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Cranappleberry posted:love how in Picard, after trapping Data in a mind prison for longer than O'brien, instead of letting him out they kill him in order to give Picard immortality and perfect health. lol
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Where does the Dominion War get mentioned? It's on the monitors for Seven's presidential briefing a couple episodes ago, when she's looking up Rios. O'Brien is the general leading that war, too. I think those screens also had casualty figures for the ongoing rebellions and wars which were all kinda crazy high.
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Mar 31, 2022 03:14
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Cranappleberry posted:love how in Picard, after trapping Data in a mind prison for longer than O'brien, instead of letting him out they kill him in order to give Picard immortality and perfect health. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_literacy
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Mar 31, 2022 03:16
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Lol Data literally spells out why he wants to die in the scene, it's amazing
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Mar 31, 2022 03:25
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Data doesn't control the writers of the show... OR DOES HE
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Mar 31, 2022 03:28
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Y'all could use some literacy of your own if you think "they" referred to characters in the show instead of the writers of the show lol
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Mar 31, 2022 03:30
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I was gonna say, haha
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Mar 31, 2022 03:31
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CPColin posted:I was gonna say, haha At first I thought they were joking and then I realized they were serious and owned themselves in the process
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Mar 31, 2022 03:32
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Cranappleberry posted:Y'all could use some literacy of your own if you think "they" referred to characters in the show instead of the writers of the show lol Nice pirouette.
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Mar 31, 2022 03:33
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nine-gear crow posted:Nice pirouette. Are you serious right now? You misinterpreted my post and made an rear end of yourself and now you gonna try and turn it back on me lol
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Mar 31, 2022 03:34
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TVIV posters who think TV is real are one of the last remaining treats of SA 
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"Hey err I am sorry I got your post wrong and also tried to get in an own that actually owned me but we can return to the discussion" "I accept your apology. It's cool. Everyone makes mistakes." But keep digging that hole, I guess.
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Mar 31, 2022 03:38
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Cranappleberry posted:"Hey err I am sorry I got your post wrong and also tried to get in an own that actually owned me but we can return to the discussion" At this point probably 25% of this thread is someone misinterpreting someone else's post and getting really upset about it.
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Mar 31, 2022 03:44
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That Aenar guy is cool as gently caress
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Mar 31, 2022 03:46
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Super Deuce posted:At this point probably 25% of this thread is someone misinterpreting someone else's post and getting really upset about it. Interesting dynamic where instead of asking for clarification of something perhaps nebulous (though I thought it was clear the writers controlled the plot/the actions of the characters ultimately) the first action is to attack based on the worst assumption.
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Mar 31, 2022 03:54
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Charity Porno posted:I've had a theory for a long time that the Mirror Universe has some form of intelligence behind it because just from a logical standpoint it makes no sense that the same people are alive in both universes in almost every circumstance. Attrition and chaos alone should prevent that. Yet every time our heroes enter, it's mirrored just like their ship/station despite divergences hundreds of years back making that unlikely. The MU only exists when the characters enter it.
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Mar 31, 2022 04:03
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xerxus posted:https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1509310418736586759?s=20&t=08k49UrmpVRAzIEeWY-QVA For some reason the engineering sets seem to be the consistently hardest locales the post-Enterprise Trek production designers struggle to get right. The only good one I've seen so far has been the one on the Cerritos with its V-shaped warp core in the middle of the little deflector dish dongle hull. The SNW and Prodigy ones both have that same case of "this is just a particle accelerator we rented out for the day" that Into Darkness did, where they literally rented out a particle accelerator and slapped a bunch of Starfleet stickers on everything.
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Mar 31, 2022 04:06
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If they ever need to create another evil-AI run by starfleet, 'Watchtower' would be a cool code name for it. "Watchtower? It's gone rogue" Anyone got any hollywood connections for me??
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nine-gear crow posted:For some reason the engineering sets seem to be the consistently hardest locales the post-Enterprise Trek production designers struggle to get right. The only good one I've seen so far has been the one on the Cerritos with its V-shaped warp core in the middle of the little deflector dish dongle hull. The SNW and Prodigy ones both have that same case of "this is just a particle accelerator we rented out for the day" that Into Darkness did, where they literally rented out a particle accelerator and slapped a bunch of Starfleet stickers on everything. there’s an engineering display on the Stargazer that looked neat if they ever build a set based on that, but yeah pretty much nothing since the NX set has felt elegant to me live action-wise; giving that a cramped submarine reactor aesthetic worked well I thought
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Mar 31, 2022 04:11
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Cranappleberry posted:Interesting dynamic where instead of asking for clarification of something perhaps nebulous (though I thought it was clear the writers controlled the plot/the actions of the characters ultimately) the first action is to attack based on the worst assumption. Asking to clarify something nebulous is how you get a Nagilum
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Mar 31, 2022 04:15
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I can at least see what they're going for with the SNW engineering set, looks like what you'd get if you took out the back wall of the TOS set and exposed the machinery chamber behind it for an "open plan" setting (and then added greebles everywhere because it's 2022.) Maybe everyone in engineering in SNW gets radiation poisoning and they have to put the wall in. It's miles better than the Short Treks version, but not as good as if they had just adapted the TMP engineering set instead, which I was almost expecting since they've kinda redesigned the whole ship to feel more like the refit in general.
