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Vitruvian Manic posted:it wouldn't be out of place for a day to day ottoman Era assassination. The fact that Aladdin has the same drat guards around when he marries Jasmine is proof the monkey/carpet/Genie did all the thinking for him.
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It’s not out yet but I was rewatching the trailer for Morbius and I saw something that I already have a problem with. Apparently in this film Morbius is played by Jared Leto
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Mar 28, 2022 02:19
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oldpainless posted:It’s not out yet but I was rewatching the trailer for Morbius and I saw something that I already have a problem with. Apparently in this film Morbius is played by Jared Leto Christ, just watch him getting smashed up by Edward Norton in Fight Club on repeat like the rest of us.
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Mar 28, 2022 02:58
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Elissimpark posted:Christ, just watch him getting smashed up by Edward Norton in Fight Club on repeat like the rest of us. You're doing it wrong if it's not at least in a 50/50 rotation with the American Psycho axe murder scene.
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Mar 28, 2022 06:36
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I never get why internet people hate Jared Leto so much. It's always related to his performance as the Joker, but he's been in so many other things.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I never get why internet people hate Jared Leto so much. It's always related to his performance as the Joker, but he's been in so many other things. He’s a hugely abusive massive sexcreeper, so there’s that.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I never get why internet people hate Jared Leto so much. It's always related to his performance as the Joker, but he's been in so many other things. Have you noticed how people hate Robert Pattinson for being a bit of a weirdo and a teenage heartthrob? Now substract everything charming and goofy and replace it with self-importance and aloofness.
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Mar 28, 2022 08:33
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Bussamove posted:He’s a hugely abusive massive sexcreeper, so there’s that. A famous person who’s a sex pest, whatever next.
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Mar 28, 2022 08:52
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Cowslips Warren posted:even as a kid I thought there was some poo poo going on in the palace if Jafar could get the loving guards to kidnap, chain up, and throw a visiting prince into water to drown. Like you would expect Aladdin to say something about that poo poo. It ain't a good sign if the guards, who weren't hypnotized and in fact seemed pretty loving happy, to kill a prince just because the creepy royal vizier said to. It's barbaric, but hey, it's home.
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Mar 28, 2022 08:53
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Grendels Dad posted:Jafar is that weird mixture of totally lame and really loving rad that is extremely common in Disney villains. On the one hand, he is competent, dedicated and looks awesome. As mentioned above, he commands the guards and has to work around a manchild who barely seems potty trained. That's pretty much one of the oldest styles of Vaudevillains, literal moustache-twirlers that are charismatic, fun to watch and total slimeballs whose well-earned comeuppance is all the more satisfying to watch. Cowslips Warren posted:The fact that Aladdin has the same drat guards around when he marries Jasmine is proof the monkey/carpet/Genie did all the thinking for him. You're not wrong. But that's most Disney protagonists really, their job is to be heroic and hot while the wacky sidekicks get to have personalities and make decisions. I watched a lot of the Aladdin cartoon as a kid (the sequel where they finally actually get married is basically a series finale for it) and there's actually an interesting dynamic with the guards who REALLY don't like Aladdin but put up with him because Jasmine and the Sultan do.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I never get why internet people hate Jared Leto so much. It's always related to his performance as the Joker, but he's been in so many other things. Hey as an internet person I've disliked him way before when he was the Joker. Also his band sucks.
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Roblo posted:Also his band sucks. He's a movie star with a band, that goes without saying. You don't get to pull that off unless your name is J. Lewis. Oh, alright, I'll give you Zooey Deschanel.
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Grendels Dad posted:Have you noticed how people hate Robert Pattinson for being a bit of a weirdo and a teenage heartthrob? Now substract everything charming and goofy and replace it with self-importance and aloofness. Pattinson kicks rear end
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Mar 28, 2022 09:48
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Jared Leto also insists on going through these dramatic physical transformations for roles that nobody loving remembers. Like when he spent six months eating olive oil and ice cream to play Mark David Chapman and this is probably the first time you've heard about it.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Jared Leto also insists on going through these dramatic physical transformations for roles that nobody loving remembers. Like when he spent six months eating olive oil and ice cream to play Mark David Chapman and this is probably the first time you've heard about it. 
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I never get why internet people hate Jared Leto so much. It's always related to his performance as the Joker, but he's been in so many other things. I was there for that time where he pretended to be into LA group bike rides for like 2 weeks and surrounded himself with the biggest dickheads in the scene, shot a music video together, then never rode a bike again also he just has jim jones vibes
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Mar 28, 2022 14:31
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I would for sure try to ingratiate myself with Jared Leto he seems like he's the kind of guy who always has the best drugs.
