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Daduzi
Nov 22, 2005

You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun.

Tomn posted:

:stare: Are you loving serious? What a goddamn manbaby. Yes I’m definitely going to conduct international diplomacy on the basis that one person was mean to me on social media.

Just had a PTSD flashback to the Trump administration.

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GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

Older women are a core demographic of Putin supporters so it's not astonishing to see them parroting his propaganda, especially if their family is directly connected to the Russian state through their son being a staff sergeant in the army (probably VDV given that he died early near Kiev).

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Aertuun posted:

One good gas thread is from Ed Conway, who does excellent analysis of all sorts of complex issues. Written on 16th Feb regarding gas and energy gaps in Germany. The summary is that, in the event of a cut-off, the UK has significant spare capacity in terms of LNG ports. AND, crucially, it has pipelines for gas to/from Europe. This is unaffected by Brexit, and the politics are (for once) straightforward.
It's not just import capacity in the UK, though. It's liquifaction capacity in the exporting countries (Qatar, US, Algeria etc). And it's not like Europe is the only consumer of LNG. South Korea and Japan both consume a great deal, and it's the same ships taking same gas from the same gasfields. LNG is going to be available at some price but to get it you might have to get into a bidding war with other consumers, and South Korea and Japan are both rich places just as capable of paying top dollar as Europe is.

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


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Rapulum_Dei posted:

Northern Ireland’s contribution to world culture.

That and Veda.

Don’t forget Titanic. She was built in Belfast.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

alex314 posted:

Dude is known to send assasins after people that make fun of him. Once in a while you could see public apologies from journalists in Russia that were warned to do so "or else". Ramzan is incredibly petty.
If only he know how stupid he looks in his Prada boots lol.

Are they saying this this because that's what russia has been doing since 2014?

kemikalkadet
Sep 16, 2012

:woof:

mobby_6kl posted:

If only he know how stupid he looks in his Prada boots lol.

Are they saying this this because that's what russia has been doing since 2014?

It's probably based solely on this video that's been going around lol
https://twitter.com/roflchatgroup/status/1508158386730328065

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
Interesting thread:

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508398726099914756

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508743803729027077

I didn't know that (apparently) 66% of Russian homes in rural areas had no running water. Ukraine is richer even if you include Moscow and St Petersburg, which massively skew the Russian stats; without them it's far richer. And many of the conscripts come from these dirt-poor regions.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1509129915827949569

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Zephro posted:

Interesting thread:

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508398726099914756

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508743803729027077

I didn't know that (apparently) 66% of Russian homes in rural areas had no running water. Ukraine is richer even if you include Moscow and St Petersburg, which massively skew the Russian stats; without them it's far richer. And many of the conscripts come from these dirt-poor regions.

Yeah we talked about this yesterday, it seems like BS. Russia is a broke shithole but I doubt they're all massively impressed by Ukrainian infrastructure, this is a major road between two cities for example: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.840...!7i13312!8i6656

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012

lilljonas posted:

It's not very far from Americans claiming that Saddam had to be toppled because he "threatened our freedoms". Propaganda is a bitch and people are easily pursuaded to think irrational things, especially under stress and grief.

This is honestly the first thing that popped into my mind - memories of people talking about how we needed to be in Iraq in order to "protect our way of life," and "protect our freedoms" and all the other classics.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
Russia blinking on ruble payments for now.

https://twitter.com/PriapusIQ/status/1509124442324090887
https://twitter.com/PriapusIQ/status/1509124443389501443

https://twitter.com/Lars_Feld/status/1509120196467957766

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

ZombieLenin posted:

Don’t forget Titanic. She was built in Belfast.

Also Game of Thrones, can't go 5 steps in Belfast without seeing something Titanic or Game of Thrones related! Funny how the only things we're known for are hyped up stuff that turn into unmitigated disasters. The Titanic museum is pretty cool though.

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

plogo posted:

Russia blinking on ruble payments for now.

