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zachol posted:Also it seems like the price must have a lot to do with how uncommon the panels are? Like the whole issue comes down to "nobody makes 5k 27" monitors" and that sort of leads to "there isn't much demand for the panels themselves" and then "so nobody's bothered developing processes for making them efficiently." Yes, and it's not even that they don't have the processes. Those are a known quantity. Low volume is just always less efficient than high volume. Takes time and money to switch production lines over to make a short run of something.
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Riven posted:I really miss that small 4k one. Nobody even makes a 1440 24” monitor. But I don’t $700 miss it. Dell makes a 25" 1440p UltraSharp that is pretty good. Probably my favourite monitor (100% scaling lyfe)
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Apropos of alternative pretty displays aimed, at least partially, at Mac users: The incoming Samsung M8 monitors+cameras are available for preorder today, and seem like a solid and interesting option. ~$700, 32” at 4K/60Hz, so you definitely lose out on PPI and perceived sharpness but you gain a big canvas for blowing stuff like text up. 99% sRGB, HDR10+ , Ultra wide mode (21:9 mode), but only 400nit Max brightness. USB-C, 65w power delivery (ugh, I’d want at least 90), HDMI, magnetically-attached included webcam that can be easily removed and repositioned (face tracking and auto-zoom functions presumably only on Windows and/or Tizen), ergonomic aluminum base + four available body colors that clearly ape/are designed to fit with Apple’s current design language. WiFi, streaming/TVoIP functionality and apps (basically whatever’s available on Samsung TVs, so not bad if you care about this but also meh. Interesting that they’ve been marketing this heavily as an AppleTV+ box), Alexa + Google Assistant + Bixby (eww) and smart home hub functionality (eww), Bluetooth 4.2, runs Tizen and will let you do stuff like browse/connect to Microsoft 365 without an attached computer which could be convenient, some native remote-access feature for Windows/MacOS,  AirPlay 2—connect to your Mac or iOS device wirelessly if desired (I wish more displays could do this! I wish Apple’s display could do this!)  
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LionArcher posted:shut the gently caress up Wow those sure were some posts. I have a lenovo mini PC that's attached to my TV along with an Apple TV. The PC can technically do 4k/60 but generally struggles and it's currently running at 1080/60. How would a mac mini be as a HTPC? Use case is playing movies which are generally either downloaded or rarely streamed. Also streamed music off Tidal or Eurosport or Youtubes. I appreciate those are possible off the Apple TV but the interface sucks. I'm guessing it will cope with the resolution just fine. I haven't had a mac before, any other issues?
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Mar 28, 2022 14:05
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knox_harrington posted:Wow those sure were some posts. i mean it's way over what you need for an htpc but it's easy, small, quiet, so i get the appeal. i find the apple tv interface fine (with the notable exception of the terrible youtube app), but i get some people may not. i'd get the magic keyboard and trackpad to go with it even though it might be overkill, and buy or build a little frame to stick them together for lap use
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Mar 28, 2022 14:15
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knox_harrington posted:Wow those sure were some posts. Mac Minis make great HTPCs. Depending on whether you want to run any games you’ll run into various levels of limitation (“is the game available for mac? is it a ROM that will run easily on a Mac emulator?”), hacks/workarounds (Wine/CrossOver, etc—nobody is spending $500+ on a license for this for their Mac Mini HTPC unless they’re really stupid), and impossibility (DirectX12) Other than that they’re aces and will probably last you forever if all you’re doing is streaming, browsing, and playback.
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Mar 28, 2022 14:17
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mediaphage posted:i'd get the magic keyboard and trackpad to go with it even though it might be overkill, and buy or build a little frame to stick them together for lap use Super don’t do this. Logitech makes a bunch of HTPC deck-style keyboard/trackpad combo units that all work great with Mac. Some are like $25
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When my Mac arrives, what is the most painless way to migrate all my browser bookmarks from edge on my PC to Safari on my Mac?
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The Lord Bude posted:When my Mac arrives, what is the most painless way to migrate all my browser bookmarks from edge on my PC to Safari on my Mac? whatever the built in migration features for edge/Safari are, I would think.
