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Danish government is having a press conference announcing an expected 100,000+ refugees from Ukraine. The first press questions are making me think that the recent empathy for Ukrainian refugees is officially over, and we can return to our regularly scheduled anti-immigrant politics.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Danish government is having a press conference announcing an expected 100,000+ refugees from Ukraine. Danes: "Ok but how many of them are carrying jewelry or watches that we can
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 14:20 |
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The youth wing of the Danish conservatives (briefly) held the position that membership of LGBT+ Denmark was grounds for exclusion. They've done a complete 180 since this morning, and no one from either the main party org or the youth wing itself has any comments. Not that it makes a difference but in case anyone didn't know, the leader of the party came out as gay in 2014, shortly before being elected. in short: lol
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lilljonas posted:Danes: "Ok but how many of them are carrying jewelry or watches that we can They're exempt from that.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:16 |
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SplitSoul posted:They're exempt from that.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:33 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:First Romani refugee from Ukraine, and we'll be confiscating all belongings refugees can't show provenance for dating back at least 100 years.
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jeebus bob posted:The youth wing of the Danish conservatives (briefly) held the position that membership of LGBT+ Denmark was grounds for exclusion. I mean, lol, but isn't the point that that LGBT+ Denmark is a known leftist extremist organisation incompatible with conservative values such as "being gay is fine, as long as you otherwise conform to heteronormativity"? Like, Pape might be gay, but he's not exactly flaming. It's an extension of homosexuality having become so accepted that some gay cismen have forgotten that they were a minority, and now they just go all in on being anti-queer because gently caress you, got mine.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:47 |
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Oh for sure, and the original statement from conservative youth made it clear that the decision was about opposing the leftist stance of another org, but it did not make it clear that it WASN'T also about lgbtq issues in general. Just piss poor communication and optics, even considering it's a youth-led group.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 20:52 |
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jeebus bob posted:Oh for sure, and the original statement from conservative youth made it clear that the decision was about opposing the leftist stance of another org, but it did not make it clear that it WASN'T also about lgbtq issues in general. Just piss poor communication and optics, even considering it's a youth-led group. Not the worst optics KU has ever put on display, to be fair.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 21:11 |
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Ok so Nye Borgerliges youth wing just decided to fill the recently vacated niche by releasing a copy-paste of the offending statement but with their own name at the top. Not particularly surprising really, since NB's political philosophy is to troll for attention by saying the most dickish thing at the most opportune time, but I hate how good they are at it.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 21:26 |
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jeebus bob posted:Ok so Nye Borgerliges youth wing That is not the preferred nomenclature, dude. "Jugend", please.
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I hate election year.M(orons) posted:Att socialdemokraterna inte arbetar stenhårt för Sveriges bästa är problematiskt. Men det viktigaste för M är att sänka drivmedelspriset med minst 5 kronor vid pump. Det kan man göra på olika sätt”, säger Elisabeth Svantesson i en kommentar till TT. Never mind the fact that the EU said "lol no you can not lower the taxes below the agreed upon EU lower bound, idiots". WE DEMAND IT. I guess Swexit is back on the table, if this is the hill the right wants to die on. E: also laffo at the implications that M needs S to be the adult in the room, since they themselves are busy prioritizing fossile fuel. Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Mar 26, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1507686173002670091 I figured things were bad, but I didn't think it was "lmao, almost as many dead swedes (per capita) as the rest of the nordic countries put together".
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# ? Mar 26, 2022 20:01 |
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Potrzebie posted:I hate election year. Elisabeth Svantesson is incredibly dense, but not denser than the voting public.
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# ? Mar 26, 2022 20:46 |
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Mymla posted:https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1507686173002670091 A lot of this confirms what I felt throughout the pandemic, and states certain aspects about Swedish culture that I’ve witnessed but couldn’t put into words without sounding insane*. I also wonder as to how COVID is/was handled is indicative of a greater issue within government and related agencies, because much like a cockroach, if you see one, there are far more lurking in the shadows. Anyhow as I live on planet earth, I know little is going to change or get better. But, at least this is out there and collated in a fairly approachable way. Nonetheless, does anyone have any more resources in reading about Sverigebilden? *I could also just be insane regardless
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# ? Mar 26, 2022 20:57 |
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The whole mess has been so staggeringly stupid, even by swedish "standards". I'm not in any way surprised of anything anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NAzfX3fljs
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# ? Mar 27, 2022 01:13 |
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Cleptocracy planners baffled: making a huge hospital of mostly glass, with no bomb shelters, and instead pocketing money through grifts might be a bad idea when you neighbour countries that loves bombing hospitals. https://www.dn.se/sverige/nybyggda-nya-karolinska-saknar-skyddsrum/
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teen witch posted:A lot of this confirms what I felt throughout the pandemic, and states certain aspects about Swedish culture that I’ve witnessed but couldn’t put into words without sounding insane*. teen witch posted:I also wonder as to how COVID is/was handled is indicative of a greater issue within government and related agencies, because much like a cockroach, if you see one, there are far more lurking in the shadows. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Hopefully those plans include skyddsrum in Nya Karolinska hospital or else that would look really irresponsible!!!!
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 13:55 |
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Wait, Tegnell's supposed new WHO job doesn't exist? What the gently caress is going on?
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 15:14 |
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SplitSoul posted:Wait, Tegnell's supposed new WHO job doesn't exist? What the gently caress is going on?
