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Butterfly Valley posted:You can hit those high frame rates in esports titles with medium/high settings with most of the higher end recent cards. But there's a big difference between 240hz in csgo and other more intensive titles, both in terms of strain on the GPU and actual utility. The difference up to a medium high refresh rate from 60fps is way more tangible than the difference between medium and super high refresh rates and the only games you should really be worried about trying to hit the caps on your new monitor with are those esports titles you mentioned. Just because you can go to up 240hz that shouldn't be a hard target in every game because that's just not realistic, this gen or next. Gotcha. And wrt cpu I have a 12600k that manages (at 1080p)3-400fps in csgo and 2-300 in Valorant with my current 1070
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I mean I play a lot of valorant, csgo. But I also want high fps with high settings in stuff like forza because I can definitely tell the difference when my current monitor bugs out and displays 60fps instead of 144. Even on CSgo, and absolutely not on Valorant, 1440p @240hz is a pipe dream. Most esports players play on 1080p with settings set to the absolute minimum possible settings (as in low for everything, with nearly all visual features turned off) to achieve 240/360 FPS. It’s just not realistic yet for 1440p. Buying a 240hz monitor is not the solution to fixing issues when you run at 144. It’s buying a 144hz monitor that works well (of which there are many) and having a system that can handle the load like a 3080+.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Even on CSgo, and absolutely not on Valorant, 1440p @240hz is a pipe dream. Yeah but the monitor was a gift which I said. Thanks for the info though
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tbf it should last a LONG time, assuming no other big changes in the monitor space take off. as 4k becomes more achievable high refresh rate 1440p will become even more of "the sweet spot" than it imo already is.
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I'm honestly a little scared to go past 1080p and 60Hz. I don't do any competitive gaming, but if I switched to higher resolutions or framerates, I'm not sure I'd be able to ever switch back. I'm looking to plug into VR at some point though, which might undo my abstinence. Project Wingman would play so loving good with VR.
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I'm honestly a little scared to go past 1080p and 60Hz. I don't do any competitive gaming, but if I switched to higher resolutions or framerates, I'm not sure I'd be able to ever switch back. this is also my nonsensical attitude: it's expensive to get there and I am cheap
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Yeah but the monitor was a gift which I said. Thanks for the info though mom and dad fight a lot posted:I'm honestly a little scared to go past 1080p and 60Hz. I don't do any competitive gaming, but if I switched to higher resolutions or framerates, I'm not sure I'd be able to ever switch back. You will definitely struggle to go back. 60hz is super noticeable once you adjust to 144hz. Monitors are not that pricey anymore. You can land a nice 1440p@144hz for around $250.
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Mar 28, 2022 19:24
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:this is also my nonsensical attitude: it's expensive to get there and I am cheap This is why I won't do a second monitor. That's a one way door. Maybe someday if I'm settled down in one place for the long term.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:this is also my nonsensical attitude: it's expensive to get there and I am cheap it's perfectly logical. i've definitely felt the pressure to spend more than i wanted because of the monitor i bought.
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Grand Fromage posted:This is why I won't do a second monitor. That's a one way door. I wouldn't ever use less than 2 monitors at work, but I seem to transition to a single-monitor at home without missing it too much. I take it back actually—switching between 1080p and 1440p probably wouldn't be that big a deal either if all I'm doing is farting around and gaming. But from what I've been hearing, switching back to 60Hz can range from moderately annoying to downright frustrating, even for desktop work. That's a withdrawal symptom that I can do without. 
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Grand Fromage posted:This is why I won't do a second monitor. That's a one way door. I went from one monitor, to two, to three. And then to a single ultra-wide monitor and that's where I've stayed since .. well ultra-wides have been a thing. I have recently been thinking about going to two monitors again mostly because real 4k ultra-wides (ie 5k2k) aren't really catching on. There is maybe three models in existence. And certainly nothing that can do better than 60hz - this is most likely a bandwidth limitation though. Maybe things will improve when DP 2.0 starts trickling out. I do feel that ultra-wides have moved out of the super niche space into more main stream. Especially with things like this new Alienware OLED coming out. So my opinion is that if you are going to stay on single monitor you should just make it be an ultra-wide. xgalaxy fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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xgalaxy posted:I do feel that ultra-wides have moved out of the super niche space into more main stream. Especially with things like this new Alienware OLED coming out. Look at the prices on these models, think about the average person's budget, and take another shot at whether that qualifies as "mainstream" imo. Especially when they could just get a 32" M32Q or something for almost a third of the price (which is already more than many are willing to spend). Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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You can get decent 34" UW monitors relatively cheap at this point, though? I went with 38" + 34" (both bought used!) on a stand, with 27"s flanking the centre monitors in portrait and my only regret is not doing it sooner...
