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bull3964 posted:Pittsburgh airport is currently starting a $1.1 billion renovation that's to going to ultimately shrink the airport down, eliminating the seperate landside and airside terminal and getting rid of a bunch of gates. I know I was being snarky about pittsburgh but I actually really like going there. It's a real time capsule and I love how it's built into the surrounding hills. I'll be really sad when they tear down the airside terminal because I get such a hit of 90s nostalgia when I'm in there. Plus the robot repair shop is dope af. 
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Yeah I'm always surprised about how empty PIT is but also that means it's kinda just a pleasant place to be, in a way that airports rarely are
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Mar 25, 2022 16:37
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Arson Daily posted:Milwaukee has a huge amount of gate space that's just sitting around unused to the point where they've removed the jetways. On the other hand, Milwaukee has the finest airport book store in the world.
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Mar 25, 2022 17:34
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hobbesmaster posted:If you really want to see an airport hosed over by losing its hub status go to Memphis. It’s so sad these days. Last time I had a layover there I walked out the gate to an empty and dark terminal, went to the bathroom and only a few lights worked... It was weird. Had a very Langoliers feeling to it.
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Mar 25, 2022 18:12
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I don't have really fond memories of Pittsburgh myself but I don't have bad memories either so it mustn't have been too terrible. I remember bad airports. yyz immediately comes to mind.
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Mar 25, 2022 19:35
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I’m lucky to usually be going YVR <-> SFO, both of which I find to be fine, sensible, clean airports.
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Mar 25, 2022 19:51
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slidebite posted:I remember bad airports. yyz immediately comes to mind. Yes, but it has the best soundtrack, so it's fine.
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Mar 25, 2022 20:53
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slidebite posted:I don't have really fond memories of Pittsburgh myself but I don't have bad memories either so it mustn't have been too terrible. Yeah, it’s about 2 minutes too long.
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Mar 25, 2022 20:59
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hobbesmaster posted:If you really want to see an airport hosed over by losing its hub status go to Memphis. It’s so sad these days. this was STL last time I flew through there so we can credit TWA for ruining two airports, first Kansas City and then STL, powerful move from an airline long gone KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:PY(Least)F terminal: That one part of Chicago Midway where you have to walk through a narrow little hallway for an extremely long time and then you get to this little extra-wide spot in the hallway where they wedged in two gates, A4A/A4B Psion fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Mar 25, 2022 22:18
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Terminal 5 at O’Hare has a similar gate now and it sucks.
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Mar 25, 2022 22:31
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priznat posted:I’m lucky to usually be going YVR <-> SFO, both of which I find to be fine, sensible, clean airports. I quite like yvr too. Yyc *was* basically a flashback to 1979 but the last time I flew was through the renovated area and it was pretty nice. I'm not sure if that project's done yet or not
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hobbesmaster posted:If you really want to see an airport hosed over by losing its hub status go to Memphis. It’s so sad these days. The Memphis airport terminal B (I think) was recently updated. As in , just finished construction and opened it up to travelers 2 or 3 weeks ago. It's super nice and way less sad (and langolier-y) than before. But it was super depressing when northwest got bought by Delta, and then Delta killed the hub after pinky swearing they wouldn't.
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Internet Savant posted:and then Delta killed the hub after pinky swearing they wouldn't. Isn't this just airlinermergers.txt
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Internet Savant posted:The Memphis airport terminal B (I think) was recently updated. As in , just finished construction and opened it up to travelers 2 or 3 weeks ago. It's super nice and way less sad (and langolier-y) than before. Cincinnati, Memphis, Atlanta, Detroit with RDU as a focus city was never going to be sustainable so I’m not sure anyone truly believed Delta there.