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Mar 28, 2022 14:33
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Ok Comboomer posted:Super don’t do this. matter of opinion. i agree the magic keyboard is totally unnecessary but nothing is as good as apple's trackpad (you could buy a used one even). i like having a mouse (not the lovely apple mouse) on a desktop but i would like to be able to use the good trackpad on an htpc personally
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Mar 28, 2022 14:43
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mediaphage posted:matter of opinion. i agree the magic keyboard is totally unnecessary but nothing is as good as apple's trackpad (you could buy a used one even). i like having a mouse (not the lovely apple mouse) on a desktop but i would like to be able to use the good trackpad on an htpc personally agreed, but unless you’re planning to do a ton of browsing from your living room Mac (which you totally might be, tbf—in which case I’d recommend an inexpensive lap desk) I don’t know that expensive desktop peripherals designed for tabletop use beat something light/rigid designed to be tossed on a couch. Like if all I’m doing is punching in addresses and queuing up movies or music or whatever, I do think that the Logitech options are more comfortable for that, especially bc you can just grab the deck and toss it back like it were a big remote control. Also, big no at having to deal (exclusively) with separate keyboard + trackpad to do HTPC stuff. Gotta grab one off the table and dig the other out of the couch cushions or whatever whenever you want to switch content...no thanks.
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Mar 28, 2022 14:52
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Ok Comboomer posted:agreed, but unless you’re planning to do a ton of browsing from your living room Mac (which you totally might be, tbf—in which case I’d recommend an inexpensive lap desk) I don’t know that expensive desktop peripherals designed for tabletop use beat something light/rigid designed to be tossed on a couch. to be fair, it was why i suggested the pair because you can match them up in an accessory to make them one unit. it is absolutely an overpriced solution, though. i wouldn't be doing a ton of browsing (ofc, not op) but using a mac versus a small dedicated alternative means i personally would want the gesture support, etc. op probably doesn't care since they don't use macs in other situations, though. for the record, i use this for couch pc control, but the trackpad is decidedly mediocre (everything else about it is excellent):  i definitely recommend getting a keyboard that's backlit if you're going to be using it in a home theatre situation (i’m aware the magic keyboard isn’t backlit, i just think the trackpad is so good it’s a worthwhile consideration) mediaphage fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Mar 28, 2022 15:00
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mediaphage posted:i definitely recommend getting a keyboard that's backlit if you're going to be using it in a home theatre situation E: poo poo like this 🤮 
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Mar 28, 2022 15:24
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that touchpad gives me huge amounts of anxiety
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Mar 28, 2022 15:27
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Lady Radia posted:that touchpad gives me huge amounts of anxiety Which one though? Also, there's the K600 nowadays, which looks to do a lot of what the K830 did: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/keyboards/k600-smart-tv-d-pad.920-008822.html
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TACD posted:If you have a source on where I can get a Logitech K830 (which I think is what you have?) then I'd buy one in a heartbeat. They stopped making them a year or two ago for unknown reasons, and the only other backlit combi keyboard+trackpad units I can find are extremely ugly and by extremely questionable brands. They’re still in production (or will be soon), but stock is currently sold out. Logitech is taking emails and will notify when available again. If you can get by without backlighting, the K400 (meh but cheap) and K600 (better, newer design, still no backlight) are available
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TACD posted:If you have a source on where I can get a Logitech K830 (which I think is what you have?) then I'd buy one in a heartbeat. They stopped making them a year or two ago for unknown reasons, and the only other backlit combi keyboard+trackpad units I can find are extremely ugly and by extremely questionable brands. yeah i noticed that and it made me wonder why, like whether there was a supply chain issue - because unlike a lot of their discontinued products this one still gets listed as a temporary issue on their website there’s also this grotesquerie lol  but if you want something basic with no lighting they do still make the k400 plus for $30 canadian
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Ok Comboomer posted:They’re still in production (or will be soon), but stock is currently sold out. Logitech is taking emails and will notify when available again.
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Ok Comboomer posted:Apropos of alternative pretty displays aimed, at least partially, at Mac users: Those monitor photos invoked visions of the eOne, so thanks for that!
