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CapnAndy posted:I don't think Stormlight 5 comes out in 2023? I thought he wanted all of 2023 to write it. If Secret Book 4 comes out concurrent or after Stormlight 5 it'll bug me way less. He's shooting for autumn 2023 and is something like 3% done with it, and at his current pace he may get it out by then. Secret Book 4 is slated for October 2023 (per his Kickstarter page), so it's on track to release concurrently or close to Stormlight 5.
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CapnAndy posted:I don't think Stormlight 5 comes out in 2023? I thought he wanted all of 2023 to write it. If Secret Book 4 comes out concurrent or after Stormlight 5 it'll bug me way less. State of the Sanderson 2021 originally hoped for Fall 2023, but yea I think some things got in the way and he had a slightly later start on it or something
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Sab669 posted:State of the Sanderson 2021 originally hoped for Fall 2023, but yea I think some things got in the way and he had a slightly later start on it or something My understanding is that the editing on Wax and Wayne 4 took a bit longer due to him writing a bunch more on it, but he still thinks he can hit his original timeline especially due to not having any conventions to go to. My guess is that Secret Book 4 would come out a month or two before Stormlight 5.
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Secret Book 4 should be start of October with Stormlight 5 at mid-late November.
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Mordiceius posted:Secret Book 4 should be start of October with Stormlight 5 at mid-late November. Which would be similar to how Edgedancer and Dawnshard came out closely before Oathbringer and RoW, respectively. And both books "spoiled" a bit of those later books, too. In a way. If there's just that one plot beat that was revealed so far that's going to be spoilt for SA5, it would be fine with me. I can absolutely see Secret Book 4's storyline developing in a way that won't have any further Stormlight Archive spoilers. As for Secret Book 4 itself, especially in light of that excerpt of the Sixth of the Dusk sequel scene released some time ago , it's interesting that Sig reacted quite surprised to see the Scadrian rune. He makes comparisons/mentions of Taldain and Threnody rather casually, and isn't that shocked about the idea that those refugees are Threnodyte offshoots. But that presumably Steel Alphabet letter really surprised him. I wonder why.
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Skuzal posted:My understanding is that the editing on Wax and Wayne 4 took a bit longer due to him writing a bunch more on it, but he still thinks he can hit his original timeline especially due to not having any conventions to go to. My guess is that Secret Book 4 would come out a month or two before Stormlight 5. He'll be fine as long as he doesn't accidentally write a bunch of secret books along the way
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betting it'll be some kind of mistborn adaptation -- since making a billion dollars on kickstarter probably helps attract funding for games/movies -- but who knows
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eke out posted:betting it'll be some kind of mistborn adaptation -- since making a billion dollars on kickstarter probably helps attract funding for games/movies -- but who knows Some great comments on this  
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Was about to post this, I'm a little afraid. He's unpredictable. I'm not just talking about just writing 5 new books (that's actually not that shocking), but I don't think it's hyperbole to say that nobody expected Kelsier to appear in Fortnite, yet that happened. So...
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"Varys is Hoid" probably wouldn't even make the top 10 list of ASOIAF's most insane theories.
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Torrannor posted:Was about to post this, I'm a little afraid. He's unpredictable. I'm not just talking about just writing 5 new books (that's actually not that shocking), but I don't think it's hyperbole to say that nobody expected Kelsier to appear in Fortnite, yet that happened. So... well he's pals with a guy high up in epic
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A completely random thought: has anyone ever asked Brandon if gunpowder is even inventable on Roshar? Maybe there's just no sulfur on the entire planet, who knows. It'd explain why they're still stuck at swords and bows despite having 4500 years to figure out something better.
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CapnAndy posted:A completely random thought: has anyone ever asked Brandon if gunpowder is even inventable on Roshar? Maybe there's just no sulfur on the entire planet, who knows. It'd explain why they're still stuck at swords and bows despite having 4500 years to figure out something better. I remember something about there being a higher atmospheric oxygen content on Roshar so explosives are somewhat unpredictable / very dangerous. Dunno about gunpowder itself.
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CapnAndy posted:A completely random thought: has anyone ever asked Brandon if gunpowder is even inventable on Roshar? Maybe there's just no sulfur on the entire planet, who knows. It'd explain why they're still stuck at swords and bows despite having 4500 years to figure out something better. I'd say it's probably a combo of the higher-than-average oxygen content of the air making explosives very risky, the recurring apocalypses resetting technology levels to subsistence levels, and the general availability of magic as an alternative.
