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So are the gang tags no longer being given out because the enlightened nazi hunters and Russian war crime explainers at the other subforum that may not be named took issue with them?
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Omon Ra posted:So are the gang tags no longer being given out because the enlightened nazi hunters and Russian war crime explainers at the other subforum that may not be named took issue with them?  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Omon Ra posted:So are the gang tags no longer being given out because the enlightened nazi hunters and Russian war crime explainers at the other subforum that may not be named took issue with them? No, it just takes time to get gangtags processed, it's time consuming for mods and then needs admin approval. There is also some discussion about limiting gangtags to donations for "whitelisted" charities listed in the OP to avoid goons donating to unlisted charities, posting them here, then having it pointed out that they've donated to an org with far-right associations. Which has happened twice recently that I'm aware of.
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Fritz the Horse posted:No, it just takes time to get gangtags processed, it's time consuming for mods and then needs admin approval. It happened again on the last page, goon donated to a group who openly posts about arming Azov Batallion, and the OP has not been updated to discourage donating to said group.
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my bony fealty posted:It happened again on the last page, goon donated to a group who openly posts about arming Azov Batallion, and the OP has not been updated to discourage donating to said group. Yes thanks, looks like that got lost in the following exchange. Looking at the website, that org supplies "defence" gear (optics, software, drones, etc) and training to Ukrainian armed forces and we don't want to encourage donating for military equipment. On top of that, the tweet you linked is of them donating drones to Azov so a double whammy of military equipment + supporting neo-Nazi battalions.
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Omon Ra posted:So are the gang tags no longer being given out because the enlightened nazi hunters and Russian war crime explainers at the other subforum that may not be named took issue with them? Dunno, still waiting on mine. I think it might be a big backlog.
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Omon Ra posted:So are the gang tags no longer being given out because the enlightened nazi hunters and Russian war crime explainers at the other subforum that may not be named took issue with them? No we stopped because people were losing them within hours, if not minutes due to someone buying replacement avs and breaking the gangtag. We will resume giving them out.
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Came into a bit of money, decided to contribute more to the Ukrainian cause; $100 to MSF this time.  Again, no gang tag, please. William Bear fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:No, it just takes time to get gangtags processed, it's time consuming for mods and then needs admin approval. Can I petition to get the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in the USA whitelisted?
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Fritz the Horse posted:Looking at the website, that org supplies "defence" gear (optics, software, drones, etc) and training to Ukrainian armed forces and we don't want to encourage donating for military equipment.
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crazypeltast52 posted:Can I petition to get the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in the USA whitelisted? Omon Ra posted:Why did you put "defence" in quotes? Do you not think that Ukraine is defending against a Russian invasion? I don't understand this moral stance. Do you think the international community should not be supporting the Ukrainian military, only sending medical supplies and maybe body bags? Huh? That was the language used on the website, it wasn't commentary of mine. The charity being discussed stated they didn't fund "arms" but they do fund training and "defence" gear such as optics, software, drones and so on. They tweeted about donating drones to Azov. We don't have any charities in the OP that donate significantly to that sort of military equipment afaik. Even if that charity wasn't donating equipment to Azov battalion, we're not encouraging or giving out gangtags for people donating toward military equipment. edit: and this isn't about what "the international community" should be sending to Ukraine, this is a thread for small charitable donations from posters on the Something Awful subforum Debate & Discussion. If you want to discuss the broader question of what types of aid should be sent to Ukraine, there's a whole huge thread for that.
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Fritz the Horse posted:edit: and this isn't about what "the international community" should be sending to Ukraine, this is a thread for small charitable donations from posters on the Something Awful subforum Debate & Discussion. If you want to discuss the broader question of what types of aid should be sent to Ukraine, there's a whole huge thread for that.
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Omon Ra posted:No, I want to discuss the philosophical stance of Something Awful (which I see as a part of the international community, albeit a tiny negligible one). In the main thread, most posters seem to agree that the West should be providing Ukraine with military equipment. I'm trying to understand why you think donations for that purpose should be discouraged. "We don't want to help you actually defend yourselves, but we'll give some aid for war orphans and refugees" just seems like an absurd, inhumane approach. Doing a charity drive for weapons in general, let alone when you have no idea where the weapons might end up, is obviously a lot more morally complicated than providing humanitarian aid to people, how is that controversial? Many governments are handing Ukraine all sorts of munitions right now for free, so I don't know how you think scrounging for people's pocket change to buy a grenade launcher is going to make a difference anyway.
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Omon Ra posted:No, I want to discuss the philosophical stance of Something Awful (which I see as a part of the international community, albeit a tiny negligible one). In the main thread, most posters seem to agree that the West should be providing Ukraine with military equipment. I'm trying to understand why you think donations for that purpose should be discouraged. "We don't want to help you actually defend yourselves, but we'll give some aid for war orphans and refugees" just seems like an absurd, inhumane approach. Would you be ok with money you donated to arm Ukraine buying weapons for far-right groups? What is your philosophical stance there?