Probably more like an actual economist pointing out to Putin that she managed to defeat the Western assault on the Rubel and he should not destroy her work.

https://twitter.com/jakluge/status/1508744632146006019

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Who could've predicted that the "Peace/Ceasefire Agreement:" was, as usual, a farce and a bait-and-switch.

Man Plan Canal
Jul 11, 2000

Listen to the madman
Is there a particular reason to believe that Ruble exchange rate chart? There is no open market for Rubles anymore. The exchange rate is what the government makes it. Moreover, because the government has legally compelled Russian companies to turn over foreign currency, they also compel businesses to accept the government exchange rate. So how is this evidence of Russia surviving anything?

It's a little like saying "The Russian stock market hasn't even tanked" when it's barely been open and most people can't legally sell anything right now.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Man Plan Canal posted:

Is there a particular reason to believe that Ruble exchange rate chart?

Nope, and the phrase "will be widely celebrated" makes it sound like he has some weird agenda, even though he seems to agree in the replies that it's cooked data.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

GaussianCopula posted:

Probably more like an actual economist pointing out to Putin that she managed to defeat the Western assault on the Rubel and he should not destroy her work.

https://twitter.com/jakluge/status/1508744632146006019
cue "look"

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

GaussianCopula posted:

Probably more like an actual economist pointing out to Putin that she managed to defeat the Western assault on the Rubel and he should not destroy her work.

Yeah, by making the ruble non-convertible.

:rubby:

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

GaussianCopula posted:

Older women are a core demographic of Putin supporters so it's not astonishing to see them parroting his propaganda, especially if their family is directly connected to the Russian state through their son being a staff sergeant in the army (probably VDV given that he died early near Kiev).

We will see how long the propaganda holds out against the reality of dead sons, though even an officer of the Mothers of Soldiers organization is less confident than in the past
https://twitter.com/DarkaHirna/status/1508727580287016963?t=M6L2SiXwWlVYoGk_ozhxpw&s=19

This is sourced from an interview with the woman - https://youtu.be/vq7bAYFi-jE

In Russian with English subtitles. I haven't finished it but it seems like a good primary source for a Russian cultural view of the military/government from the POV of a woman who dedicated her life to holding them accountable. Her Wikipedia resume is pretty astonishing.

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


[/quote]

mobby_6kl posted:

Yeah we talked about this yesterday, it seems like BS. Russia is a broke shithole but I doubt they're all massively impressed by Ukrainian infrastructure, this is a major road between two cities for example: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.840...!7i13312!8i6656

Hey, that looks like every major road in Indiana, and that’s in the United States.

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010

GaussianCopula posted:

Probably more like an actual economist pointing out to Putin that she managed to defeat the Western assault on the Rubel and he should not destroy her work.

https://twitter.com/jakluge/status/1508744632146006019

It'd be cruel to her, but the West should play her up as a possible successor candidate to Putin.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Zephro posted:

Interesting thread:

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508398726099914756

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508743803729027077

I didn't know that (apparently) 66% of Russian homes in rural areas had no running water. Ukraine is richer even if you include Moscow and St Petersburg, which massively skew the Russian stats; without them it's far richer. And many of the conscripts come from these dirt-poor regions.

He is intentionally/unintentionally misrepresenting the sources. For example, the Rosstat statistic talks about sewage access/solutions only, not running water access. And the claim about seeing asphalt for the first time is just someone mentioning that all Ukrainian villages have paved roads.

There is some good points in there about the average Ukrainian and Russian living in very, very similar economic conditions, despite Russia's massive advantage in GDP/capita.

you feelin fucky
May 23, 2009

Zephro posted:

Interesting thread:

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508398726099914756

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508743803729027077

I didn't know that (apparently) 66% of Russian homes in rural areas had no running water. Ukraine is richer even if you include Moscow and St Petersburg, which massively skew the Russian stats; without them it's far richer. And many of the conscripts come from these dirt-poor regions.