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MSI 3080 Ventus 3X for $1030: https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-10g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137686?Item=N82E16814137686 It seems like every week this card comes back into stock with $20 shaved off its price. The world's most agonizingly slow downward price trend. edit: https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1508531805330227216 edit 2: 3070 Ti with an older B450 motherboard for $760 after rebate: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4487463 The total cost of this bundle is a fair bit below the cost of the next-cheapest unbundled 3070 Ti, so it may be worth it for the card alone. Unlike the last bit of ewaste this card was bundled with, this motherboard may still be usable for a budget Zen 3 system, though honestly I'd still just try to get what I can for it from ebay or craigslist. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Hello thread. Planning on building a computer for my father. I've built a few for myself over the years so I'm tech savory enough but I'm horrible at knowing what to select. Sole use of the computer will be browsing online and playing soliatire. The most stressful it might get is a Zoom call or 8 Chrome tabs open playing youtube in one. Regular 70 year old guy using a computer. My limit is under $800 with the Windows copy. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-11400F 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Western Digital) Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($55.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA GQ 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($89.72 @ Amazon) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.98 @ Newegg) Total: $668.65 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-03-28 19:37 EDT-0400
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Digital Jedi posted:Hello thread. Planning on building a computer for my father. I've built a few for myself over the years so I'm tech savory enough but I'm horrible at knowing what to select. You can get windows keys for far cheaper at SA Mart. And if you aren't using a dedicated GPU (which you won't need for such a simple use case), then you'll need a CPU with integrated graphics, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08X6JPK4K?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 You can save money by getting DDR4-3200 since the extra speed from 3600 won't make a difference here. And that PSU is overkill too. Something like this for $50 is already more than what you need: https://www.newegg.com/evga-500-br-...7uBQQqfmakIx6kQ Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Mar 29, 2022 |
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Digital Jedi posted:Hello thread. Planning on building a computer for my father. I've built a few for myself over the years so I'm tech savory enough but I'm horrible at knowing what to select. Going to give you an alternate here. Buy a used or decommissioned office pc from Craigslist or eBay, throw extra ram and an SSD in there and call it a day. You get a small form factor, and a much cheaper cost. While what you’re building is adequate, it’s way overkill for his needs.
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yeah or check out an ecycler or something. if he legit isn't a chrome tab fiend like everyone my generation is* a dell optiplex will be waaaaaaay cheaper and you can kit out if you need to with more storage, ram etc on the cheap. you can buy them refurbed from various places if you prefer with a warranty if that's important to you. keeps poo poo out of a landfill too. *uh, 28 tabs on firefox, another instance of chrome, the game Control, lol
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Monitors are not that pricey anymore. You can land a nice 1440p@144hz for around $250. This is true. I hate throwing out working electronics, though. Once either my decade-old Samsung 220WM or my half-decade old Dell P2417h dies I'll get a new monitor! At the rate that's going, I'll be able to land a nice 4k/144 display for around $250 and I'll need a $1900 GTX5070 to drive it.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:This is true. I hate throwing out working electronics, though. Once either my decade-old Samsung 220WM or my half-decade old Dell P2417h dies I'll get a new monitor! keep them in action! don't fall prey to the "oh mismatched monitors oh no" nerds, build towards that cyberpunk wall of half broken CRTs aesthetic. two monitors good three monitors better, because you can get a portrait one goin.