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Guys, unless you are calling out a specific group that we have listed, please leave the 'debate and discuss donations' out of this thread, please
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It's Pay Day, so another donation. I would like a gang tag, please. And someone is coming by to give me some Ukranian borscht, so I am excited!
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Dropped a hundred towards humanitarian aid. I'd take a gangtag, already have too many, just remove the others if possible
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my bony fealty posted:Would you be ok with money you donated to arm Ukraine buying weapons for far-right groups? What is your philosophical stance there? Do you really think that the hypothetical threat of far-right groups in the future is in any way comparable to the current killing, raping, kidnapping, and just general grab bag of atrocities being committed by the current Russian army, which has a long and consistent history of being in every way terrible and barely better than the actual WW2 Nazis? Nothing any far-right group in Europe has done since literally WW2 has been anywhere near as horrifyingly destructive as the current Russian war crimes, and nothing is making the far-right look better by the minute than the ongoing Russian war crimes. You don't want the far-right to gain support? Great, that means ending the war ASAP. Which means getting as many weapons as possible into every available hand on the Ukrainian side. You are using distant hypotheticals to discourage people from doing the objectively correct thing here and now, which means you are literally carrying water for Putin. You should take some time and consider how you ended up in this position, and how you can avoid supporting genocidal dictators in the future. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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That's a discussion for one of the Ukraine megathreads, by all means take it there. We're not going to recommend or give out gangtags for donating to charities or orgs that supply military equipment. There are nine good charities listed in the OP, if you want a gangtag pick one of those. It's as simple as that. If you don't like that setup, well, you don't get a gangtag I guess?
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SourKraut posted:Donated some to Mokotow for his use however, and also donated to the Red Cross: Sorry to be a pest, but are a bunch of gangtags still pending/queued? Not a rush since I know you're all busy.
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SourKraut posted:Sorry to be a pest, but are a bunch of gangtags still pending/queued? Not a rush since I know you're all busy. Yes, still pending. We paused for a couple weeks because they were getting quickly wiped by av changes. I'll get another round queued this evening.
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thekeeshman posted:Do you really think that the hypothetical threat of far-right groups in the future is in any way comparable to the current killing, raping, kidnapping, and just general grab bag of atrocities being committed by the current Russian army, which has a long and consistent history of being in every way terrible and barely better than the actual WW2 Nazis? Nothing any far-right group in Europe has done since literally WW2 has been anywhere near as horrifyingly destructive as the current Russian war crimes, and nothing is making the far-right look better by the minute than the ongoing Russian war crimes. Holocaust revisionism not even worth a sixer it seems
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paul_soccer12 posted:Holocaust revisionism not even worth a sixer it seems Just report it next time. Its not your job to patrol the thread, thanks.
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CommieGIR posted:Just report it next time. Its not your job to patrol the thread, thanks. gently caress you (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The actual confirmation page apparently redirects after a few seconds, so here's a shot for my most recent donation. Edit: In case clarification is needed, I would like a gang tag. Olesh fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Apr 6, 2022 |
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 Donated to UNICEF, tag me please. Was going to donate to the Ukraine Red Cross, but the cyber orks don't like that apparently. 
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CommieGIR posted:Yes, still pending. We paused for a couple weeks because they were getting quickly wiped by av changes. I'll get another round queued this evening. Oh no worries, was just curious, thanks! 
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Didn't know there was a thread for this! Donated a few bucks at the start of the invasion to UN Humanitarian Relief and the Kyiv Independent/other Ukrainian news orgs:   Wouldn't mind a tag if those are still being divvied out. Going to set up a monthly recurring donation to UN Humanitarian relief, I really respect the incredible work they do all across the world. e: Set up a monthly recurring 20$ donation to UNICEF:  Also chipped in another 50$ to World Central Kitchen, they have hundreds of sites set up in Ukraine to feed people and in Poland for refugees. Andre Jose has done really good work in the past, including in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria.  Thanks for reminding me that there's more good work that can be, and needs to be done Catatron Prime fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Apr 5, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:Just report it next time. Its not your job to patrol the thread, thanks. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I'm shocked by this thread. Usually you Corbynite wannabe socialists are pro Russia. Good to see you don't think everyone should die in cold blood. That's some learning. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PERMABANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Humphreys posted:Sure is a backlog on gangtags... Yeah. It's odd.
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1k CAD to MSF and 1k CAD to Voices of Children
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$500 USD to Voices of Children. I’ll edit in a screen shot whenever they send over a receipt. Could I get all my current gang tags removed instead of getting one? Edit: 
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.Z. posted:$500 USD to Voices of Children. I’ll edit in a screen shot whenever they send over a receipt. Done.
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No gangtag please, but you can add it to the total.
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The  about Razom, et al. from bad faith posters is really something.If you want proof about the good work they're doing, check out their website and don't believe some doofus faux leftist qanon poo poo. https://razomforukraine.org/razom-emergency-response/ (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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ummel posted:The Do you know what a Banderite is (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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