|
fuctifino posted:The Russian 'pranksters' released the video call to UK Home Secretary Priti Patel. Looking at that man’s Twitter I can see a person who has a severe case of brainworms or CTE.
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 02:03 |
|
|
NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:Indeed. For those not in the know, Patel goes on immigration raids in her spare time to cheer herself up, and spent some money on her hobby by having special police vest made up that says HOME SECRETARY on it. She also says she'd deport her own parents if they arrived now.  graphic retelling of the horror of mariupol from a neonatal physician. No pictures. https://twitter.com/B0e9oUqxh9cPcsA/status/1507605083814514688 Really weird handle though
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:42
|
|
|
Marshal Prolapse posted:Looking at that man’s Twitter I can see a person who has a severe case of brainworms or CTE. His twitter account is flagged 'Russia state-affiliated media', so yeah....
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:46
|
|
|
Video hosting is terribly expensive and the only sizeable free provider, YouTube, is only marginally profitable because of its immense size and monopolistic market power. All other video platforms rely on upload fees or subscriptions. I don’t think you could run a profitable platform with a Russian audience.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:47
|
|
|
Djarum posted:It's likely that they can't ban Youtube without losing access to most of Google and the web in general. That’s not it, Turkey did for years with little other ill effect on Google services really. Someone reported Wikipedia downloads were up: very sensible to me because Wikipedia was blocked for years in Turkey cause of insults to a dear leader
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:52
|
|
|
Honj Steak posted:Video hosting is terribly expensive and the only sizeable free provider, YouTube, is only marginally profitable because of its immense size and monopolistic market power. All other video platforms rely on upload fees or subscriptions. I don’t think you could run a profitable platform with a Russian audience. You could run it a lower operating cost by using quotas (on viewing) and using quality limits on streams. Low-quality video streaming takes up significantly less bandwidth and storage. So a nationalized, low-cost version would be an embarrassing symbol of technological and economical discrepancy towards the rest of the world. Instead, If Russia remains isolated, I expect Chinese social media to fill the void of any long-term banned/sanctioned services.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:53
|
|
|
fatherboxx posted:Russia tried funding homegrown alternative to Youtube, Rutube, but, as usual, most of investment was swindled and the result is horribly slow and unpopular service that even "patriots" dont give poo poo about. Any nasheed enjoyers ITT? The last time I saw one of those they apparently used an anti-Assad one, so I’m curious if this is another well thought out one.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:57
|
|
|
fatherboxx posted:Russia tried funding homegrown alternative to Youtube, Rutube, but, as usual, most of investment was swindled and the result is horribly slow and unpopular service that even "patriots" dont give poo poo about. As flawed as democracy often feels lately, it's a little relieving to be reminded other forms of government also have their own horrible issues.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 21:58
|
|
|
PederP posted:You could run it a lower operating cost by using quotas (on viewing) and using quality limits on streams. Low-quality video streaming takes up significantly less bandwidth and storage. So a nationalized, low-cost version would be an embarrassing symbol of technological and economical discrepancy towards the rest of the world. Instead, If Russia remains isolated, I expect Chinese social media to fill the void of any long-term banned/sanctioned services. Edge caches are cheaper if you have less content.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:03
|
|
|
fuctifino posted:His twitter account is flagged 'Russia state-affiliated media', so yeah.... The pranksters are legit - Kremlin-affiliated, but this is far from the first hoax they pull off on a senior western government official. PederP posted:You could run it a lower operating cost by using quotas (on viewing) and using quality limits on streams. Low-quality video streaming takes up significantly less bandwidth and storage. So a nationalized, low-cost version would be an embarrassing symbol of technological and economical discrepancy towards the rest of the world. Instead, If Russia remains isolated, I expect Chinese social media to fill the void of any long-term banned/sanctioned services. The thing I was sarcastically leaning into with my post was what Fatherboxx said - Russian state is simply incompetent in many aspects, and the propaganda machine is utterly dependent on the western tech industry. If YT is blocked - people under 50 will have to VPN into it, and will suddenly start seeing completely different picture.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:04
|
|
|
PederP posted:You could run it a lower operating cost by using quotas (on viewing) and using quality limits on streams. This has already been tried and its not really successful due to the fact you have to lower the video quality so much it looks like poo poo + service in general is degraded so much no one wants to use it. As far as I know the closest thing to successful that anyone has gotten with this idea is Bitchute (they changed their model up a while back though, used to heavily based off users hosting vid content with a bittorrentish set up) and its a absolute cesspit both in terms of quality of service and content (super infested with racists and right wing conspiracies).