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The Lord Bude posted:When my Mac arrives, what is the most painless way to migrate all my browser bookmarks from edge on my PC to Safari on my Mac? Check this out: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204087 You can download a Windows Migration Assistant on the PC side for the appropriate macOS revision on your Mac (it will likely be Monterey) and according to the page, you get to select the types of data that can be ported over, including: Apple posted:Bookmarks Think they mean Microsoft Edge.. if you keep your bookmarks in any of these formats you're golden. I've used this a bunch of times when helping folks move from their Dells to Macs, works nicely, it's a boost for folks who sigh in relief that they don't have to port over their bookmarks en masse. Of course you can argue "But then they have to learn / settle for Safari" but hey, it works. Ok Comboomer posted:whatever the built in migration features for edge/Safari are, I would think. The built-in import feature under File > Import supports Google Chrome, Firefox, bookmark HTML files, and password CSV files. But of course this requires you manually export those formats from your favorite PC browser to a FAT-formatted flash drive or network volume. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Mar 28, 2022 18:21
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Binary Badger posted:
You can export as an HTML file in Edge, then you just have to get that file to your Mac to import it. You could just throw it up on some Dropbox, Google Drive, or hell even a Discord server. Or download it on Windows, login to iCloud.com and drop it off in your Files, download on the Mac. Lot of options, but basically export to HTML file in Edge -> get that file on your Mac -> File, Import from Bookmark HTML file in Safari
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Ok Comboomer posted:
Just curious, what are the use cases for this? My TV has airplay, and I'll occasionally throw something on there once in a blue moon from my phone or macs, but I'm drawing a blank as to what the benefit would be for a monitor.
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Mar 28, 2022 19:59
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Yeah its useful for TVs so you can throw a takeout menu up there for the olds to see but I'm struggling to find a use case for airplaying to a monitor in your office or whatever
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Mar 28, 2022 20:02
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In theory, I guess you could pop one Mac's screen onto another which may have some interesting edge cases. I don't really use AirPlay at all as it is, but I imagine to some people in demanding desk-based jobs, this may be more useful than other gimmicks out there.
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Mar 28, 2022 20:14
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one good case would be sending audio from your phone so if you’re doing other poo poo you can just control your music/podcasts/whatever from your phone. this isn’t even counting if you have the monitor in another area of the house where it might be nice to just cast up youtube or tv while you’re cooking or whatever.
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Mar 28, 2022 20:41
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At the place I work, every projector and monitor on a cart has airplay, so it's really fast and easy to pass around the screens between users during a day of work. Not sure how that fits for a smaller device like this, but in general "wireless external monitor" is convenient for dynamic mobile spaces.
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doingitwrong posted:At the place I work, every projector and monitor on a cart has airplay, so it's really fast and easy to pass around the screens between users during a day of work. Not sure how that fits for a smaller device like this, but in general "wireless external monitor" is convenient for dynamic mobile spaces. yeah i obv wasn’t even thinking of office spaces, where i’ve used apple tvs for that before. it’s very convenient.
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Taima posted:Just curious, what are the use cases for this? My TV has airplay, and I'll occasionally throw something on there once in a blue moon from my phone or macs, but I'm drawing a blank as to what the benefit would be for a monitor. These monitors are being marketed as more than just a monitor. They have built in voice assistants, are being pushed as a hub for all your IoT / smart home devices, have built in apps (w/o being connected to a computer) for both productivity and smart TV use cases. It's trying to be something that sits somewhere between a traditional monitor and smart TV. So in the sense of being a hub for all your devices, for media playback, and being usable without a computer, AirPlay fits in better than it does with a traditional monitor. Now, how many people actually want/need a monitor/Smart TV hybrid is a separate question. Maybe in today's WFH landscape where you have a space that transforms from home office to hang out area after work hours (not everyone has space to dedicate 100% to home office use), or for those that have their computer in their bedroom (college kids, people living with roommates, etc) it makes sense. In many cases though it seems like it'd just be better to have a separate TV (mainly because 32" is rather small if you're not sitting at the same table as the monitor). e: also looks like they aren't (and can't be made to be due to the location of the ports) VESA compatible. Splinter fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Having finally received my Mac Studio, love it. Although, is there a good option for a set of speakers for this thing? The built in one is fine for bleeps and other assorted notifications but not great for music, which I listen to constantly while working. Is the HomePod mini acceptable? My prior desktop was an iMac and I just used the built ins but they weren't all that fantastic. I don't need something super awesome but it would be nice to get decent sound.