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Mar 26, 2022 06:00
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There is no hell like CLT. Despite the new wing of Concourse A, the airport simply wasn't built for having 12% of the population of the southeastern US shoved through it every day. The new construction projects for the ticketing lobby and arrivals area aren't going to fix that. And half the vendors are still closed so eating or drinking is impossible without three hours to wait. This problem was exacerbated this week when one of the food vendors in the atrium caught on drat fire. At least there's a Centurion Lounge? 🤷
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Beef Of Ages posted:There is no hell like CLT. My favorite part of Charlotte is that no matter what flight you come in on, and what flight you're leaving on, you WILL be separated by a minimum of literally every single gate on that terminal. Arrived A36? Your connection is either at A1, or (more likely,) its in C terminal.
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MrYenko posted:My favorite part of Charlotte is that no matter what flight you come in on, and what flight you're leaving on, you WILL be separated by a minimum of literally every single gate on that terminal. Arrived A36? Your connection is either at A1, or (more likely,) its in C terminal. But rocking chairs . . . ?
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JohnCompany posted:But rocking chairs . . . ? Which are overrun by thousands of people and constantly catching the tail of the dog sitting next to them. I've been in 132 different airports around the world and CLT is the only one where I've seen people paying no attention whatsoever to the dog they're dragging on a leash that is actively making GBS threads. Twice.
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Mar 26, 2022 16:32
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Psion posted:That one part of Chicago Midway where you have to walk through a narrow little hallway for an extremely long time and then you get to this little extra-wide spot in the hallway where they wedged in two gates, A4A/A4B Things were so tight at MDW even after the new terminal was built (which I still can't believe was able to be constructed while the old one was still in use) that ATA begged for/paid for the hallway and A4A/B. It sucked as there was no place to sit and no retail, but we needed as many gates as we could get at the time. I'm sure SWA appreciates the forward thinking that ATA did for them.[/stillbitter]
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Beef Of Ages posted:There is no hell like CLT. You and I have had markedly different experiences at CLT, but I guess the preponderance of my flights through there have been layovers so maybe I’m hitting the right time of day and don’t have to worry about security so it’s not so bad. I usually just hang out in A since there’s no one over there in the section past the Panera. It is funny to me though how A-C are all new and modern and then you wander down to D and E and it’s just… woof. The regional jet area is probably one of the worst parts of an airport I’ve ever been in. As far as good airport changes go, I like that they moved security at DCA so that everything is airside now. It gives you a lot more room to roam when waiting, and I’ve always thought that the main hall was gorgeous so getting to spend more time in it is a plus.
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hobbesmaster posted:Cincinnati, Memphis, Atlanta, Detroit with RDU as a focus city was never going to be sustainable so I’m not sure anyone truly believed Delta there. I don't think anyone did. The writing was on the wall.
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MrYenko posted:My favorite part of Charlotte is that no matter what flight you come in on, and what flight you're leaving on, you WILL be separated by a minimum of literally every single gate on that terminal. Arrived A36? Your connection is either at A1, or (more likely,) its in C terminal. Lol this happened to me the other week. I was going RDU to PHX on American and had to dash from A to C with literally the beginning of boarding as my connection window. On the way back? C gate right across from my arrival…
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CLT was fine until they tore out that beautiful ugly carpet in that one terminal.
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I don't mind the CLT terminal too much. Yeah you have to transfer concourses a lot but it's compact enough that I've never had more than a 10 minute walk between gates. The only real problem I have with it is that all the resturants seem to close at about 6PM so it's hard to find quick food in the evening because the few open resturants all have huge lines. CLT ramp however is a clusterfuck. 3 controllers, dozens of airplanes , and no rules, except for the ones which are unwritten. Has anyone been to the new A/B terminals in LGA yet? I've heard good things which is weird because good things don't belong at LGA.
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AAs insistence that a 35 minute connection is acceptable in CLT is the biggest issue.
