes sense.
https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1508431309965778946

Why is ED on the list? I know it used to generate a lot of ad money for the league but it doesnt make sense on this chart.

# ? Mar 28, 2022 16:15

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Why is ED on the list? I know it used to generate a lot of ad money for the league but it doesnt make sense on this chart.

EDDI taking up two rows there, draft a dude named Eddie.

# ? Mar 28, 2022 16:26

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Kyle Hamilton apparently ran poorly at the ND pro day and the draftniks think it drops him out of the top 10.

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1508592248878874624

# ? Mar 29, 2022 00:54

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

I've gotten a little less high on Hamilton, even though I think he has the potential to be an amazing player. The issue for me is yeah he's super versatile in college, he can do all these different things, but can he do any of them super well on an NFL level? He's big but he's not particularly tough against run blocking and usually doesn't play near the line of scrimmage. He plays deep safety most often, and I think he can succeed there more or less but does he have the speed to be elite in the NFL at that position? Not to mention the discipline to not get looked off which is the norm in the NFL now and the makeup speed to make himself right even when he's wrong? He plays slot defender but again, I don't think he'd be very successful there in the NFL unless it's against a big slot or tight end. A lot of his biggest plays find him out of position and I think teams at the next level will be better at getting him out of position for big plays. Probably his best trait would be matching up against tight ends and big receivers in man coverage, which is a crucial skill and a great thing to have but isn't a real 'position', and you'd generally want more than that for a top 10 safety.

Again I think he probably will be a successful player, but I can definitely see a lot of teams looking at him and liking him as a player but thinking 'ehh we don't really have the best role for him.' He reminds me a little bit of Isaiah Simmons who had similar concerns and still hasn't really found his place or his groove in the NFL. I'm sure some team will see him and figure that he's the perfect player for some role they've envisioned, though.

Play fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Mar 29, 2022

# ? Mar 29, 2022 01:05

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

Play posted:

Again I think he probably will be a successful player, but I can definitely see a lot of teams looking at him and liking him as a player but thinking 'ehh we don't really have the best role for him.' He reminds me a little bit of Isaiah Simmons who had similar concerns and still hasn't really found his place or his groove in the NFL. I'm sure some team will see him and figure that he's the perfect player for some role they've envisioned, though.

I wonder if he'll drop to the Cardinals...

# ? Mar 29, 2022 01:28

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

https://twitter.com/MichaelMarino37/status/1508519211500331009

# ? Mar 29, 2022 02:47

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Diva Cupcake posted:

https://twitter.com/MichaelMarino37/status/1508519211500331009

Well Chris clearly knows how to make a headline, lol. Really all that needs to be said.

# ? Mar 29, 2022 16:20

AndrewP: Apr 21, 2010

Play posted:

I've gotten a little less high on Hamilton, even though I think he has the potential to be an amazing player. The issue for me is yeah he's super versatile in college, he can do all these different things, but can he do any of them super well on an NFL level? He's big but he's not particularly tough against run blocking and usually doesn't play near the line of scrimmage. He plays deep safety most often, and I think he can succeed there more or less but does he have the speed to be elite in the NFL at that position? Not to mention the discipline to not get looked off which is the norm in the NFL now and the makeup speed to make himself right even when he's wrong? He plays slot defender but again, I don't think he'd be very successful there in the NFL unless it's against a big slot or tight end. A lot of his biggest plays find him out of position and I think teams at the next level will be better at getting him out of position for big plays. Probably his best trait would be matching up against tight ends and big receivers in man coverage, which is a crucial skill and a great thing to have but isn't a real 'position', and you'd generally want more than that for a top 10 safety.

he sounds like a Raven except they just signed Marcus Williams for the deep safety role

it's amazing reading all of this "ehhh" stuff about him now because a few days ago people were saying he could be the best player in the draft.

AndrewP fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Mar 29, 2022

# ? Mar 29, 2022 16:47

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

AndrewP posted:

he sounds like a Raven except they just signed Marcus Williams for the deep safety role

it's amazing reading all of this "ehhh" stuff about him now because a few days ago people were saying he could be the best player in the draft.

People are ehhh about drafting a safety in the top 5.

There's no question Hamilton is a very good prospect; the question is whether a very good safety even moves the needle on wins for bad team picking high in the draft.

# ? Mar 29, 2022 17:33

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Draft network thinks Nakobe Dean is a second rounder. Man the Bengals don't need a linebacker but I would have a hard time saying no to him at 31.

# ? Mar 30, 2022 16:07

TheGreyGhost: Feb 14, 2012; �Go win the Heimlich Trophy!�

Eifert Posting posted:

Draft network thinks Nakobe Dean is a second rounder. Man the Bengals don't need a linebacker but I would have a hard time saying no to him at 31.

He�s got better instincts than any of the speed MLBs in a little while�going to be a question of if teams think he�s big enough. I�m not sure he�s the best fit for the 4-3 the Bengals run He would be a nice piece to essentially run spill and kill sets and go wide off of guys 2-gapping and clogging. With Hendrickson and Hubbard, the bengals tend to set the edge with ends and dare you to go up the middle�neither is an elite speed lord at the edge but can essentially ruin wide runs with the combo rushes they have. As such, I would be wanting a thumper for MLB like Beavers or Muma, unless they plan to let the ends crash inside more. Draft guys feel burned by Queen/Bush/Simmons right now�even though I think Dean is a lot better as a thumper than any of those dudes.

Really though, you should be hoping for one of the Georgia DTs or one of the myriad corners to be there, way bigger bang for buck with that scheme.

Diva Cupcake posted:

Kyle Hamilton apparently ran poorly at the ND pro day and the draftniks think it drops him out of the top 10.

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1508592248878874624

He�s gonna go in the first, but I can�t imagine many teams caring that much. Dude is a freak on tape, and that�s going to count for a lot more when you see how he matches up. The best use case for him is covering TEs, blitz/run switches, and doing occasional Kam Chancellor/Derwin James poo poo where you walk him up and down. He�s not a MOF guy, and he has a better LB body than like half the first round MLBs over the last few years. It�s like if Peppers had been productive in college. Is that worth too 10? I would think about it if I�m in a division with miserable TE matchups or generational RBs.

# ? Mar 30, 2022 21:49

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Yeah my best case scenario is either Zion Johnson or Wyatt. I think they're looking for a cornerback to fall but I can never quite figure out what the Bengals look for in a corner, other than the obvious stuff. I don't think they're drafting an interior defensive lineman unless they feel like he can play three tech at a high level, They already have options for basically everything else.

# ? Mar 30, 2022 22:20

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 11:57

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

Anyone who doesn't have Nakobe Dean in the top 15 should be disregarded unless he's horrifically injured and no one knows it or something

# ? Mar 30, 2022 22:44

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