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Mar 28, 2022 14:44
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Scar in The Lion King did nothing wrong Ooh a queer-coded character sympathized with the oppressed minority (that actually outnumbered the 'majority' ten to one) and killed the tyrant who was keeping them down what a villain Yes they ran out of food in a couple of years but what leftist revolution doesn't deal with supply chain issues
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My problems with Morbius: 1. Nobody loving knows who the gently caress that is unless you've read a lot of Spiderman comics. Most people....don't read comics. On top of that, there's very little traditional animated representation of this character (this is how normie millenials got into this poo poo btw, the Justice League cartoons and whatnot). So, it's kind of like someone made a superhero movie (and an even worse fate, an origin story superhero movie) about a character most people don't know about and then they: 2. Put Jarred Leto in it. Don't get me wrong, I thought Jared Leto was fine...in uh...Blade Runner? And American Psycho I guess. Thing is is that he still looks the character he was playing in loving Blade Runner and is acting in that exact same mannerism. I thought it was an interesting thing in Blade Runner - I don't care to see a movie with that same person playing that same character that's also a vampire, but let's not forget: 3. Jarred Leto is a loving creepy sexpest.
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Only thing I know of Mobius is from the Spider-Man animated series, where they couldn't show him biting people or talking about blood, so instead he had weird suckers on his hands and he siphoned out plasma(?) from victims.
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I thought it was weird when Jared leto looked straight into the camera and said “Being a sex pest cult leader and a poo poo front-man of a poo poo band is great” And then he went MWAHAHA and did a cgi backflip.
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While I kinda agree, I think Disney has managed to pull a couple of rabbit like these out of the hat before. For example, let me fix this post as if it was from a few years ago.A Festivus Miracle posted:My problems with Guardians of the Galaxy:  ) but I don't think having an unknown character being played by a non A-lister actor that always does the same shctick (and has made bad personal life choices) is automatically a no-go for Disney.
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Chris Pratt was just peaking when GotG came out, Leto's been a giant bundle of bad press for like 5ish years? If this had a more obvious Spider Man connection it might fare better but right now it's "that rear end in a top hat is playing a vampire and I guess it's a comic book movie?" GotG was not a movie sold on the backs of popular characters "talking angry raccoon" and "barely talking pleasant tree" it was "this is the new MCU movie and you're going to see it, Chris Pratt is in it and he's gonna be funny and look how ripped he got."
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I really disliked Leto in Blade Runner. He felt so jarringly out of place tonally to the rest of the movie.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Chris Pratt was just peaking when GotG came out, Leto's been a giant bundle of bad press for like 5ish years? If this had a more obvious Spider Man connection it might fare better but right now it's "that rear end in a top hat is playing a vampire and I guess it's a comic book movie?" GotG was not a movie sold on the backs of popular characters "talking angry raccoon" and "barely talking pleasant tree" it was "this is the new MCU movie and you're going to see it, Chris Pratt is in it and he's gonna be funny and look how ripped he got." He got ripped for Zero Dark Thirty first.
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flavor.flv posted:Scar in The Lion King did nothing wrong Scar uses the hyenas just to gain power, he very clearly doesn't sympathize with them and then turn on them the moment it becomes inconvenient to be associated with them. He has an entire song about how the hyenas are dumb but useful. Scar is not a hyena ally. Alhazred has a new favorite as of 16:54 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:I was there for that time where he pretended to be into LA group bike rides for like 2 weeks and surrounded himself with the biggest dickheads in the scene, shot a music video together, then never rode a bike again No! Noo!
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bitterandtwisted posted:I really disliked Leto in Blade Runner. He felt so jarringly out of place tonally to the rest of the movie. I think I heard a rumor that they wrote the part with Bowie in mind.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Chris Pratt was just peaking when GotG came out  Parks and Recs and Lego Movie (that came out a few months before GotG) are the only things I remember him from (aside from ZDT, and that was decidedly off character compared to whatever came before and after. You could say that no one expected GotG to blow up as hard as it did, but in a post GotG world I'm not going to base my expectations on just the fact that a character is unknown; and in a post Thor Ragnarock world I'm not going to unequivocally say that an apparently off the left field choice (Waititi) is going to work out poorly. That Italian Guy has a new favorite as of 17:45 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Alhazred posted:Scar uses the hyenas just to gain power, he very clearly doesn't sympathize with them and then turn on them the moment it becomes inconvenient to be associated with them. He has an entire song about how the hyenas are dumb but useful. Scar is not a hyena ally. An authoritarian co-opting marginalized groups and not at all interested in governing better or at all once at the top of the hierarchy. Hate to see it.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I think I heard a rumor that they wrote the part with Bowie in mind. That would have been SO much better. Or even Sting. They both have acting chops leagues above Leeto.
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Carthag Tuek posted:Pattinson kicks rear end 
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Jared Leto is an Oscar-winning actor with a huge base of obsessive fans. Did someone really suggest he's not an A-lister?