Drinking from a well and making GBS threads in an outhouse works perfectly fine in a sparsely populated area. My Finnish grandmother insisted on doing so until her death 5 years ago. Local water company offered to hook her up for 35k, which was about half the value of her house.

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

Man Plan Canal posted:

Is there a particular reason to believe that Ruble exchange rate chart? There is no open market for Rubles anymore. The exchange rate is what the government makes it. Moreover, because the government has legally compelled Russian companies to turn over foreign currency, they also compel businesses to accept the government exchange rate. So how is this evidence of Russia surviving anything?

It's a little like saying "The Russian stock market hasn't even tanked" when it's barely been open and most people can't legally sell anything right now.

Not at all, obviously no sane nation or trader outside of Russia wants to buy Rubel at the moment because it's just beyond risky. It has recently demonstrated extreme inflation in the face of the sanctions and further sanctions will gently caress it up more.

Russia has been twisting as many arms as they can find to buy Rubel domestically and abroad, they have confiscated foreign currency from citizens, prevented them from exchanging Rubel, and they're demanding international payments in Rubel so that foreign nations or traders must first buy Rubel. They're doing this because they're desperate, not because it's fun.

It might be fun to them too but that's beside the point.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

you feelin fucky posted:

Drinking from a well and making GBS threads in an outhouse works perfectly fine in a sparsely populated area. My Finnish grandmother insisted on doing so until her death 5 years ago. Local water company offered to hook her up for 35k, which was about half the value of her house.

5.8% of your population should not be making GBS threads in outhouses in the TYOOL 2022 in a country as rich as Russia. It doesn't seem right

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




GaussianCopula posted:

Probably more like an actual economist pointing out to Putin that she managed to defeat the Western assault on the Rubel and he should not destroy her work.

https://twitter.com/jakluge/status/1508744632146006019

Important reply to this tweet:

https://twitter.com/jakluge/status/1508749539599175683

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009

Xachariah posted:

Also Game of Thrones, can't go 5 steps in Belfast without seeing something Titanic or Game of Thrones related! Funny how the only things we're known for are hyped up stuff that turn into unmitigated disasters. The Titanic museum is pretty cool though.

2 things that didn’t end well :razz:

GABA ghoul posted:

5.8% of your population should not be making GBS threads in outhouses in the TYOOL 2022 in a country as rich as Russia. It doesn't seem right

It might not mean that; mains water but stand alone septic tanks are common enough in other countries. Maybe?

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Can someone who is better at econ than me explain this a bit more?
https://twitter.com/maria_shagina/status/1509150616404250628?s=20&t=YHDBxBrzRyNYvZOtldH8YA

quote:

"Another signed document concerns the so-called parallel imports. The purpose of the mechanism is to satisfy the demand for goods containing the results of intellectual activity. Until now, they could not be sold on the territory of our country without the permission of the copyright holder," he said, opening a meeting of the Presidium of the Government Commission on Improving the Stability of the Russian Economy in the Conditions of Sanctions.

Mishustin recalled that a law was recently adopted giving the Cabinet the right to determine lists of products "in respect of which the de facto international principle of exhaustion of trademark rights is established." "The list of products that can be imported into the Russian Federation under such a mechanism will be approved by the Ministry of Industry and Trade on the proposals of industry departments," the prime minister added.

According to him, "such an approach will make it possible to guarantee the supply of goods to Russia, including despite the unfriendly actions of foreign politicians."