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ConfusedUs posted:I'd say it's probably a combo of the higher-than-average oxygen content of the air making explosives very risky, the recurring apocalypses resetting technology levels to subsistence levels, and the general availability of magic as an alternative.
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me whenever I see another Sanderson tease. 
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I mean they do get guns by the time of Sixth of the Dusk, just shardguns are much better than gunpowder. I haven't read any of the secret book excerpts but I saw that one spoiler about Aux calling himself a knight and I'm just going to blindly guess that he's a Seon who swore the oaths. because why not?
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Unless I'm missing something...... Sixth of Dusk != Roshar though? Like yea they also have gunns in MB Era 2 too but CapnAndy asked about gunpowder on Roshar specifically
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CapnAndy posted:I'm taking the latter two into account; with only 4500 years since they last got reset to the Stone Age and sources of magic power I'm not, for instance, too down on them for not figuring out steam power yet (though they should be right on the cusp of that, especially now that they've invented vehicles that could really use it). But gunpowder is much earlier and "kill those fuckers wearing armor and using swords" is a problem that their magic can't solve. There's probably an assumption that magical research always somewhat competes with "real" research in fantasy works. It should be noted that fabrial science can be done by anybody, no need to have inborn or acquired magical abilities. Which removes one of the main arguments against magical technology replacing "normal" technology (the underclass searching for ways to gain advantages over the magical elite). Also, Roshar is inherently more inhospitable than Earth. Earth's Stone Age ended (depending on your definition) between 4000 to 2000 BCE. Which means it took between about 5600 to 3600 years from the end of the Stone Age to the invention of the steam engine on Earth. Which fits with the 4500 years sine the end of the Final Desolation on Roshar, even apart from the Rosharans being thrown back deep into the stone age that they had to climb out first, on a harsher planet than Earth. And with magic science probably partly crowding out non-magical science to a degree. As for gunpowder, that may be a case of the base materials being harder to come by in Roshar's strange geology and ecology. Edit: And since somebody mentions guns, their invention on Scadrial (and Taldain!) shows that Brandon isn't afraid of more modern technology in the Cosmere, so it's probably deliberate for Roshar. Which means he likely also came up with a reason for why gunpowder hasn't been invented there, yet. Torrannor fucked around with this message at 19:34 on May 31, 2022 |
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Sixth isn't on roshar, it's on some random planet without a shard directly influencing it, if memory serves. Also scadrial had canning long before guns, and Harmony says something about being surprised they haven't developed radio or planes so sando has shown various places have their own nonearth relative technological timelines.
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Scadrial had gunpowder but TLR didn't like it and deliberately suppressed the tech.
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Torrannor posted:There's probably an assumption that magical research always somewhat competes with "real" research in fantasy works. It should be noted that fabrial science can be done by anybody, no need to have inborn or acquired magical abilities. Which removes one of the main arguments against magical technology replacing "normal" technology (the underclass searching for ways to gain advantages over the magical elite). Also, Roshar is inherently more inhospitable than Earth. Earth's Stone Age ended (depending on your definition) between 4000 to 2000 BCE. Which means it took between about 5600 to 3600 years from the end of the Stone Age to the invention of the steam engine on Earth. Which fits with the 4500 years sine the end of the Final Desolation on Roshar, even apart from the Rosharans being thrown back deep into the stone age that they had to climb out first, on a harsher planet than Earth. And with magic science probably partly crowding out non-magical science to a degree. As for gunpowder, my point is that it comes much sooner than steam, and "we need to kill dudes wearing armor and using swords and bows" is a problem they have no solution for, magical or otherwise. So I specifically weondered if the base materials just aren't present on Roshar or something, and if anyone's ever thought to ask Brandon about that. Tunicate posted:Scadrial had gunpowder but TLR didn't like it and deliberately suppressed the tech. Also "You people really should be on radio by now, I think I made it too easy on you" is one of my favorite Harmony lines.
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Hmm does Roshar have trees that are mostly made of cellulose? That could be a stumbling block on making certain things. Also the higher oxygen count makes any exothermic reaction a bit harder to manage.
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CapnAndy posted:
It's great because it shows what a doofus he is Oh no, your progression is slower than two other groups on this planet that have been fed tech advancements by Kelsier and Trell. Is it my expectations that are the problem? No, it is the children that are wrong.