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One of my more recent trips to Charlotte. Land and sit on the taxiway for nearly an hour. Pilot comes on and says we are waiting for a gate. Another 20 minutes pass and he comes on and says “We’ve been told we can use a different gate, so we’re going to head there now.” 10 minutes trundling along. Pull up to the gate, we’re all hooked up, everyone is waiting in anticipation to get off. Pilot: They’ve told us we’re too long for this gate (it was an A320), so we’re going to have to push back again and move to a different gate. 10 minutes of getting the scenic tour of the airport later. We pull up to the gate. It’s all hooked up. Pilot: “I really can’t believe this, but there was JUST a ground lightning strike a few miles away and the ground crew can’t come out. So even though we’re here, we aren’t secure to let you off the plane.” Finally about 10 minutes later the door opened up. Time in air from Pittsburgh, about 58 minutes. Time on ground at Charlotte after landing before I got off the plane, 1 hour 43 minutes. Given the time getting to the airport, parking, security, and then the ride from the airport to my destination, I would have been 2/3rds of the way there if I would have just driven.
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CLT deicing was a total cluster the one time I've ever had to do it and I'm sure it was all because the de icing guys never get to actually do it. We got lucky because there was no line but it still took close to an hour to do the whole airplane. They were apologetic and nice as hell though so I don't fault them any.
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FunOne posted:AAs insistence that a 35 minute connection is acceptable in CLT is the biggest issue. ATL is the only airport you can reliably make ridiculously tight connections at.
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hobbesmaster posted:ATL is the only airport you can reliably make ridiculously tight connections at. The train certainly gave me a very nice impression the one time I was there.
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The important part is that it goes through the middle of all the concourses so you can never be more than what 5 minutes from the gate or a train?
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bull3964 posted:Pilot: “I really can’t believe this, but there was JUST a ground lightning strike a few miles away and the ground crew can’t come out. So even though we’re here, we aren’t secure to let you off the plane.” I was at an exercise at Davis Monthan AFB last year and on one event we got stuck on the ground by a thunderstorm for about an hour and a half. We managed to get engines online before it rolled in, but then lightning started up and we had to send the ground crew back inside. Eventually it blew through and we were able to go do the mission, but on the way back the tower was warning people to avoid a certain section of the runway because a lightning strike had blasted a hole in it. Amusingly, our pilots do all their communication with the ground crew via hand signals, and it turns out there's no commonly understood hand signal for "there's lightning all around us, get the gently caress back inside" so they were standing around confused for a little while as we were frantically trying to send them away.
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KodiakRS posted:CLT ramp however is a clusterfuck. 3 controllers, dozens of airplanes , and no rules, except for the ones which are unwritten. EVERY connection in CLT involves a 20-40 elephant walk down the taxiway because there is no rhyme or reason to who takes off/lands first.
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Beef Of Ages posted:Which are overrun by thousands of people and constantly catching the tail of the dog sitting next to them. Why are there dogs in an airport terminal?
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~Coxy posted:Why are there dogs in an airport terminal? ~*eMoTiOnAl SuPpOrT aNiMaLs*~ I bet. Real service animals don't do that kind of thing even if they're insanely stressed out.
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~Coxy posted:Why are there dogs in an airport terminal? Some people travel with their pets and, if nothing else, they're less likely to boil/freeze to death inside the plane. Its been over a decade since I last read the rules but I think the list of animals allowed as carry-on luggage included cats, dogs under a certain weight, and pot-bellied pigs.
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bull3964 posted:One of my more recent trips to Charlotte. if only we could build a nationwide high speed rail network.
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Charles posted:if only we could build a nationwide high speed rail network. yeah we’re the size of japan so it’ll totally work here
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Charles posted:if only we could build a nationwide high speed rail network. A high-speed rail network across this country would look like we let Jeffy from Family Circus draw it due to having to route around corporate farmland.
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I understand the appeal of a high speed train system, I've used them in China and Europe, and they're great. But if you came to me as a tax payer and laid out the enormous effort it would be to get them installed in the US vs. improving our air infrastructure then air wins every time in my mind. Need more capacity? Add more planes. Need to go somewhere else? Just point the plane there instead. Cargo? No problem. People? No problem.
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