This is already signed by Putin btw. It sounds like it essentially allows for legalized smuggling of goods from companies that no longer officially operate in Russia, correct?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




GABA ghoul posted:

5.8% of your population should not be making GBS threads in outhouses in the TYOOL 2022 in a country as rich as Russia. It doesn't seem right

I’m with the outhouse gang here, it’s a perfectly normal way to take a poo poo if you live in the neck of the woods. In a Russia where wealth is distributed equally, plenty of people would still poo poo in outhouses.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

GABA ghoul posted:

5.8% of your population should not be making GBS threads in outhouses in the TYOOL 2022 in a country as rich as Russia. It doesn't seem right

That's kind of what we're circling back to, Russia is not a rich country. It's a poor country with a) big oil and gas reserves and b) a central government that funnels a lot of wealth into its two major cities. Ukraine is in fact better off because they've decentralized quite a bit over the last decade so more local taxation is being used to fund local projects.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Rapulum_Dei posted:

It might not mean that; mains water but stand alone septic tanks are common enough in other countries. Maybe?

No, there are separate categories for septic tanks(individual sewage solution) and even for ditches with piping. The 5.8% is just ditches that you poo poo into.

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

Rapulum_Dei posted:

2 things that didn’t end well :razz:

There's DeLorean too in that list of Best of Belfast.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

How is the Russian internal media reacting to news of a potential agreement with Ukraine, you may ask
https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/1509148571655970817?s=20&t=YHDBxBrzRyNYvZOtldH8YA
https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/1509148576085127172?s=20&t=YHDBxBrzRyNYvZOtldH8YA
Doesn't look like they want to climb down any time soon. And seeing as Russian media is under the complete dictation of the government at this point I think this should be a pretty clear signal.

This could also be a signal
https://twitter.com/mrsorokaa/status/1509151735310426112?s=20&t=YHDBxBrzRyNYvZOtldH8YA

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
I had a co-worker who had a grandmother who refused to have a toilet installed in her house even though it had running water from an electric well. She grew up in the early 20th century, and just thought the idea of pooping in your house was gross. "That's something you do outside." I'm sure plenty of people who use water think toilet paper is gross. I guess this is just to say that toilets aren't a sign of wealth.

Well-maintained roads, though, are a reasonable proxy for national wealth. And yes, plenty of states in the US have bad main roads.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




KitConstantine posted:

Can someone who is better at econ than me explain this a bit more?
https://twitter.com/maria_shagina/status/1509150616404250628?s=20&t=YHDBxBrzRyNYvZOtldH8YA

This is already signed by Putin btw. It sounds like it essentially allows for legalized smuggling of goods from companies that no longer officially operate in Russia, correct?

You understand it correctly. Parallel imports mean you can “import” Coca-Cola even if it doesn’t sell drinks to the country, i.e., “unofficially”. This involves significant risks for counterfeit goods, B-stock defective stuff, etcetera.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

cinci zoo sniper posted:

You understand it correctly. Parallel imports mean you can “import” Coca-Cola even if it doesn’t sell drinks to the country, i.e., “unofficially”. This involves significant risks for counterfeit goods, B-stock defective stuff, etcetera.

So am I to assume that bootleg denim is going back in style, a la the 1980s?

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Ynglaur posted:

I had a co-worker who had a grandmother who refused to have a toilet installed in her house even though it had running water from an electric well. She grew up in the early 20th century, and just thought the idea of pooping in your house was gross. "That's something you do outside." I'm sure plenty of people who use water think toilet paper is gross. I guess this is just to say that toilets aren't a sign of wealth.

Well-maintained roads, though, are a reasonable proxy for national wealth. And yes, plenty of states in the US have bad main roads.

I was watching Belfast a few weeks ago and a bunch of scenes there are taking place in an outhouse in the back of the rowhouse, but it was a normal toilet with plumbing like you’d expect inside a house. Maybe the „no poop in the house” thing was more common in the first half of the XX century.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

US has a new official estimate of Russians KIA
https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1509152791083864070?s=20&t=NcvPwApAYouHiDgFFa893g
:eyepop:

And yes, I see the source but since they're reporting on an interview a US Defense official gave and it's a direct quote I'm not too concerned with bias

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib
I don't think too many Russians paid for their videogames in the first place, but with legalised piracy parallel imports now, just lol. The Black Sea is the new Carribean.

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Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1509151957247832073

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