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Shardblades also negate armor, and it may be that the only nitrogen fixing species are ones brought with humans. Plus the higher O2 content. Also, of course, it's a fictional fantasy world with wizards and magic knights.
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Fezz posted:How useful is guns against magical armor and people who can heal themselves instantly? It's definitely possible that there are no nitrogen-fixing plants outside of Shinovar, though.
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CapnAndy posted:Not very, but they had some 2000 years where that was not the problem, other random-rear end humans with Shardbearers being an extreme rarity was. Even now, it's not like the whole army is made of Shardbearers. They'd still be useful. They've also shown that even big rear end arrows from a ballista can pierce shardplate, it's not totally invulnerable. And what is his next secret? Everyone who backed it gets an additional book as well?
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Might be something with how he originally wanted fantasy knights in power armor, which became shardplate. Also guns seem like a pretty poo poo tool against the fused.
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Brutor Fartknocker posted:Might be something with how he originally wanted fantasy knights in power armor, which became shardplate. Also guns seem like a pretty poo poo tool against the fused. Yeah wasn't his whole schtick that Sanderson though huge swords were badass and wanted to write a whole story around it? You have guns in MB4, which makes sense there as the technology has progressed to align with the equivalent of the early 20th century, whereas Roshar is more, I don't know, middle ages? It doesn't really fit given the technology they're utilizing, which is fabrial specific anyway. If anything they'd invent fabrial specific guns utilizing stormlight. e: added spoiler tags just in case.
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Sab669 posted:Unless I'm missing something...... Sixth of Dusk != Roshar though? Sixth is on the planet First of the Sun, which is somewhat touched by Autonomy but not necessarily his shardworld, as it was invested before Adonalsium's shattering. But at the time of the book is very late in both Scadrial's and Roshar's history. To the point where the both of their societies are competing over First, and at which point in the timeline they have guns and shardguns and real heavy magic nonsense. Which comes from one of the short stories floating around. M_Gargantua fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Mar 29, 2022 |
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Tunicate posted:It's great because it shows what a doofus he is I don't read the line that way at all. I guess comparison to the Set and the Southern Scadrians might be part of it, but he all but explicitly puts the blame on himself for making things too easy after the Catacendre.
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Louisgod posted:Yeah wasn't his whole schtick that Sanderson though huge swords were badass and wanted to write a whole story around it? You have guns in MB4, which makes sense there as the technology has progressed to align with the equivalent of the early 20th century, whereas Roshar is more, I don't know, middle ages? It doesn't really fit given the technology they're utilizing, which is fabrial specific anyway. If anything they'd invent fabrial specific guns utilizing stormlight. Wanting huge swords was a lot of it I think. Just wanted to say that while guns might not be super effective against Shardplate, it's not like humanity hasn't had to deal with armor before. If the rock you're throwing doesn't do anything, just throw a bigger rock.
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Anshu posted:I don't read the line that way at all. I guess comparison to the Set and the Southern Scadrians might be part of it, but he all but explicitly puts the blame on himself for making things too easy after the Catacendre. It's a combination of factors but the whole conversation adds up to Harmony constantly has things go not-as-planned, and demonstrably isn't omniscient, but still acts as if he IS.
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Anshu posted:I don't read the line that way at all. I guess comparison to the Set and the Southern Scadrians might be part of it, but he all but explicitly puts the blame on himself for making things too easy after the Catacendre.
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Tunicate posted:It's a combination of factors but the whole conversation adds up to Harmony constantly has things go not-as-planned, and demonstrably isn't omniscient, but still acts as if he IS. How so? I don't understand that charge, how is he acting as if he were omniscient? What should he be doing differently? Also, he very clearly isn't omniscient, but he's still a shardholder. That means he does have limited future sight. This fact shouldn't be overlooked.
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Torrannor posted:How so? I don't understand that charge, how is he acting as if he were omniscient? What should he be doing differently? Among other things, how he tells Wax that everything was part of his plan, and that Wax can't be upset with him because Harmony knows that this was the best possible timeline thanks to his ability to see the future. This is after the entire problem with Lessie was caused by Harmony eschewing even the most basic empathy when making his plans, in favor of just trying to see the future. Which lead him to the conclusion that making her fake her own gruesome death at the hands of the person she loves most in the world couldn't possibly backfire. To extend to Stormlight I don't think Honor's prohibition on future sight is necessarily just an ideology or odium thing, I think reliance upon future sight consistently works out poorly because it gives you false certainty
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