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That Italian Guy posted:I mean...not really? Leto has been in a ton of high profile stuff (and ok, in some of it he was more "notorious" than "famous", but still) before this, way more than Pratt had been when he was casted as Starlord. Pratt was a popular actor on a popular show (averaging about 3 million viewers at broadcast around that time) whose star was rising, "peaking" doesn't mean he had a history if success it means he was approaching the zenith of his popularly and buzz, which would cap the next year with Jurassic World. He was an up-and-coming seemingly likable guy in (and this is the important part) the next big MCU movie. Leto had his critical peak with what? Lincoln Lawyer? That was over a decade ago and the decade has been mostly filled with bad press, stories of him sleeping with underage fans, sexually harassing his costars, and leading a cult along with some big commercial bombs and critical lashings. This isn't promising to be a fun, colorful, action extravaganza that you'll need to see to understand the next big movie starring a well-liked actor. Pratt's had a lot of bad press over the last few years and a couple bombs in there too, I don't think the Chris Pratt of today would lead a drab Kraven The Hunter or Swarm or whichever third-rate spidey villain movie today. The thing is none of those bombs or revelations about his lovely church or his lack of support towards coworkers were stories in 2014, and a third-rate spidey villain movie in 2022 that is seemingly unconnected to the well-liked franchise is NOT going to do the business of an MCU movie in 2014. edit yes I know venom 1 did better at the box office than guardians 1, morbius ain't no venom edit2 got Lincoln Lawyer confused with Dallas Buyers Club lol Baron von Eevl has a new favorite as of 18:41 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:Pratt was a popular actor on a popular show (averaging about 3 million viewers at broadcast around that time) whose star was rising, "peaking" doesn't mean he had a history if success it means he was approaching the zenith of his popularly and buzz, which would cap the next year with Jurassic World. He was an up-and-coming seemingly likable guy in (and this is the important part) the next big MCU movie. Where do you stand on Blade as an origin movie about a lesser known comic book character? Or Deadpool? Or Hellboy? I mean, theres every chance that Morbius could flop, but I think it'll be more about if the movie is any good than it being because its an origin movie of a lesser known character and that you personally dont like the lead.
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I don't think Blade did well because it was a comic book movie, I think it did well because it was a fun-looking action movie starring Wesley Snipes. Deadpool has more cultural relevance than Morbius and Ryan Reynolds remains well-liked by audiences despite all the Green Lanterns in the world. Hellboy 2004 was a modest success but wasn't huge, and Hellboy 2019 was a bomb. I'm not saying that Morbius is going to bomb, it'll probably do okay, but I think it's off the mark to compare it to Guardians just because they're both about relatively obscure comic book characters.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I don't think Blade did well because it was a comic book movie, I think it did well because it was a fun-looking action movie starring Wesley Snipes. It also helped that it was really loving good. IIRC, it was very much one of those word of mouth type of movies that caught on. Obviously Snipes' name being attached to it helped at the time but I don't recall that there were tremendously high expectations for it
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Baron von Eevl posted:I don't think Blade did well because it was a comic book movie, I think it did well because it was a fun-looking action movie starring Wesley Snipes. Deadpool has more cultural relevance than Morbius and Ryan Reynolds remains well-liked by audiences despite all the Green Lanterns in the world. Hellboy 2004 was a modest success but wasn't huge, and Hellboy 2019 was a bomb. So basically it's prospects have nothing to do with it being an origin movie of a middling-obscure character, which is what the original poster was saying? Hellboy 2004 is obviously the one I'm comparing it to because it was the origin movie of an obscure character (and it did well enough to get a bigger budget sequel), I'll give you Deadpool isnt necessarily a fair comparison because Ryan Reynolds has charisma for days, but he (was, not any more) a pretty obscure character. Personally I couldnt pick Jared Leto out of a line up, but I reckon the Morbius movie will probably do fine, although underperform Sonys expectations (because I reckon they have extremely unrealistic "second lynchpin of our spiderverse" type expecations of it. BiggerBoat posted:It also helped that it was really loving good. IIRC, it was very much one of those word of mouth type of movies that caught on. Obviously Snipes' name being attached to it helped at the time but I don't recall that there were tremendously high expectations for it Vanishingly low expectations IIRC, it came out in 1998 when there had been essentially no good comic book adaptations that werent a batman or superman (and some bad adaptations of both of those), or at least no good marvel/dc ones (I'm sure there are some that most people at the time didnt realise were based off a comic, like your men in black and whatnot). Snipes was a solid name (and great for the part!) but not exactly a box office guarantee.
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I love the 70s Marvel Dracula comics. They're fun. It's mostly just Dracula being an rear end in a top hat and butting heads with someone whose a bigger rear end in a top hat than him also sometimes Blade. And almost every single issue there's a few panels where some random civilian is introduced and we get their full name and a glimpse into their background and/or whatever is going on in their life at that moment and then Dracula shows up and murders them.
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