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:07
|
|
|
Captain Kosmos posted:It's big, one journalist who was running an independent news station said that they cant shut down Youtube cause it's so huge, everyone uses it families watch Masha and bear there and that's the only example that I remember, cause my kids also watched Masha and bear, there's also buttload other Russian kids cartoons there. My partner is of Russian ethnicity and most of her family lives in Russia nowadays and she says the same thing, it's just too big. It's the same deal with WhatsApp, even Meta is banned there WhatsApp still works. the most viewed youtube video which isn't music is this episode of masha and the bear, where masha makes pink goo four and a half billion views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYniUCGPGLs
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:08
|
|
|
PederP posted:This is a pretty bold claim: I think he's being a bit optimistic. Ukrainian troops are active in the Kherson Oblast, specifically cleaning up the area north of the Dnipro, but I don't think they're very close to Kherson city yet. I'd love to be wrong, mind you.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:08
|
|
|
fuctifino posted:His twitter account is flagged 'Russia state-affiliated media', so yeah.... Yep, some dipshit in DC who works for goddamn Sputnik International.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:16
|
|
|
NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:Indeed. For those not in the know, Patel goes on immigration raids in her spare time to cheer herself up, and spent some money on her hobby by having special police vest made up that says HOME SECRETARY on it. She also says she'd deport her own parents if they arrived now. Another important fact about Patel is she got fired by the last PM for going on trips to meet Israeli ministers without letting anyone else in the government know, but Boris immediately brought her back in when he came to power.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:31
|
|
|
Marshal Prolapse posted:Yep, some dipshit in DC who works for goddamn Sputnik International. Also wrote “coach” when he meant “coax”.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:37
|
|
|
Deteriorata posted:It's not one to be imitated - it would have been better to leave Putin isolated over it. International relations should not be like a kindergarten playground if serious agreements are going to be made. This is almost laughable to me. You're talking like there isn't already a state of war, like there is some hope words could de-escalate things at this point. We have placed crippling sanctions and coordinated the entire western world to economically and militarily crush russia's ambitions with hundreds of millions of dollars of weapons. I think Putin and the whole world already knows we want him out, stinger missiles speak louder than words. Plus when you initiate an imperialist war of aggression against a peaceful neighbor you don't really get to play the hurt feelings card. edit: the playground analogy is particularly inapt, because while international diplomacy can seem like playground trash talk, actual war is the farthest thing from child's play, it is deadly serious and actions are almost all that matters (especially against an implacable enemy like Putin). Hell, if anything a strident posture helps to unify western support and signal our total commitment to the cause. What's the worst that happens on the Russia side, Putin supporters hate the US even more? Big deal, Russian hearts and minds (except one) don't decide when this war ends. Putin isn't the only one who benefits from projecting strength. Magic Underwear fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Mar 26, 2022 |
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:47
|
|
|
Panzerknacker is a great word
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:51
|
|
|
Magic Underwear posted:This is almost laughable to me. You're talking like there isn't already a state of war, like there is some hope words could de-escalate things at this point. We have placed crippling sanctions and coordinated the entire western world to economically and militarily crush russia's ambitions with hundreds of millions of dollars of weapons. I think Putin and the whole world already knows we want him out, stinger missiles speak louder than words. Plus when a country initiates an imperialist war of aggression against a peaceful neighbor you don't really get to play the decorum card. You're confusing the general case with the specific. National leaders routinely calling for the removal of the leaders of other nations is bad for international relations. It has nothing to do with Putin specifically.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:52
|
|
|
Deteriorata posted:It sets a rather bad diplomatic precedent. It is not good for long-term stability if the leaders of countries start openly calling for the ouster of other countries' leaders. It works against mutual cooperation and respect. Wow great question. Why ISN'T the US cooperating with Russia in its annexation of Ukraine? Just a total lack of respect shown.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:53
|
|
|
Leader and commander of the Ukr volunteer battalion "Freikorps", Georgiy Tarasenko, has fallen in battle near Kharkiv.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 22:58
|
|
|
Deteriorata posted:You're confusing the general case with the specific. National leaders routinely calling for the removal of the leaders of other nations is bad for international relations. It has nothing to do with Putin specifically. Did anyone say we should routinely call for the removal of leaders? I thought your argument was that Biden's statement was bad for the reasons you said. During peacetime of course it would be belligerent. But as I said we are at war and that changes everything.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:01
|
|
|
PederP posted:This is a pretty bold claim: I'd be surprised if they were already there, but I have as suspicion that when they get to Kherson, the Russians will basically retreat out of it without a fight. Defending in a friendly city is a tactical advantage, defending in an occupied city surrounded by hostile locals you've failed to pacify sounds like a death sentence.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:02
|
|
|
Pavlov posted:I'd be surprised if they were already there, but I have as suspicion that when they get to Kherson, the Russians will basically retreat out of it without a fight. Defending in a friendly city is a tactical advantage, defending in an occupied city surrounded by hostile locals you've failed to pacify sounds like a death sentence. Not E: Before, not after. THE BAR fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Mar 26, 2022 |
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:04