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SplitSoul posted:Wait, Tegnell's supposed new WHO job doesn't exist? What the gently caress is going on? Wait what? Did he lie about getting another job? Why would he do that?
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evil_bunnY posted:Let's put it this way, after we saw how the guv handled covid our emergency/contingency planning+preparedness has changed *drastically*. I wonder if it’s similar to how we reacted after the last global disaster, the 2008 financial crises? By similar I mean; put the same idiots that caused the devastation in the fist place in charge of the survival of the planet, using the exact same logic and tools. The laughably ineffectual, neoliberal (but I repeat myself), co2 quotas. Tegnell WHO? No? I guess we should be thankful.
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 15:54 |
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Kamrat posted:Wait what? Did he lie about getting another job? Why would he do that? https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/fhm-det-var-ett-missforstand quote:Härom veckan meddelade Folkhälsomyndigheten att Anders Tegnell lämnar uppdraget som statsepidemiolog för att i stället arbeta med vaccinfrågor åt Världshälsoorganisationen (WHO). Nu backar myndigheten.
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 16:38 |
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Lol, lmao even. I hope he never gets work outside Sweden.
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 16:57 |
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Thanks... lol at everything
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 16:58 |
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jeebus bob posted:Lol, lmao even. I hope he never gets work outside Sweden. ...Or in
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 18:50 |
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I would hope that WHO is aware of recent events enough that they wouldn't even invite Mr. Llenget from Sweden to personal interview. Really he should be hiding in Argentina with Dr. Mengele at this point.
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 19:05 |
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Nenonen posted:I would hope that WHO is aware of recent events enough that they wouldn't even invite Mr. Llenget from Sweden to personal interview. Really he should be hiding in Argentina with Dr. Mengele at this point. WHO hasn't exactly shown itself to be the quickest on the uptake regarding COVID. It wasn't until this month they officially recommended boosters.
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lol
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SplitSoul posted:WHO hasn't exactly shown itself to be the quickest on the uptake regarding COVID. It wasn't until this month they officially recommended boosters. Which is quite understandable when a large share of the world still haven't had their first shots. Rich countries are only looking after their own population which leaves the virus spread and evolve freely in the third world.
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 19:57 |
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Nenonen posted:Which is quite understandable when a large share of the world still haven't had their first shots. Rich countries are only looking after their own population which leaves the virus spread and evolve freely in the third world. True, but it's not like abstaining would magically transfer those doses abroad, loving over the global south (again) was decided upon over a year ago.
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 20:05 |
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Isn't this after all pyrrhic, since the government found its own response to be completely fine? I mean I feel like these last 2 years were a turning point for just about any expat in Sweden in realizing that the Swedish government isn't what they thought it was. But looking even at the authors of the paper, it seems to be mostly written by expats, and looking at the criticism it has received, it's largely from nationalists and not in the traditional right-wing nationalist concept, but something a bit more spread out politically. Although Jesus Christ remember that guy who got Tegnell's face tattooed on his arm?
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# ? Mar 28, 2022 20:07 |
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fnox posted:the government found its own response to be completely fine It didn't, though.
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TheFluff posted:It didn't, though. Sorry, should’ve said “fundamentally correct”.
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fnox posted:Sorry, should’ve said “fundamentally correct”.
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BonHair posted:I honestly believe it's a conflation of anti imperialism and anti Americanism. Opposing American cultural hegemony is a good cause, but you can't just assume that anyone who shares that goal is an ally. Especially if it's a literal fascist state like Russia (or China). Joe Biden said he would stop US assistance of the Saudi war in Yemen. He lied of course. The UN estimates that 250.000 children have died due the Saudi blockade (and bombings) of Yemen. Everything 100% backed by the US (and Swedish military equipment). Do you think it’s a coincidence that you’re very worried about Putin and Xi Jinping and not Mohammed bin Salman?
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Hedenius posted:Joe Biden said he would stop US assistance of the Saudi war in Yemen. He lied of course. The UN estimates that 250.000 children have died due the Saudi blockade (and bombings) of Yemen. Everything 100% backed by the US (and Swedish military equipment). Putin controls a (currently) essential piece of European energy production and Xi controls most electronic components and a bunch of other stuff that Scandinavia depends on. Al-Saud may control a bunch of oil production, but we are not dependent on him in quite the same way, not least because we don't have stationary infrastructure (gas/oil pipes) connecting us. Also he doesn't have nukes, but that's less important actually. I'm not worried (in the sense of being afraid) about Saudi Arabia because, big picture, they aren't a threat to me Of course, I absolutely agree that what's been happening in Yemen for years is probably orders of magnitude worse than Ukraine, and we should absolutely stop sending weapons, supporting them and just stop trade relations altogether. But that has nothing to do with Putin being a real threat to Scandinavia. Also, can we put Biden/USA on the list of states to worry about?
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# ? Mar 29, 2022 20:05 |
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Hedenius posted:Joe Biden said he would stop US assistance of the Saudi war in Yemen. He lied of course. The UN estimates that 250.000 children have died due the Saudi blockade (and bombings) of Yemen. Everything 100% backed by the US (and Swedish military equipment). Also 13,000 newborns dead from malnutrition in Afghanistan since January, because Biden seized the country's currency reserves on the rear end end of the U.S.'s own disastrous war. Spreading them freedoms and liberal democratic values, baby!
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BonHair posted:Also, can we put Biden/USA on the list of states to worry about? WAAAAAAY ahead of you on that one
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