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CPColin posted:Asking to clarify something nebulous is how you get a Nagilum 
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Crusader posted:there’s an engineering display on the Stargazer that looked neat if they ever build a set based on that, but yeah pretty much nothing since the NX set has felt elegant to me live action-wise; giving that a cramped submarine reactor aesthetic worked well I thought The NX-01 engineering set seemed like it was something just outside the reach of the plausible, like a lot of the Earth Starfleet visual language did, at least at the start of the show. I love how the Enterprise warp core was laid horizontal like the implied TOS warp core and the TMP-era one and looked like a giant ship boiler that ran on space magic bullshit instead of steam and that like half of Connor Trineer's scenes on the show were him just jungle gym'ing his way over, under or around it and trying not to crash into the camera. I'd say I'd want to see a modern Trek take on the ENT sets, but I'm kind of terrified they'd gently caress them up.
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Cranappleberry posted:love how in Picard, after trapping Data in a mind prison for longer than O'brien, instead of letting him out they kill him in order to give Picard immortality and perfect health. Spiner didn't want to play Data anymore, so Data died.
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Mar 31, 2022 04:24
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The greebles were ... different in TOS
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Cojawfee posted:Spiner didn't want to play Data anymore, so Data died. Just imagine if the producers and writers could just make new characters in the first place
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Mar 31, 2022 04:29
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Crusader posted:there’s an engineering display on the Stargazer that looked neat if they ever build a set based on that, but yeah pretty much nothing since the NX set has felt elegant to me live action-wise; giving that a cramped submarine reactor aesthetic worked well I thought IMO TNG and Enterprise are outliers when it comes to good modern engineering sets, and honestly TNG’s (as much as I love it) starts to feel a bit janky and tiny if you really scrutinize it. Voyager’s looked super cheap (except for the upper level, which is a neat idea expanding on what TNG did), and DS9’s was clearly a budgetary afterthought. The Enterprise-E’s was really only set up to be a big action set for First Contact and suffers because of it. Engineering sets are hard, so I kinda give Disco a pass for not really even attempting it.
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Cojawfee posted:Spiner didn't want to play Data anymore, so Data died. My precious android boy dreaming of electric sheep in ~*~heaven~*~ The Bloop posted:The greebles were ... different in TOS whoa. those are some nice interlocking plastic gear pipe things. Very, er, space.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:IMO TNG and Enterprise are outliers when it comes to good modern engineering sets, and honestly TNG’s (as much as I love it) starts to feel a bit janky and tiny if you really scrutinize it. Voyager’s looked super cheap (except for the upper level, which is a neat idea expanding on what TNG did), and DS9’s was clearly a budgetary afterthought. The Enterprise-E’s was really only set up to be a big action set for First Contact and suffers because of it. I love that Star Trek: Elite Force II lets you visit the E-E's engineering section for like two minutes, and it plays it completely straight to how it appears in First Contact/Insurrection. Just this giant cavernous pit with a two-storie warp core dominating the room. It's weirdly oppressive to see and move around in in three dimensions.
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Charity Porno posted:I've had a theory for a long time that the Mirror Universe has some form of intelligence behind it because just from a logical standpoint it makes no sense that the same people are alive in both universes in almost every circumstance. Attrition and chaos alone should prevent that. Yet every time our heroes enter, it's mirrored just like their ship/station despite divergences hundreds of years back making that unlikely. The DS9 mirror episodes were pretty bad, but the episode where Nog continually points out how stupid the premise is was good
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Nichael posted:The DS9 mirror episodes were pretty bad, but the episode where Nog continually points out how stupid the premise is was good
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FlamingLiberal posted:Did you mean Rom? In the last DS9 mirror episode he takes the piss out of the whole concept when they are on Mirror Brunt’s ship is that the one with the scene where Rom and Quark carry around an invisible cloaking device? God what a great gag
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Mar 31, 2022 05:09
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Cranappleberry posted:Y'all could use some literacy of your own if you think "they" referred to characters in the show instead of the writers of the show lol Hahaha ok pal Technowolf posted:The MU only exists when the characters enter it. That doesn't work though because people just show up in the DS9 episodes from there
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Senor Tron posted:There have been people who have spoken as many languages as that: The problem with trying to write characters who are geniuses is that they end up being only as smart as the writers themselves. Magic Mango posted:It’s a fine explanation, but they shouldn’t have had the punk guy gag because it begs the question of why Spock went back but Picard didn’t, if the divergence happens prior to TOS. Like Worf's comment in Trials and Tribble-ations this should just be taken fun gag that doesn't need to be examined under a microscope. Fuckin' nerds. bltzn fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Mar 31, 2022 |
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Wild idea for a few people in this thread to consider: no "universe" exists without characters entering it :epicgritty: :mindblown:
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Charity Porno posted:Hahaha ok pal keep on doubling down on your mistake instead of, you know, taking my word for it since I am the only guy who knows what I think and you couldn't glean something simple from context.
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Really we should just assume characters don't have "motivations" because writers just write them so they aren't realCranappleberry posted:keep on doubling down on your mistake instead of, you know, taking my word for it since I am the only guy who knows what I think and you couldn't glean something simple from context. 
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Charity Porno posted:Really we should just assume characters don't have "motivations" because writers just write them so they aren't real yes keep going
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Charity Porno posted:Really we should just assume characters don't have "motivations" because writers just write them so they aren't real Dude. I was referring to the writers, not the characters. How are you not getting this?
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Cranappleberry posted:Dude. I was referring to the writers, not the characters. How are you not getting this? Because you used an ambiguous "they" and most people would assume you meant the people who did the referred act in the story we are discussing, not the writers. "They" didn't kill Data to preserve Picard, the characters in the story did. The writers wrote a story.
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