|
|
|
Charlotte Hornets posted:Leader and commander of the Ukr volunteer battalion "Freikorps", Georgiy Tarasenko, has fallen in battle near Kharkiv. hmm, not familiar with the outfit, but based on the unit name i find a hard time feeling bad about that particular death
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:05
|
|
|
Deteriorata posted:You're confusing the general case with the specific. National leaders routinely calling for the removal of the leaders of other nations is bad for international relations. It has nothing to do with Putin specifically. Okay, but, like, is anyone talking about the routine case? It sort of seems like the conversation was that Biden said "You know, folks, that Putin feller sure is full of baloney". Clearly this is not the general case. There's no need to pearl clutch that in an alternate universe where we were instead talking about Wayne Rooney, Prime Minister of Sunken England, calls for the removal of Mark Rutte in over a disagreement about tariffs on cycling helmets. Yes, very well, I agree that if it was not a conversation about an authoritarian pariah doing war crimes in the parking lot, it would be bad form for a head of state to be so thoroughly undignified.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:06
|
|
|
PederP posted:This is a pretty bold claim: ... Unless OSINT guys have hosed up bad, there are ~6000 Russians in or around Kherson. What the gently caress. Deteriorata posted:I think he's being a bit optimistic. Ukrainian troops are active in the Kherson Oblast, specifically cleaning up the area north of the Dnipro, but I don't think they're very close to Kherson city yet. On the M14 road from Mykolaiv, the closest they have been definitely located at is at Posad-Pokrovska which is ~24km from Chornobaivka and ~33km from downtown Kherson. This was several days ago. Agree that this sounds very optimistic indeed.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:11
|
|
|
Biden said nothing wrong. This conflict continues, ceasefire or not, until Putin is out of power.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:15
|
|
|
Young Freud posted:The Russian tanks that they're fighting are about $2 million to $5 million dollars, maybe more with upgrades and retrofits, so it's definitely worth it. It is still a little depressing to realize that each boom is the equivalent of the average yearly income of 100 Ukrainians.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:19
|
|
|
PC LOAD LETTER posted:This has already been tried and its not really successful due to the fact you have to lower the video quality so much it looks like poo poo + service in general is degraded so much no one wants to use it. And yeah the problem with anything that’s moderation free or very light on moderation is that you get all the people who can’t exist on the platforms that are actually moderated, and then they scare away normal people who don’t like being next to Nazis.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:24
|
|
|
Charlotte Hornets posted:Leader and commander of the Ukr volunteer battalion "Freikorps", Georgiy Tarasenko, has fallen in battle near Kharkiv. Do you have a reliable source? I can't find any source that has anything to back it up at all.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:24
|
|
|
Kchama posted:Do you have a reliable source? I can't find any source that has anything to back it up at all. https://t.me/s/freikorps_org Their telegram channel
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:34
|
|
|
Pavlov posted:I'd be surprised if they were already there, but I have as suspicion that when they get to Kherson, the Russians will basically retreat out of it without a fight. Defending in a friendly city is a tactical advantage, defending in an occupied city surrounded by hostile locals you've failed to pacify sounds like a death sentence. If the Russians are serious about refocusing on the east, then abandoning Kherson and sitting behind the Dniepr wouldn't be crazy.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:35
|
|
|
Magic Underwear posted:Did anyone say we should routinely call for the removal of leaders? I thought your argument was that Biden's statement was bad for the reasons you said. During peacetime of course it would be belligerent. But as I said we are at war and that changes everything. Pretty sure America isn't at war with Russia right now.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:39
|
|
|
Tuna-Fish posted:Javelins are way out of the price range of most nations that buy Russian gear. There's no way Ukraine would be using them as widely as they are if they weren't getting them for free. Turkey's going to be selling a lot of drones though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:45
|
|
|
kemikalkadet posted:Pretty sure America isn't at war with Russia right now. This is just the most tedious, least interesting possible way to drag out an already extremely boring and shallow conversation.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:46
|
|
|
Charlotte Hornets posted:https://t.me/s/freikorps_org Maybe I should have specified: Do you have a reliable source for the sentence you posted with zero source? Like, link the actual post or whatever instead of expecting me to sift through it all. Cuz I can't find a post about it.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:50
|
|
|
MikeC posted:If the Russians are serious about refocusing on the east, then abandoning Kherson and sitting behind the Dniepr wouldn't be crazy. For one thing, it’d be a significant challenge to shift units from Belarus and northern Ukraine back east. Edit: to be fair, some Ukr sources are confirming the main russian BTGs are shifting east, leaving behind the conscript Donetsk/Luhansk troops to be grinded. Mokotow fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 26, 2022 |
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:50
|
|
|
MikeC posted:If the Russians are serious about refocusing on the east, then abandoning Kherson and sitting behind the Dniepr wouldn't be crazy. Giving up a potential negotiating chip and one of their only significant gains seems pretty crazy to me. It's much easier to defend territory than seize it.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:54
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 02:03 |
|
|
Kchama posted:Maybe I should have specified: Do you have a reliable source for the sentence you posted with zero source? Like, link the actual post or whatever instead of expecting me to sift through it all. Cuz I can't find a post about it. I clicked that link. This was the most recent post (google translated) quote:Georgy Tarasenko, the leader and commander of the Freikor Volunteer Unit, was killed in the battle defending his native Kharkiv region.
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2022 23:54
|
|