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CoolCab posted:keep them in action! don't fall prey to the "oh mismatched monitors oh no" nerds, build towards that cyberpunk wall of half broken CRTs aesthetic. two monitors good three monitors better, because you can get a portrait one goin. they don't fit at my desk or else i would. mismatched, all different resolutions, stand types, etc 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:MSI 3080 Ventus 3X for $1030: https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-10g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137686?Item=N82E16814137686 That's out of stock, but now there's this for a thousand: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080vision-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932460?Item=N82E16814932460&quicklink=true I'm glad I was wrong and they haven't completely abandoned the 10GB 3080, though it still seems like they're producing several times as many 12GBs now. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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CoolCab posted:the most important factor in running a high resolution monitor is GPU, by a lot. wide 1440p is pretty close to 4k in terms of pixels pushed, so a 3080 or better would be ideal. with that said a 8660k is five years old now, it will probably keep working but it would be about time i'd be looking into upgrading, imo. Quick update, lugged in the new monitor yesterday and tried a few games, I can still run Doom Eternal on native 3440×1440 with all high / some highest settings at a stable 80-90 fps. GTX1080 is still a beast after all this time I'll definately wait the few months for RTX4000 series
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I missed that post, but I just want to point out that ultrawide 1440p is not anywhere near as hard to drive as 4K. 4K is 1.67x as many pixels as 3440x1440p, which is a big difference in my book. Anyway, waiting is probably the smart move. You'll probably struggle with games that are harder to run (Doom Eternal runs well on everything), but even the midrange 40-series cards will likely end up being able to drive 3440x1440 just fine for years.
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oh mb in my head I thought it was closer to one and a quarter.
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and yeah non RT from eternal is for sure an outlier, it is famous for running on much older hardware because it's extremely well optimized.
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This Asus 3070 Ti with an Asus Prime B660M-A motherboard for $830 is actually a pretty okay deal: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4487716&quicklink=true The motherboard is usable for a modern Intel 12th gen system, though I wouldn't put a 12900 in it or anything (and probably not a 12700 either, though it's doable). If you don't want a bundled motherboard, then EVGA has their 3070 Ti XC3 in stock for $720, which is "just" 20% over MSRP. edit: Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:now there's this for a thousand: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080vision-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932460?Item=N82E16814932460&quicklink=true This is still in stock. Also, it looks like Sapphire saw fit to price match with their 6800 XT: https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6800-xt-11304-03-20g/p/N82E16814202405?Item=N82E16814202405&quicklink=true (the 3080 is better though, tbh) Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The motherboard is usable for a modern Intel 12th gen system, though I wouldn't put a 12900 in it or anything (and probably not a 12700 either, though it's doable). If you don't want a bundled motherboard, then EVGA has their 3070 Ti XC3 in stock for $720, which is "just" 20% over MSRP. lol it sucks that i saw this and was like "yo thats a pretty decent deal"
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:This Asus 3070 Ti with an Asus Prime B660M-A motherboard for $830 is actually a pretty okay deal: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4487716&quicklink=true I'm close to just getting a 3070 TI even though I want a 3080 or 3080 TI. Not sure why the 3080s aren't available as much as the 3070 TIs. Waiting is paying off though.
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Because the 3070 Ti is a weird card with bad value compared to the regular 3070 or 3080, and it's been covered so much that even average buyers know it. I think the Tis are also LHR while the regulars are not, at least when it comes to FEs
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Unsinkabear posted:Because the 3070 Ti is a weird card with bad value compared to the regular 3070 or 3080, and it's been covered so much that even average buyers know it. I think the Tis are also LHR while the regulars are not, at least when it comes to FEs Every nvidia card is LHR except for the 3090/3090 Ti.
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err posted:I'm close to just getting a 3070 TI even though I want a 3080 or 3080 TI. Not sure why the 3080s aren't available as much as the 3070 TIs. because it's for sure the sweet spot or sanest option at the high end. the three that launched at near launch (3060ti, 3070 and 3080 10GB) have much much more competitive RRPs than anything that came later, and the diminishing returns after 3080 are insane. here's some random game from the recent 3090ti review:  there is a little variation depending on the game and if it needs a ton of vram but spitballing - a 3070 (RRP 499) gets you 70, a 3080 (RRP 699) gets you about 100. two hundred dollars buys you thirty frames, not a terrible ROI. to get another 5 frames costs five hundred dollars and to get only another 25 frames on the 3080 costs 1300 dollars more. of course MSRPs are still a joke but they influence secondary market pricing, you're never going to get a 3080ti for less than MSRP.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Every nvidia card is LHR except for the 3090/3090 Ti. My bad, I got that from some of the stock Discord people so I should have known to double check it
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Every nvidia card is LHR except for the 3090/3090 Ti. I thought the 3060Ti FE wasn't LHR
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60ti, 70 and 80 founders are still full hash. That’s why all the little hypebeast sneaker bros still snatch them up.
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