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what's important to you, and what sort of price point are you willing to pay? i can't imagine using a homepod mini for computer speakers, at least in part out of what's the point in using a smart speaker for that if you're willing to get a little amp for them (there are lots of totally decent tiny cheap options these days, many of which include things like bluetooth), you wouldn't go wrong with something like the Klipsch R-41Ms:  if you want something with an easier connection, you could get a pair of Edifiers, like the R1280s: 
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If you're looking for something small, I'd get the Audioengine A2+'s. https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-...aps%2C60&sr=8-3 I had those for my PC before I upgraded my desk and got some huge Kanto YU6s with a subwoofer. The HomePod mini is good at playing music and movie sounds, but I'm not sure how it'd fair if being used as your primary audio for a computer. The HomePod mini does work well if you pair two together though.
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Ooh, the Mackie CR series is pretty good. I've been very happy with my CR3s, but wouldn't bedgrudge you going for a CR4 or 5 instead. They do have a version with Bluetooth too, if that's your jam. I can say confidently I have had much fewer issues with those than my sibling has had with their HomePod Mini.
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Taima posted:Just curious, what are the use cases for this? My TV has airplay, and I'll occasionally throw something on there once in a blue moon from my phone or macs, but I'm drawing a blank as to what the benefit would be for a monitor. I’ve used Airplay to do stuff like: -use a TV as a second display for a MacBook Pro, either for like second desktop poo poo like displaying windows/documents/etc, or simply for beaming YouTube vids and Spotify and whatnot to the main stereo. -use a TV as my only display (this worked less well because of the ergonomics of trying to work from the sofa when the TV is across the room. If both were on the same desktop I think it would be much more manageable) If all you’re doing is working with Office, doing text editing, or relatively basic online stuff, even like video playback, the wireless connection is more than quick enough IMO. It also makes working from an iOS device (something that, for example, tons of students still insist on doing) much more comfortable since you don’t have to go connect it directly to the display. I just think it’s a nifty QoL feature 
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nitsuga posted:Ooh, the Mackie CR series is pretty good. I've been very happy with my CR3s, but wouldn't bedgrudge you going for a CR4 or 5 instead. They do have a version with Bluetooth too, if that's your jam. I can say confidently I have had much fewer issues with those than my sibling has had with their HomePod Mini. I really want to like the CR series but they had a notorious longevity problem last I checked Idk if they’re improved at all but there was a span of time where p much every goon who tried them ended up having to replace them after like 2-3 years I really like Audioengine and Kanto stuff for normies, and you really can’t beat a preamp+monitors (or something similar) like JBL LSRs or ADAM TxV if you want  I’ve heard good things about Edifier but they’re kinda ugly to me and a lot of the knockoffs floating around on Amazon are even uglier Also can’t go wrong with a set of JBL Soundsticks 3, for that classic “designed by Jony Ive in 2001” look
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Newer versions of macOS actually have pretty good low-latency system-wide AirPlay support with video/audio sync (just pick your sound output as the AirPlay speaker and it does the rest). I personally wouldn't recommend the HomePod Mini as a dedicated speaker because the sound is only 'okay' but it does open up the opportunity to use other AirPlay speakers in the event you already have one.
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CaptainCrunch posted:Having finally received my Mac Studio, love it. Although, is there a good option for a set of speakers for this thing? The built in one is fine for bleeps and other assorted notifications but not great for music, which I listen to constantly while working. I use my current Mac Mini (and hopefully future Studio) with a Dell monitor, and got their matching soundbar. It mounts on to the monitor’s stand and works fine for what I need.
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Thanks for the input, all. I'm not an audio engineer, just need good sounding tunes in stereo. Occasionally a project I'm working on will have audio but it's not often. Both the CR3-X and Edifier options look pretty close to what I was looking for. Time to dig into reviews, etc. For speakers with the 3.5 mm plug, the Studio's specs say the headphone jack has "advanced support for high-impedance headphones or line out for amplified speakers." That's exactly for this sort of thing, right? I'm not going to get crap sound by plugging speakers into a "headphone" jack?
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CaptainCrunch posted:Thanks for the input, all. I'm not an audio engineer, just need good sounding tunes in stereo. Occasionally a project I'm working on will have audio but it's not often. You’ll be fine don’t worry about it
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Ok Comboomer posted:You’ll be fine don’t worry about it Groovy. Just making sure I was actually understanding it correctly.
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